I don't want shaun rogers. He's got talent, but he's not a great player. he has struggled with weight problems, takes entire games to seasons off, and is not the player he once was.I would much rather go with Mount Cody in the draft.

 

We'lll not likely draft Cody IMHO as Parcells hates overweight players. Dan Williams seems our most likely candidate to me. Shaun Rogers could be a decent pickup if Parcells and Sparano believe they can motivate the guy to resurrect his career and play 110% every down, every game.

 

See, everyone keeps saying that Mount Cody is overweight, or has weight problems, or what have you. But here's the cold hard fact of the matter. Terrence Cody played 2 years at Alabama under Nick Saban, one of the strictest disciplinarians in all of sports, and in those 2 years there was never a time when Cody did not make the weight that Saban set for him. The kid has talent, heart, and prototypical size for a NT. The weight would not be an issue if he landed in Miami.

 

Cody made weight but its not a weight the Phins FO will accept....They will likely want him at 325-330 and thats not a weight he has seen in a LONG LONG time. I read Rogers played in the neighborhood of 900 snaps which is ridiculous.... and has been on losing teams EVERYWHERE he went... Give the guy a breather and win a few games and see if his attitude changes

 

Rogers takes plays off but he is seeing dramatically more snaps than other guys his size. In 2008 he was #2 among DTs in snaps and had 200 more than any guys his size... Jason Ferguson had less than half snaps as our starter the same year.

 

If Cody was meeting weight goals for Saban they must have been the equivalent of a Special Olympics THANKS FOR TRYING kinda goal. Rogers is huge but he doesn't have underboob sticking out under his pads.For the record I would love they pick up Rogers but I think he is too big for them as well.

 

Alot of people are forgetting about Jammal Williams from SD, the guy didn't play last year due to an injury, but it could be a low cost option for a year...if healthy and can pass a physical...

 

I'd love to get Rogers here too. I'd watch Cleveland games just to see him wreck stuff, block kicks, move the quarterback out of the pocket. Sure he took plays off, but as others have said, he was in the whole game.

 

Maybe we can talk him into taking the plays off that Soliai will play.

 

That taking plays off idea is hilarious really. I mean it's pretty obvious he can play 50% of snaps. That's all I ask.

Just in case one guys get injured a third backup DT should probably be able to play the nose if necessary. I'm guessing we could acquire him for a third round pick.

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That doesn't look too bad. Besides I bet Parcells busts Ireland's nuts again to get him a precious draft pick again. Trade down from the early first to the later first would be a good idea.

 

There seems to be a misconception here about Terrence Cody. Terrence Cody is a large man, hence the nickname Mount Cody. He dropped 70lbs his first year at Alabama but still has the massive tree trunk legs of a 420lb man. However he's not "out of shape." First of all, he anchored the DLine of the #1 National Champion defense and is the reason Rolando McClain looked so good. He's strong at the point of attack, commands 2-3 blockers on every play and has quick feet. You can go back and look at interviews from Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Nick Saban, Tommy Tubberville, Houston Nutt, etc that praise Cody. I remember a press conference in which Urban Meyer said, and I quote, "I've never seen a man that size, move that way." So yeah, there's more to Mount Cody than "ROFL underboobz!!!1"

 

A prototypical Nose Tackle is about 6'2" and 320+ lbs; tell me that's not a textbook description of a guy with a weight problem.

I'm not concerned about anything regarding Rogers, except that he might end up somewhere else.

You get props just for the username. :chuckle:

 

Rogers has a reputation for free lancing which would not go over well with this staff.

 

I believe he's finalizing a deal in Denver today.

 

What, exactly, is the misconception?

By that definition, is there anyone in the NFL or college who is actually out of shape?

Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a man that size move that way either. When's the last time you saw a slower 40 yard dash than the 5.75 Cody dropped at the combine?

 

Okay, if you're really gonna bring up 40 yard dash speeds when evaluating a NT then I have no reason to even try to talk sense into you.

 

Ah yeah, it was clearly an inappropriate avenue to comment on given you directly referenced how he moved.

While we're at it, how about his short shuttle and all that?

 

You know very well it's the short shuttle, the broad jump, and the vertical that would be most applicable though. The 40 is worth noting but it's largely irrelevant.

 

Let me ask you then how's his short shuttle looking?

 

Rodgers is a proven Probowl caliber NT! He chases Qbs and Rbs all over the field and blocks multiple kicks a year. Passing on him for a Thigpen trade would be criminal! Yes Holmgrem likes Thigpen. Cody might be great or he might be a flop! With Rodgers we know he is great he is a 3 time Probowler and that speaks volumes for a guy who spent his career as a Brown and a Lion.

 

Invisible. I'm not sure that he ran it. His vertical and his broad jump are........

 

When QB's start taking 40 yard drops, then we can worry about a NT 40 time

 

That's kind of curious, no? Cody, with professional advice, in a position where he needed to show something positive decides not to display his theoretical strong point? And instead decides to rip off a horrendous 40?

The only way what Urban Meyer said was truthful was with the caveat he's never seen someone that huge try to move in general outside of like one of those shows where they knock out a wall of persons house and call a special veterinary ambulance.

 

Just wanted to point out that Mount Cody weighed in at 349 today at Alabama's pro-day. 21 lbs lighter than the Senior Bowl and 6 lbs lighter than the combine. The guy likes to eat but he doesn't have weight problems. He stays disciplined when it counts.

 

He's 14lbs away from where he needs to be. Some major weight clauses and he should be retimed for the shuttle and what not so that Disgustipate and I can rip into the numbers.

 

Just a heads up, a lot of that weight he lost may well be muscle mass. He is listed at benching only 21 reps at his pro day.

That is awful for a NT, especially someone that is 350+.

 

Here's the thing- When it counts shouldn't just have been when he is in line to get paid, it should have been when he played at Alabama.

When was the last time Cody was under 350? Middle school?

 

Another thing too, why is his agent saying his benched 225 32 times, when he only did it 21.....like come on really?!?!?!

 

Cody has Shaun Rogers written all over him IMO.

I don't like Cody at all.
He's a blob.
I know measureables don't mean everything but 22 reps at 225 for a NT that weighs as much as a house? **** flapping in the breeze at the combine. Sorry, he was lazy and content with his weight and strength problem in college where he knew he had to prove himself to get to the next level. Do you really think he'll be motivated to work out and lose weight after he signs for 20 million dollars guaranteed?

Cody's bust chances are HUGE IMO.

 

Like to know your definition of "when it counts".

Clearly his only motivation to get in shape was for draft status.
So whatever team drafts him can count on him to crash diet the year before his contract will expire? Rest of the time he'll just hope that sheer poundage will make him a great NFL NT?