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Here is what happened with Orton

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by padre31, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Mike Kils is the Broncos main blogger and was on top of the situation, as Darlington mentioned in a different article, Orton felt his play in 2010 was good enough that he should not have to take a reduced contract from the Broncos or the Dolphins, the two teams apparently had the trade worked out, Orton balked.

    Cannot blame Ireland for that if it is how things played out, and at this point in time Moore would have been the best of what was left of a depleted and thin FA Qb class this offseason.

    Still think Young should have been on the menu, but they passed and that will just have to play out.
     
  2. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I find that hard to believe personally. Unless the Broncos are complete idiots for letting him practice on a trade that was agreed to by the two teams.
     
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  3. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    so that means we were ready to pay a 2nd rounder......ouch
     
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  4. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, as soon as he hit the practice field that deal was dead beforehand P13, Elway and Irish had a tentative deal, Orton balked at working for less, the Broncos had no real options afterwards and paid him 1.5 millie today.

    INOW, the only reason he practiced is he was not leaving Denver via a trade in the first place, and they all knew it.
     
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  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, not from what I've heard, Elway did an interview on the Broncos flagship station and flat out denied that they wanted a #2 for him, which makes a kind of sense as that was not the problem, Orton's contract number was the problem.
     
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    I'm glad to see Young was never an option. Winning record? Maybe Tenn was just a complete team & don't give Young the credit for it. I didn't like his attitude and we and trying to develop a winning attitude. Nuff said there. If Tony & Jeff are to win or keep their jobs, it'll be w/o distractions and undisciplined players. We aren't in a position to take a chance w/players like that at this point.
     
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  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    IDK, for me the talent makes him worth the risk, and with the #3 Qb being an active roster spot on gamedays now, Young would have had situation value even if not starting.
     
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  8. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    your thoughts on matt moore ?
     
  9. padre31

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    BTW, rumor is the deal is not "dead" yet, it is mostly dead, which is different from completely dead.
     
  10. B.Sebo

    B.Sebo TV Mastermind Club Member

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    This report doesn't pass the smell test. Likely, this is the Denver organization trying to save a little face on the mishandling of this situation on their end, so they leaked this info to a beat writer and he sent it on out. It's the world we live in.

    I will echo what others have said, bravo to Ireland for sticking to his guns.
     
  11. Styla

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    http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football/
     
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  12. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    I disagree with the emphasized part. The only way Sparano and maybe Ireland keep their jobs is by making bold moves that pay off. They've cowered in their shell for 2 years and have gone 14-18 as a result. Playing it safe as they have over the last two years will get them a trip to the unemployment line. They need a Michael Vick type move.

    But at least the next head coach has that 2nd or 3rd round pick in the bag to trade up for Andrew Luck or Matt Barkley.
     
  13. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Just like mostly pregnant is different from completely pregnant, I assume?
     
  14. padre31

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    Well, it ain't dead yet, their problem is they just paid the man 1.5 million, to then trade him makes for one heck of a "good bye gift" for a player.

    Heck, if his 8.8 million included the 1.5 then 7.3 would be right around the upper limit of his value, to me that would make space for a deal but Elway maybe just digs in his heels now.

     
  15. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    And.....

    Maybe we freed up space by canning Crowder to allow us to meet Orton halfway...
     
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  16. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    if this is true can he not pay it back ?
     
  17. padre31

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    There are false pregnancies that look like real ones, but turn out not to be.

    This deal maybe is like a person who drowns in ice cold water and is "dead" but then revived.
     
  18. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    well if we end up with orton and burnett tonight -crowder, that would be not so bad
     
  19. padre31

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    No, well he could, that rarely happens, what normally happens is the club eats the payment cost and looks really dumb for doing so.
     
  20. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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  21. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I think the problem wasn't that we couldn't afford Orton's demands. The problem was the we didn't want to afford Orton's demands because he was looking for the kind of contract that made him a de dacto starter for the next couple of years and not a stop gap solution until we picked up a real quarterback. The space wasn't the issue; the issue was if we were prepared to make a commitment to Orton beyond 2011 and 2012.
     
  22. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Agreed that would take our Qb situation from one of the "5 worst" supposedly to one of the better ones in the NFL as having 3 Qb's all with extenisve starting experience and under 30 is rare in the NFL as most of the time the #3 Qb is a late rd pick or a UDFA type.
     
  23. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Buy a Dolphins polo and use a lot of black-grey dye?

    But thanks for the link. I loved how in the middle of the interview Ross' phone goes off with the Michigan fight song and the guy seems genuinely embarassed. Good guy, from what I've gathered so far, but like Huizenga, he should play much more of a background role than he's doing right now.
     
  24. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    its off now, anyone saw this, ross´s handy was ringing , he has the michigan fight song as a ringtone, pretty funny
     
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  25. femalefinfan

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    Nice princess bride refrence.
     
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  26. padre31

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    Glad someone caught it.
     
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  28. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
     
  29. Larryfinfan

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    They passed on VY, but my educated guess is that there was a wink, wink, nod, nod deal in place at Philly with Young...It just happened too fast and VY [and everyone else] knew that he was going to be cut...
     
  30. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Absolutely...what he said...
     
  31. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    i really like it, just to lazy right now, will look for it though
     
  32. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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  33. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Have fun storming the castle.
     
  34. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ross is harmeless..He loves our team and he's willing to spend his money, he's allowed to hang sround..
     
  35. Bpk

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    I looked for a miracle max clip to reply with, but there wasnt one for just the 'dead' line.
     
  36. DOLFANMIKE

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  37. Bpk

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    Someone's gotta pay for Matt Moore.

    Pony up, mofo.
     
  38. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    it is what it is, no time to panic
    better to not squander picks & treasure in desperation
    next year will be a good draft for QB's
    pick up the elite Left-Guard, re-sign Ronnie or Ricky
    run the ball & hope either Henne or Pat Devlin step up

    the die is caste
     
  39. padre31

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    If Omar Kelly is to be believed, Orton wanted Kolb money, or better said, the Kolb deal would impact the Orton situation.
     
  40. Conuficus

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    Well away from here
    I think you nailed that one there Ven.
     

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