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How Great Does Trading For James Jones Look Now??

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by slickj101, Aug 25, 2012.

  1. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Ideally for a 4th or less, but I'd probably even go to a 3rd with how bad the rest of our corp is.

    Ya, we could play the wait and see game if he gets cut, but you know the odds of him not getting picked up by another team are really slim.

    I know Ireland isn't seeing any 1s, 2s, or 3s out there so here's hoping he pulls the trigger soon.

    Tannehill has shown plenty, get that man some ammo.
     
  2. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    If he gets cut, would he be on the waiver wire?
     
  3. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    I believe so, which means hello Cleveland most likely.
     
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  4. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I don't think he's in danger of being cut, it's just that they have so many options up there already that they could afford to trade him.
     
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  5. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I'd rather trade a third and Jared Odrick for Greg Jennings. Jones was a free agent this offseason. Why did we not even bring him in for a visit?
     
  6. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    It would feel like trading for prime Randy Moss right about now...
     
  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Because he wasn't a free agent.
     
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  8. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    James Jones? The guy that drops half of his opportunities?

    No thanks. I mean, I would take him for a lower pick, but he has the same problem most of our other weapons have, serious case of dropsies
     
  9. slickj101

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    As long as we're making Madden trades we might as well shoot for Megatron for Reggie Bush and a 2nd.
     
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  10. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    so you're saying it's not 2011?
     
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  11. slickj101

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    We've been down this road before. He's got good hands it's more of a consistency problem.

    That and his athleticism is something we don't have in our WR group.

    Btw, where the **** was Hogan last night? You'd think with every other WR not named Bess ****ting the bed they'd of given Hogan a shot.
     
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  12. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    That is an exaggeration and not correct.
     
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  13. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I honestly don't think it's a Madden trade... it benefits both teams. Jennings is what 29? He's in the last year of his contract. The Packers are ready to move on from him in that they have great depth. They have prepared for this eventuality. I don't think they'll resign him next offseason. May as well get something in return for him now and upgrade your defensive front which was a huge liability last year. You add Odrick to that group, in an odd man front, and you've done that. Odrick is not a defensive end for us in this even man front. That's not his position. We're fairly deep at defensive tackle, probably the deepest position on the team (maybe behind qb and rb). Adding the third rounder evens up the trade IMO.
     
  14. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Obviously its an exaggeration ..... but the point remains.
     
  15. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    If it's that much of an exaggeration then it's a pretty weak point.
     
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  16. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    I just can't see them doing that. Odrick doesn't have that kind of clout around the league and they'd probably laugh at only a 3rd for Jennings.

    Doesn't Jennings have a pretty big contract too? He's not the kind of player I'd want to be locked up to long-term either.
     
  17. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    The point remains. He drops a good amount of balls. And its not a weak point. I couldn't care any less whether its his hands or his concentration, I care that he drops passes.
     
  18. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I have watched Borel and Gurley in some of their preseason games for the Packers. They are probably not any better than some of our young guys like Matthew and Fuller. Borel is used in the return game and both of these guys are pretty tall. And after a night to think about it I still can't justify Naanee on this roster.
     
  19. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It would be a good option at this point, for sure. I think there's got to be something preventing it if it hasn't happened at this point, maybe?

    I don't believe he was a free agent and everything I've seen has him finishing a 4-year deal next offseason.
     
  20. slickj101

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    He also catches passes that nobody else on this roster has the skill to bring in, even Bess. That point also remains.
     
  21. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Jones is a vested veteran anyway. He'd not go through the waiver process at this time of year would he?
     
  22. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    And? So would Burress. Look, I said I would take him. But giving up a 3rd rounder for someone elses #4, who has the same issues everyone complained about with Marshall, who is 10 times the wideout James Jones is, is ridiculous.
     
  23. P h i N s A N i T y

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    thats not really an improvement for such a nice pick. maybe a marginal improvement for a short term fix, still a terrible idea.

    sounds like the lamar gordon trade.
     
  24. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    lol I doubt that. That's why so many teams are lining up for Burress right? Saying he has the same issues as Marshall is what's ridiculous.

    I think people over-value picks. I bet we'd get more out of the 3rd we'd give up for Jones than we're getting out of Egnew this year.
     
  25. Rouk

    Rouk Well-Known Member

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    you get rid of brandon marshall for 2 3rds and you want to trade a 3rd for james jones gtfo
     
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  26. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Jennings has $3.8m base left on his contract and then is a free agent next year. (only $200k more than Fasano but I digress). Jones has $2.5m and $3.15m bases next two years.
     
  27. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    What great moves have we made with a precious 3rd round pick? Have some stones.
     
  28. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    That's def not as bad as I thought. I wonder how much money he's looking for in the new deal though.

    I still can't see either side wanting him to leave GB.
     
  29. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    James Jones is half the player Marshall is... sounds about right.
     
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  30. slickj101

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    He's also only got half of his personality.
     
  31. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    make no mistake, he'd want more money to sign long term with us. But probably less than what we were paying Marshall. ($9.1m, $9.3m, $9.3m bases next three years). I would go in the $6 to $7.5m base range, but that's just me :wink2:
     
  32. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    dont you mean personalities?
     
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  33. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Idk I'm not used to writing in 4th or 5th person.

    I bet Jones has slipped on half the McDonald's bags though.
     
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  34. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    also, Brandon's wife is easily twice as nuts right?
     
  35. slickj101

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    Easily.
     
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  37. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    So many other teams are lining up for James Jones too right?


    http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/a...worst_hands_in_2010/4335487?linksrc=foxrg_nfl


    Heres 2010 stats. Im sure I will look at 2011 when I get a chance. Brandon Marshall 7.5% drops. JJ 6.9%. Big difference right?
     
  38. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    And heres 2011....would you like to continue to think Jones didnt have the same issues as Marshall. Half the player, with the same problem.

    Albeit, better person. But....my point.....remains


    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/17/drop-rate-2011-which-receivers-are-dropping-the-ball/
     
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  39. slickj101

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    lol Really? One is a FA and could've been signed at any time for peanuts and nobody has and the other is still holding a 4th WR spot in one of the deepest WR corps in the league.

    Yea, Marshall's only issue is his drops :lol: Did you write that with a straight face?
     
  40. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    All ive been talking about is drops this entire time. I said people clowned on Marshall because of his drops and yet want someone that has the same issues, obviously referring to his drops. Im sorry you didn't catch that.
     

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