I was just wondering about a scenario. Lets say for arguments sake that the player Parcells really likes is Ryan Clady? Could he make him an offer of 40 million or whatever the number 8 is expected to get and say take it or leave it, otherwise we draft someone else and maybe you go to the Ravens and maybe you last past the top ten and make even less.
Or are we tied to offering at least as much as Jamracus Russell got last year due to the CBA agreement no matter who we pick with number one
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Well, we can offer anything we want. There's nothing that says the player has to accept. Realistically though, it'll be at least the %increase of the cap over last year. So, if the cap raised 15% from last year, add that amount to Russel's contract from last year and that'll be the offer, minimum.
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So theoritically we could go to someone like Ryan Clady and say "look, we like you but you're slated to be picked earliest at number 8. We'll offer you number 7 money if you sign with us and take you with our number 1 pick
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They really need to implement some sort of rookie cap or pay scale.
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I am sure the Phins have some good lawyers who could draw up a contract with several guys pre-draft, contingent on where they might be picked, and maybe offer them less than the $60 million gauranteed. There doesn't seem to be "collusion" issues when signing a draft pick like there is with trying to tamper with other team's players. There also is no rule preventing us from letting the whole fifteen minutes run without us drafting anyone.
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I really think if they are going to have a cap space rule for the teams, then they should have a cap rule for each draft pick, say for number 1 at this position, this is the most you can get and so on...kind of one sided to me, limit the teams to what they can spend, but not the unproven rookies to what they can ask for. It's going to get to the point where a 1st pick in the 1st 5 picks will max a teams cap space eventutally..just ridiculous.
And as has been discussed here before..it is ludicrous to pay ANY unproven rookie as much as they do...look at that idiot Heath Shuler(who by the way we are unlucky enough to have as a congressman for our district here), what a washout and remember Brian Bosworth? and others?
Give them all league minimum starting out and let them PROVE/EARN the high dollars. I know I would never ever pay high money for an unproven commodity..no way...no way...
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What he(I) said ^
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The best model for what you are saying is what Houston did a couple of years ago. Get 2 , or 3 players singled out and offer them the same money and whoever will agree to it is the pick. You then get to sign them before the draft, so no holdout. This would be the perfect year to do that since there are 4 or 5 different players that could go #1.
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I hope we let the time elapse.
I cannot imagine being stuck in the same boat as someone like the 49ers, with a FORTUNE invested in the next Alex Smith.
I don't want the number one pick with the destructive slotted rookie (I.e. Unproven) contracts nowadays unless there's a Peyton Manning on the board.
This year no one deserves number one money.
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This is not going to happen. It comes up every draft time as a rumour and it just never happens.Larryfinfan likes this. -
emo's got it right.
Plus, why would Clady, and more specifically his agent, since that's who we're using (but we could be using anyone who might be slated # 8 on our board), accept # 7 money, when there's nothing written in stone that he won't be drafted # 2 or # 3 or # 4 or # 5 or # 6?
Also, under the time elapsed theory, if we do pick someone on down the line with our first round pick, and we're slated with the # 1 pick, the agent of the player we pick is going to demand # 1 money. It doesn't matter where we take the player. Sure, you can play hardball, but that agent, if he's worth his salt, isn't settling for less. And everybody's going to lose in that scenario.
The reality of all this, though, is none of it's going to happen. We're taking a Long with our first round pick.Larryfinfan likes this. -
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Finrunner, you've made a great point and to add, it just doesn't seem like something that Tunaland would do...it's almost circumventing the system and that certainly isn't the way they do things... Tuna's always been an in-your-face coach and it just doesn't seem to be his style...
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