If Roth does not Practice today, does it mean we Trade him

Coach said last week it could be wednesday.. that the nfl was holding it back.

We don't want to trade Mat.. we will never get his worth.. let him earn his way back onto the field. Mat takes a big chunk of the field away.. we could use that.. turn everything back inside again. They were estatic about his progress before the "non football" injury, lets get him on the feild and see if he learned anything. The game started slowing down for him last year.. that will only get better with reps.

Matt Roth STILL isn't practicing.

Guess Miami Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland doesn't have as much pull with the NFL office as hoped.

See, by rule, Roth can't start practicing until Tuesday, which will mark the end of the sixth league week with Roth on the reserve/non-football injury list. The Dolphins were hoping -- with Ireland as the point man -- to get Roth practicing by today due to the fact they were coming off a bye week and won't practice Tuesday.

No dice.

I still wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see the Dolphins trade Roth by Tuesday's 4 p.m. deadline. In order to do that, of course, they would have to move Roth onto the 53-man roster, which would force them to expose another player (Kory Sheets?) to waivers.

But if that move would result in a top-shelf WR like Dwayne Bowe coming here, who cares?

Bowe, by the way, is all set to come back to his native South Florida for Roth, a second-round pick and a fifth-round pick. At least that's what some joker changed his Wikipedia page to read over the weekend.

Wouldn't it be amazing if that's exactly what ended up happening? Maybe that's the next wave of reality in this ever-changing world: Wiki-ing your way to a desired outcome

http://forums.thephins.com/showthread.php?t=39274

He starts to practice tommorrow and I will not rule him being traded. Roth becomes a FA after the season, I would much rather get something for him before he is gone.

The Jets had a 100 yard rushing game against us, well over our average at the time. I saw a lot of people attributing that to them running right at JT. If that's the case, we could definitely use Roth to get in there and stuff up the run.

I was thinking differently a week or so ago, but thinking about it again I really just don't think we'd get someone who could produce now, in exchange for Roth (who should be able to produce now). Wait till the season is over if we decide to trade him, but if they didn't decide to fire off a trade going into the bye week, where they can give someone that extra week of training, I doubt they're going to do it 6 days from game day.

This "non-football" injury just made him cheaper.. his worth in trade, and his next contract.

why trade Roth, when we have a glut of duplicate WRs ... trade CAM if you are going to trade for a WR ...

we need Roth on the strong side ... if we hope to make a serious run at the playoffs ...

a healthy Roth and Bowe as a WR improve this team heading down the stretch ...

Do we even practice on Mondays? I honestly don't think Roth is being moved... or if we can even move him given that he hasn't played. Another team can't see how he is practicing, let alone playing. We need him to play strong side and take some of the load off JT (who could wear down) and JP (who is already banged up). Our need for Roth outweighs any trade value he has. Plus, he'll be a restricted free agent next year, won't be hard to tender (and then trade if we needed to at that point).

"SeanP wrote:

The Jets had a 100 yard rushing game against us, well over our average at the time. I saw a lot of people attributing that to them running right at JT. If that's the case, we could definitely use Roth to get in there and stuff up the run.

Leon Washington and Thomas Jones combined for about 90 yards against us. The "rushing" numbers were inflated due to the 2 fake punts, which were attributed as rushing plays.

Our run defense was solid against the jets. Our run defense is excellent, with or without Matt Roth.

Trades are few and far between in the NFL, especially during the season. Fun to speculate, however chances of Miami making a trade, especially for someone of siginficance, is rare. There might trade Moses to someone for a 6th rounder or something.

As for why we have been so solid against the run. You can tank Starks, Langford, Merling and Soliai. Yes I said Soliai, there is another thread about why we have been so great against the run. BTW the Jets have a good rushing attack, look at how they ran against the Bills, but we stoped them.

http://forums.thephins.com/showthread.php?t=39204

"Paul 13 wrote:

Do we even practice on Mondays? .

This week we do since we didn't play on Sunday. Dolphins were looking for clarification on the exact day Roth could start. Classically its Tuesday because most teams will have the Monday off. Sparano was trying to find out from the league if they would allow Roth to practice this Monday.

I think we make no moves. Ireland likes having the picks too much.

"SeanP wrote:

Wait till the season is over if we decide to trade him

How does one trade a player in the off season when said player is going to be a free agent in the off season?????

With no collective bargaining agreement, I think Roth may not be a free agent this spring. Also, we have the franchise tag.

"calfishman wrote:

With no collective bargaining agreement, I think Roth may not be a free agent this spring. Also, we have the franchise tag.

He'll likely be a restricted free agent... tender him at his 2nd round value at the very least.. you could then trade him for less than that if need be. This is assuming with no CBA, the restricted tender process is still in place.

"calfishman wrote:

With no collective bargaining agreement, I think Roth may not be a free agent this spring. Also, we have the franchise tag.

In all likelihood the NFL would delay the start of free agency rather than heading into an uncapped year, it happened a few years ago.

Roth fits our defense
comes @ the right price
he's going nowhere