Very encouraging considering the protection situation and lack of reliable supporting running game.


He's got issues, no doubt, and many things to work, however his issues are more prevalent because he is being forced to do more than he is currently ready. He should not have been placed in this situation so young in his career. His position would see many a good veteran QB struggle too.

 

Whoa now, who drafted that guy?

 

Yeah I have no doubt Ryan will continue to progress. In all honesty aside from Wallace our offense due to injury is mainly the same as last season.

Ryan still has no real red zone targets or power running game to work with inside the 20. Yet he has progressed in seemingly every way.

 

Year three for Ryan and an assumed upgrade in protection has HUGE potential IMO.

 

You know what's great???

Playing the jets and seeing their qb situation implode while ours plays one of his best games of his career

 

Unfortunately he set a record for sacks as well. :0( But I agree he can be great if surrounded by better people.

 

A few certainly have been on him, but its more reasonable to say our line set that record.

 

I think he may mean a dolphin record, we may or may not be close to. I'm not sure.

 

Re: If Ryan Tannehill averages 222 yards passing for the remainder of the season...

Since Incognito and Martin have been out the pass blocking has been much better.



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The same "guy" who built the worst offensive line in the league, set us up with no depth anywhere (accept the defensive line, and that depth is likely gone this offseason) and has us set up for another exciting run toward 8-8.

 

Lol That would be epic.

 

If Ryan can keep up his averages for the rest of the season, it'll easily be the best season by a Miami QB since 1994, and arguably the 5th or 6th best in team history. He's far from a finished product, but as raw as he was and behind our gross OL, you'd be crazy not to keep him and see how much better he can get.

 

Not sure why this is relevant here... but its par for the course here lately I guess.

That being said... Tannehill is leavign some plays out there, making some mistakes, but how anyone cant be encouraged with the potential this kid still has to grow, with a better OL, is just beyond me. He's making some ridiculous throws out there every week. He's making some poor ones too. I think its obvious he has all the tools. I think we need to remember still... he's raw. He's clearly grown from last year... I think we need to be a bit more patient still. Im excited about his future, and I hope its here, for quite some time still.

 

None of this matters unless he leads us to playoffs.

 

wow, 20 Td's...where have I heard that one?

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Said, enjoy THill folks, a running game and BLine and Wallace are housing long Td passes

 

Tannehill is making a lot his good (and bad) throws on the run or frankly just not in the pocket. Absolutely inexcusable. No QB should have to fight that hard on every snap to get away from the pass rush. And now that he is doing well despite those holes in the offensive, some people think he is holding this team back? This team is holding him back.


With all the problems with this team, and franchise, OL, play-calling, heck special teams!...to even talk Tannehill at this point would be in glaring ignorance to the reality of the situation.

 

His pocket management has been much better the past two weeks.

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Best QB season since 1994? Hmm I was 7. My son is now 5.....thats a things of beauty.

 

I think Pennington's 2008 was the best single season. Tannehills is second best IMO

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Agree 100%. If only Pennington's shoulder issues weren't a factor...we'd be our QB today most likely.


That said, a lot our success that season came from the shock and awe that was the wildcat. Regardless Chad definitely earned his cheque that year. And for that reason my Pennington jersey will be worn when we make the playoffs again.

 

I'm less scared of the sack fumble with him.

 

I've noticed improvement there also, he also seems to be tucking it and running more decisively as of late. Which is encouraging.

 

He can also take a beating.

 

Doug Martin was a first round pick and Bobby Rainey seems capable. As for a running back, I'd trade a 5th for Mike James.

 

And say what you want....

But ....I feel pretty confident we can move the ball up and down the field when we want, against pretty much anyone. Now...just gotta get better at actually getting in the end zone...

 

He's really done a good job protecting the ball the last few weeks, which is nice. I know its been a frustrating ride at times, but this is the ride you get to take when you draft a young, inexperienced QB. There's progress happening, I think we all see it... that's encouraging, just have to be patient and enjoy the ride.

 

As a total Buckeye homer I would love for us to get Hyde. He is big, fast, and surprisingly shifty for his size. We need a back that can also pick up the blitz and catch the ball out of the backfield.

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I'm excited about Tanny. I think he is awesome off the field (pressers and stuff) and shows good mental toughness on the field. Great physical tools. Not sure about the QB coach, don't know enough to know.

 

I get the confidence when we actually get pass protection, and when we arent getting blitzed to death, but again that goes to pass protection.

A great example of that is the Wallace TD today, Tanny see's the obvious heavy blitz coming, throws it quickly to Wallace in the face of the pressure, Wallace is able to run by/through (whatever you want to call it) a poor tackling attempt by Milliner for the TD.

For him not to be shellshocked after the way this OL protected him earlier this year... its impressive in itself IMO. He stands in there, in pressure so much and delivers otherwise good throws a majority of the time, you havae to like that.

If we can protect him, I have that same confidence. Haven't had that in a Miami QB in a while.

It's the inconsistency I still worry about, but that's not just Ryan, its the entire team and staff IMO.

 

Did start a thread about what we are seeing

Perhaps your "Bear" duties distracted one

 

I disagree. We went to the WildCat for a reason, and that reason was Pennington's poor chunk yardage ability. Penny was the epitome of excellent game manager.

 

Tannehill has shown he can be a very good QB in this league, but we're not doing him any favors with the design of the offense.

We need to stop forcing him into a predetermined mold and start playing to his strengths, and avoiding his weaknesses...the first of which is his deep ball. Ryan Tannehill simply does not throw a good deep ball. I've seen the stats, and I've read all the breakdowns, but his deep throws just don't pass the eyeball test, and there are more excuses on his behalf than there are accurate throws beyond 30 yards. His ability to accurately judge distance and timing on a deep throw is poor, and I'm not sure that is going to get better.

Now, that's not to say he isn't good, and can't be great. He is, and he can be...with a better design.

For now though, the most glaring problem is that Mike Wallace and Ryan Tannehill just don't really fit together. Sure they can make it work on occasion, but their pairing is never going to be a strength for this team, and as such we should not invest so heavily in it going forward. In order for Tannehill to reach his full potential, he needs quick, YAC guys (including more pass-catching talent out of the backfield) and taller, physical, possession receivers. Assuming we spend the majority of our resources this year rebuilding the offensive line, we should follow up within 2 years by redesigning the receiving corps to play toward Tannehill's biggest assets which are mobility and accuracy outside the pocket, and then just hope his pocket awareness continues to improve.

I don't think Tannehill is ever going to be a quick strike guy, but he absolutely can carve teams up with the right talent around him.

 

Well not really. Wildcat was used mainly for short yardage and red-zone situations. Yeah there were a few huge yardage circus-act highlights that year out of that formation, but it really wasn't used as a Pennington crutch...

 

Apparently you haven't read the game day threads, according to most he should be benched for Matt Moore...

 

That's simply not true at all. Its so untrue, I'm not sure you watched games that year.

We had Ricky and Ronnie. Short yardage and red zone was the least of our offense's problems.

 

You just made me imagine Ryan as the QB for those Ricky Williams dominating seasons. I hate you.