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I'm not defending Tannehill anymore

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Shane Falco, Sep 30, 2016.

  1. Shane Falco

    Shane Falco Banned

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    So he should have thrown to a guy he can't see, or the guy who isn't looking for the ball?

    Thanks for your input.
     
  2. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    You're crazy.

    The guy on the left is already flat footed staring right at Tanny. The RB over the middle is mid-break - he's literally turning. By the time the ball comes out and hits him his head would have already been turned.

    Seriously how long do you guys think it takes a human to turn his head? The point is getting the ball out of the pocket to avoid negative plays.
     
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  3. Shane Falco

    Shane Falco Banned

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    LOL your hate blinds you. Look at the pic. He has maybe a half second before he gets crushed. How is he going to turn his head, see the WR, throw the ball in a half second?

    Learn.
     
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  4. WhyaskWhy

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    Good, there is no defending his horrible play anyway...
     
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  5. Shane Falco

    Shane Falco Banned

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    You just don't take the hint do you, Phins Up Wins Up.

    Get lost, again.
     
  6. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy Club Member

    Rock has a point. I'm not sure the guy on the left has his head turned yet (can't see his helmet), but an incomplete pass is better than a sack and those are the only options available.
     
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  7. Shane Falco

    Shane Falco Banned

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    I don't think he had enough time. If he pulled his arm back to throw he would have fumbled.
     
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  8. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Actually, if you watch this video of the play, you will see as it plays on, there's a defender right there. Probably beside that Dolphins player you barely see at the side of this frame. The only legitimate option he had was Drake, but the DT probably blocks/knocks down that pass.

    [video=twitter;781921924133912576]https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/781921924133912576[/video]
     
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  9. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy Club Member

    That kind of post will not be tolerated and has been reported.
     
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  10. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy Club Member

    This one is my favorite.

    [video=twitter;781915702982799360]https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/781915702982799360[/video]
     
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  11. DW2

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    He cannot possibly miss that bohemoth of a man coming at him. Tanny is fast. He needs to bounce it outside and extend the play for a few seconds before throwing it away. But he just sits ther. waiting for the sack
     
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  12. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy Club Member

    He didn't get sacked. Thanks for playing though.
     
  13. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    I think you're right. One thing he does is that he almost always pats the ball right before throwing, but a lot of QB's do this as well.

    Is it the time it takes from the pat of the ball to the throw that makes it easy to defend? Maybe other QB's throw the ball like a quarter of a second faster after they pat it. I'm thinking the DLmen of nearly all opposing teams are being coached to jump as soon as they see him patting the ball, or something like that, and it's working.

    Maybe he's also just unlucky in that the average height of the ball trajectory on his throws seems to be just about the height of an average defensive linemen. This leads to many tipped balls that fly in the air that can be later caught for an interception. If that height were a few inches shorter, the ball would more often than not go to the ground instead of shooting up and if it were a few inches higher it would be out of reach of most DLmen.
     
  14. dolphin25

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    I see one open in that clip, but hard to see anything when he is locked on Landry
     
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  15. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    The guy on the far left has both feet pointed forwarded to Tanny. The RB in the middle is starting to turn his body and it wouldn't take him long quickly adjust to a pass.

    ......... but ya, the overarching point is to get the ball out to avoid a negative play. Whether the receiver catches it is another issue entirely.
     
  16. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Tanny traditionally throws with a lower trajectory. So yes, it plays a big role in batted balls.
     
  17. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy Club Member

    Check out the gif in post #49 (same play). I don't think he had enough time to lock on anyone. I do agree with you generally speaking though. He does have that tendency.
     
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  18. To be honest i dont think T-hill is amything better than a trent green or rich gannon type. He isnt a natural star but he is talented enough to learn to be one.

    Unfortunately he isnt in tje right learning enviroment. I think he is developing bad habits.



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  19. Shane Falco

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    He's nervous in the pocket from the beatings. He is starting to sense pressure that isn't there because it happens so often. That's why he rushed that pick. He finally had a clean pocket and didn't know how to react.
     
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  20. Brasfin

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    I think he's getting better coaching now, but 4 years of bad habits isn't easy to break out of in just a few months.
     
  21. Brasfin

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    Thing is he doesn't sense pressure when it does exist, or he senses it too late...that is his main flaw right now.
     
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  22. Limbo

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    "I'm not defending Tannehill anymore."...
    To me the protection was fine for most of the game. Started crumbling in the 3rd Q.

    Looking at this one gif or two is kind of silly; every QB has a few snaps like that per game. Defenses, you know, try to get to the QB and succeed sometimes. What happened on one snap is a very minor thing and isn't necessarily indicative of every player involved.

    Last night was what I expected. Offense was super rough. This is what most road teams look like on Thurs night. I'm witholding bigger judgment on the offense until at least week 9. Have to give them some time.
     
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  23. Thats a bad habit

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  24. resnor

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    Yeah, I was talking to a buddy today, who played college football, and coaches at a small university. Anyway, I was saying, I think Tannehill had potential, but I'm not sure it will ever be seen now, certainly not in Miami. Also, despite the potential, I'm sick of Tannehill just not seeming to play with purpose. He still seems, all too often, indecisive. If the whole team is going to be this bad, then we certainly need a more dynamic QB.

    I do think that Tannehill could land someplace else, and be good, I just, at this point, doubt it can be Miami.
     
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  25. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    If we're still debating, in year 5, if Tannenhill is our franchise QB going forward, then he's not the answer.

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  26. SlyFoxxx

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    How much time do you reasonably expect it to take a QB to begin his throwing motion and throw a dump off to a RB? You said above he had a half second, then said he didn't have enough time. That seems like a long throwing motion. Aren't the top guys around .3?
     
  27. WhyaskWhy

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    what games are you watching." Phins up wins up" Are you aware the Dolphins are 1-3. I just want to see my Dolphins play better and win baby win....
     
  28. Bpk

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    What bothers me the most is our financial commitment to this underperforming asset. He is being paid more than he is worth, by far, at present.

    Ask yourself... if he finishes the season with a mid-80's QBR will he deserve to get paid the same amount (vs the cap) as Aaron Rodgers next season? Will he deserve the 6th highest QB salary in the league? Because if he is not contributing at that level, then that money needs to be used elsewhere on our roster or we will continue to lose. Every team has the same resources. It's how you use them that counts.

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  29. Rock Sexton

    Rock Sexton Anti-Homer

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    Think about the money tied up in both Tanny and Suh contrasted with the holes on this team. :angry:
     
  30. Fin-O

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    Bad teams sign bad QB's to bad contracts -Herd
     
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