Indy could be in trade talks with Phin's for Vontae Davis

"pocoloco wrote:

It's Jeff Ireland, so we'll trade a former 1st rounder with great upside for two conditional thirds

Just spitballing here,
Perhaps next year's draft focus will be on finding an elite pass rusher and a top receiver, so having an extra 1st or high 2nd rounder could ensure us addressing both positions which might be more beneficial than keeping Davis, especially considering Davis is a FA in 2 years and there's no guarantee we'll be able to keep him.

Right now, I'm looking at developing Tannehill and getting him a WR weapon as our number 1 priority.
If that means trading Davis for an extra high pick (which also provides us greater 2013 draft flexibility), then I'd do it.

get rid of his mike tyson sounding ass!

Seriously though... if we trade Vontae Davis then I really hope we extend Sean Smith for another 3-4 years right away.

Rotoworld's Evan Silva suspects Dolphins CB Vontae Davis could be the Colts' target, as Williams is playing Thursday night. If he was involved in talks, the Ravens would likely hold him out.

Suspects? Based on what?

I love the new media model. Toss it up there and see if it sticks.

I didn't watch the Ravens game but Williams had a tackle so it must be Davis. Nolan Carroll must be kicking ass behind the scenes.

Hypothetically, would anyone be upset if a draft pick we received for Vontae became a Jordy Nelson caliber impact WR?

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

Seriously though... if we trade Vontae Davis then I really hope we extend Sean Smith for another 3-4 years right away.

We should extend both of them, because they're both very good corners when they're heads are right.

"phinsational wrote:

Hypothetically, would anyone be upset if a draft pick we received for Vontae became a Jordy Nelson caliber impact WR?

We'd be getting better on offense and worse on defense. iMO it would be a wash.

"Rocky Raccoon wrote:

Thread started about the possibility of trading Vontae Davis.

Thread turns into discussions on blumpkins and David Copperfields.

Astute observation, Scoop.

"padre31 wrote:

Hughes is actually among the league leaders in sacks in the preseason.

I'm not a big fan of going into the season with Marshall, Smith, Carroll and Wade as the primary cover guys.

"Finascious D wrote:

Astute observation, Scoop.

Yeah...

Although the David Copperfield where you pull a Naanee but you are really giving a Fuller is impossible. for me at least... she knows when i'm still in the Tannehill.

"gandalfin wrote:

We'd be getting better on offense and worse on defense. iMO it would be a wash.

True, but hypothetically we'd be getting a quality starting receiver for what's currently our nickel corner. Personally, I'd give that edge to the WR.

Now that we have a franchise QB , I'd prioritize a WR for him over the #3 corner on defense.

Vontae's not the nickel. When they go to the nickel, Marshall moves inside. Be that as it may, I understand your point. However, VD is a first round pick with a lot of skills still to be developed, so I don't think it's worth trading him unless it's truly an offer we can't refuse.

I understand people thinking Vontae Davis might be a good player, or have untapped potential.

He's pretty ****ing far from untouchable, though.

Austin Collie caught another concussion, Colts were thin at Wr already and have their own Qb to develop.

They really believe in R Marshall, it would be a foolish move imo, but wth, we are the Dolphins!

:woot:

I don't like the idea of weakening one part of our team to strengthen another unless the balance is much greater on the strengthening side.

I hope he doesnt get traded. All he lacks is maturity, how long did it take vernon to reach that mature level? I say we keep vontae unless it is for a first round pick or a 2nd+ A quality starter like one of their top safeties

"phinsational wrote:

Hypothetically, would anyone be upset if a draft pick we received for Vontae became a Jordy Nelson caliber impact WR?

I would. Nelson is a nice WR, but he has no shot at becoming one of the best at his position. Vontae does...

Hell no. Give them Sean Smith! Vontae is our only playmaker in the secondary.

Colts are going to trade for Mike Wallace... makes too much sense... former Steelers OC. They need deep speed at WR to open up the offense for Luck. Its not Vontae because Irsay said he has to pay the new guy... Vontae doesn't necessarily need a new contract as he's signed for another two years. Period... end of statement..:shifty:

"phinsational wrote:

True, but hypothetically we'd be getting a quality starting receiver for what's currently our nickel corner. Personally, I'd give that edge to the WR.

Now that we have a franchise QB , I'd prioritize a WR for him over the #3 corner on defense.

When you put it that way, sure. But that logic assumes that Vontae's value is that of an average nickel CB. And it isn't even close...

"gandalfin wrote:

I don't like the idea of weakening one part of our team to strengthen another unless the balance is much greater on the strengthening side.

Well, if we have a future franchise QB in Tannehill, then I would hope the balance shifts to the offensive side, IMO.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I understand people thinking Vontae Davis might be a good player, or have untapped potential.

He's pretty ****ing far from untouchable, though.

There's a pretty big difference between untouchable and a package of Hughes + 3rd/4th... lol

"FinNasty wrote:

When you put it that way, sure. But that logic assumes that Vontae's value is that of an average nickel CB. And it isn't even close...

If he can't beat out Marshall, then he's unfortunately our #3 corner, so in that regard I'd use Vontae to give Tannehill a top receiving target; however, if we didn't have Tanny, I wouldn't be saying this.

"FinNasty wrote:

There's a pretty big difference between untouchable and a package of Hughes + 3rd/4th... lol

Vontae would have to be for a top talent or high draft pick rather than a slew of bleh like you used to be able to get away with in Madden. lol

"phinsational wrote:

If he can't beat out Marshall, then he's unfortunately our #3 corner, so in that regard I'd use Vontae to give Tannehill a top receiving target; however, if we didn't have Tanny, I wouldn't be saying this.

No, I'm on board with wanting to upgrade Tannehill's targets, and being willing to sacrifice defense to do that. Supporting Tannehill is priority #1 above all else. But you still need proper value back in the trade...