INJURIES- A Good thing?

I think we miss RB a lot.
And Ferg. Not because I dislike the backups at the nose but because I'm not sure how comfy I am with them starting.

Uh oh. Another injuries are a good thing thread. :lol:

All kidding aside, I will never refer to an injury to any Miami Dolphin as a good thing. But I can acknowledge that some good has came from the situations the injuries have presented. With Henne especially. I still feel awful for Pennington that he worked so hard and to have that happen to him while fighting hard for a win. But Henne has stepped in and proven that he is ready to be the QB of this football team.

But I think a lot of it has to do with the attitude and culture put in place by Sparano, Parcells and company. A guy goes down and everyone steps up and pulls their weight. So completely different from the attitude this team had when Cam was in charge. We lost just as many impact players this year as we lost in 2007. The difference is this is a prepared and well-coached team.

"anlgp wrote:

I think we miss RB a lot.
And Ferg. Not because I dislike the backups at the nose but because I'm not sure how comfy I am with them starting.

This will make your head hurt. With Ronnie, does Henne show as much with the WC?

Good thing? NO

But it has shown one of the things Parcells and Ireland said they wanted to do when they came here, they said we needed to get better and get better depth.

We have much better depth than we have had in a long time.

"MonstBlitz wrote:

Uh oh. Another injuries are a good thing thread. :lol:

All kidding aside, I will never refer to an injury to any Miami Dolphin as a good thing. But I can acknowledge that some good has came from the situations the injuries have presented. With Henne especially. I still feel awful for Pennington that he worked so hard and to have that happen to him while fighting hard for a win. But Henne has stepped in and proven that he is ready to be the QB of this football team.

But I think a lot of it has to do with the attitude and culture put in place by Sparano, Parcells and company. A guy goes down and everyone steps up and pulls their weight. So completely different from the attitude this team had when Cam was in charge. We lost just as many impact players this year as we lost in 2007. The difference is this is a prepared and well-coached team.

Yeah, these guys are really stepping up. IF we all knew in advance of all the guys being hurt, who whoulda given us a shot?

Injuries?..never a good thing. Never!
Since this is a thread for speculating; I believe we've lost at least one game (Buffalo) due to missing personnel.
It's nice to see Henne developing. But aside from that one deep pass to Ginn against the Jets, I don't think he's thrown any that Pennington doesn't throw.
Ronnie out is NOT a good thing. Nothing beneficial about it.
Ricky, as good as he is, always had a tendency to fumble because his hands are kind of small. In addition, the combination of the 2 was keeping them both fresh.

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Good thing? NO

But it has shown one of the things Parcells and Ireland said they wanted to do when they came here, they said we needed to get better and get better depth.

We have much better depth than we have had in a long time.

I understand your thinking. However, without the injuries, Henne, Wake, and Davis are all on the bench. I see a silver lining.

"late again wrote:

Injuries?..never a good thing. Never!
Since this is a thread for speculating; I believe we've lost at least one game (Buffalo) due to missing personnel.
It's nice to see Henne developing. But aside from that one deep pass to Ginn against the Jets, I don't think he's thrown any that Pennington doesn't throw.
Ronnie out is NOT a good thing. Nothing beneficial about it.
Ricky, as good as he is, always had a tendency to fumble because his hands are kind of small. In addition, the combination of the 2 was keeping them both fresh.

IN NO WAY WOULD I EVER HOPE FOR A PLAYER TO BE INJURED, NOT EVEN A JET.

NOT to take anything from Penny but, there were MANY passes he could not have made, and others he would have completed.

As to Ronnie, his injury severely injured the WC. Good or bad thing?

"MaddMatt wrote:

IN NO WAY WOULD I EVER HOPE FOR A PLAYER TO BE INJURED, NOT EVEN A JET.

NOT to take anything from Penny but, there were MANY passes he could not have made, and others he would have completed.

As to Ronnie, his injury severely injured the WC. Good or bad thing?

While I know some will argue that it's a good thing, IMO, right time, right place and it still has it's use - if you have the personnel to run it. We did; now we don't.

Having Pennington go down looks like it may turn out to be a blessing. Ronnie-not so much.

"late again wrote:

While I know some will argue that it's a good thing, IMO, right time, right place and it still has it's use - if you have the personnel to run it. We did; now we don't.

IMO, Henning will still find a way to use it. Pat White is not dead, just "resting."

Henning is challenged. Not a good thing for opposing teams. Every time you expect vanilla, you get a tuti fruiti banana split with lots of nuts, and a cherry.

It's gonna be some fun.

I'm thrilled to see Henne emerge, but in no way am I happy that it took injury to Pennington. Those injuries weakened the team significantly.

I think the better players would have played their way onto the field anyway, always hate to see it happen this way.

I noticed that Grove is listed as questionable for tomorrow. I thought that he had a full practice or two and was near 100%? I will be surprised if he doesn't play tomorrow.

"Lt Dan wrote:

Having Pennington go down looks like it may turn out to be a blessing. Ronnie-not so much.

Tuff call on Ronnie. Would Henne emerge as much with the WC? Are we a better team without it?

Don't know.

football is about injuries & adjustment over the span of a NFL season:
1) obviously, (this season) we'd better be off & a better competitor w/o the injuries. we would be a better team & more competitive on the field had they not happened.
2) the injuries are positive from the stand point of player & team development. an added plus is that we build character through diversity & are still able to compete for a wild-card.
ultimately, the injuries have made us a better team. we would have to take the plunge sooner or later:jump:

Here are my thoughts on Injury’s and how they affected us this year and for years to come for that matter. First off this year’s injuries should have left us devastated and withering in pain. They didn’t however and for the most part they accelerated our rebuilding process.

I think the real question or at the very least the question that peeks my interest the most is how this happened. I mean when you look at who we lost during the course of the year one has to be amazed that we didn’t skip a beat. This part is by design. It’s the mark of a great organization and infrastructure.

Last year (the Front offices first) was absolutely amazing. We had something like 29 players turned over last season. It wasn’t just prior to the start of the season this happened throughout the entire season. This front office is absolutely relentless in turning over what they consider the “bottom of the roster”.

Prior front offices would keep an eye out for upgrades in their starting lineup. Some of our previous regimes wouldn’t even do that successfully. Parcels and Ireland remain heavily involved throughout the entire year always looking for what they consider “acorns”. They never leave any unturned and unchecked.

If you look at a lot of our Free agents they are brought in to simply add depth. They are players built in the Parcels mold and their contracts are cost effective.

It does not end there however. This coaching staff unlike the previous ones not only coaches its starters but spends a lot of time getting their backups ready to compete for a starting job. They coach those guys up as if they are going to start. If they at any time feel that they have a player albeit a starter or the third string backup that they feel simply can’t cut it they get replaced.

It is said that great teams are built through the draft and I fully agree with this. In today’s age of salary caps teams can’t afford to over pay for over priced free agents. That’s not to say you can’t spend a decent amount on free agents it simply means you can’t afford to over pay.

As a fan of this team I am thrilled with the direction we are heading. The last two years respectively we have gotten both younger and more importantly better. It’s a trend that should have each and everyone of us thrilled to witness.

parcells is the best thing to happen to Miami since shula

Injuries?

Lets say this; since Ronnie Brown's injury the offense is averaging 18.5 points per game. The injuries are having an affect, it is just that some are easier to mask than others.

Brown was a player other teams game planned for - that is always missed.

No way glad for any injuries.
Henne has playing time now, should be good for the future.
If Cobbs and Brown could still help Ricky the wildcat would'nt be stagnant.
But this has forced more passing witch will help when these players are healthy.

Could you imagine the threat if these guys started healthy right now?
I would say its safe betting your $ on us finishing out the playoffs undefeated. EZ.
BUT we are not. The back up plan is doing pretty darn good.

every starter is missed
however...
the opportunity available/afforded to a team
in it's second year of re-building is invaluable
& character development (diversity) is priceless
we are the better for it

we are on-becoming a perennial contender in the nfl :up:
thank you Bill Parcells

Soliai has seen much more playing time than McDaniel due to Ferg's injuries.

I think the best thing about the injuries (and there are bad things too) is that we got a really good look at our 'second-tier' younger players so we can make a fair, accurate assessment of our personnel going forwards.

"late again wrote:

Injuries?..never a good thing. Never!
Since this is a thread for speculating; I believe we've lost at least one game (Buffalo) due to missing personnel.
It's nice to see Henne developing. But aside from that one deep pass to Ginn against the Jets, I don't think he's thrown any that Pennington doesn't throw.
Ronnie out is NOT a good thing. Nothing beneficial about it.
Ricky, as good as he is, always had a tendency to fumble because his hands are kind of small. In addition, the combination of the 2 was keeping them both fresh.

I disagree LG, Henne makes 5 to 7 throws per game that pennington could'nt make imo..especially with all the perimeter stuff we like to run..were a better offensive football team with henne at the helm imo.

Henne is all arm, just like a brady, they both have beautiful arm action where they don't necessarily need to have their mechanics under them to make throws.

"LandShark13 wrote:

Here are my thoughts on Injury’s and how they affected us this year and for years to come for that matter. First off this year’s injuries should have left us devastated and withering in pain. They didn’t however and for the most part they accelerated our rebuilding process.

I think the real question or at the very least the question that peeks my interest the most is how this happened. I mean when you look at who we lost during the course of the year one has to be amazed that we didn’t skip a beat. This part is by design. It’s the mark of a great organization and infrastructure.

Last year (the Front offices first) was absolutely amazing. We had something like 29 players turned over last season. It wasn’t just prior to the start of the season this happened throughout the entire season. This front office is absolutely relentless in turning over what they consider the “bottom of the roster”.

Prior front offices would keep an eye out for upgrades in their starting lineup. Some of our previous regimes wouldn’t even do that successfully. Parcels and Ireland remain heavily involved throughout the entire year always looking for what they consider “acorns”. They never leave any unturned and unchecked.

If you look at a lot of our Free agents they are brought in to simply add depth. They are players built in the Parcels mold and their contracts are cost effective.

It does not end there however. This coaching staff unlike the previous ones not only coaches its starters but spends a lot of time getting their backups ready to compete for a starting job. They coach those guys up as if they are going to start. If they at any time feel that they have a player albeit a starter or the third string backup that they feel simply can’t cut it they get replaced.

It is said that great teams are built through the draft and I fully agree with this. In today’s age of salary caps teams can’t afford to over pay for over priced free agents. That’s not to say you can’t spend a decent amount on free agents it simply means you can’t afford to over pay.

As a fan of this team I am thrilled with the direction we are heading. The last two years respectively we have gotten both younger and more importantly better. It’s a trend that should have each and everyone of us thrilled to witness.

Well said, and agree 110%. Howzabout Polite as an acorn many "blind squirrels" ignored? :)

"the 23rd wrote:

every starter is missed
however...
the opportunity available/afforded to a team
in it's second year of re-building is invaluable
& character development (diversity) is priceless
we are the better for it

we are on-becoming a perennial contender in the nfl :up:
thank you Bill Parcells

Yeah, in the past when players went down we had excuses of no depth and bad drafts.

Now, we have reasons to show the depth and great acquisitions which were made. As you said- PRICELESS.