Is E.A. Wallis Budge a Thief?
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As the title asks, is EA Wallis Budge a thief? According to Egyptians, he is one because he stole Egyptian artifacts. However, he purchased it on the black market in Egypt and preserved the artifacts, which is something the Egyptians failed to do. What do you guys think about him? Do you find him to be a thief or a great historian?
USArmyFinFanforum_veteranI think we need more of the story, like what are his intentions with the artifacts? If he hordes them away, thief, if they go in a museum, historian.
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Jimmy V. (Mar '93)
"USArmyFinFan wrote:
I think we need more of the story, like what are his intentions with the artifacts? If he hordes them away, thief, if they go in a museum, historian.
Basically what he did was purchase Egygptian artifacts from a black market in Egypt. The Egyptian museums did not preserve the artifacts and didn't take care of them, so he purchased the items, deciphered the hieroglyphics and wrote a translation book of the Book of the Dead, which is the most famous scroll in Egypt. Many Egyptians have said that he's a thief because the government stated that the artifacts were not to be sold but he found them and purchased them. He didn't sell them as profit, instead preserved them as stated and wanted to find out about Egyptian history.
The way I look at it is, he did purchase them illegally but they were out there and he took a chance on it. He also took care of it and helped Egyptians learn about their culture in the early years. He published a translation of the Book of the Dead in 1890 I think and the Book of the Dead also has helped shape the Bible.
gafinfansubscriber"alen1 wrote:
Basically what he did was purchase Egygptian artifacts from a black market in Egypt. The Egyptian museums did not preserve the artifacts and didn't take care of them, so he purchased the items, deciphered the hieroglyphics and wrote a translation book of the Book of the Dead, which is the most famous scroll in Egypt. Many Egyptians have said that he's a thief because the government stated that the artifacts were not to be sold but he found them and purchased them. He didn't sell them as profit, instead preserved them as stated and wanted to find out about Egyptian history.
The way I look at it is, he did purchase them illegally but they were out there and he took a chance on it. He also took care of it and helped Egyptians learn about their culture in the early years. He published a translation of the Book of the Dead in 1890 I think and the Book of the Dead also has helped shape the Bible.
This quote comes to mind "What man is a man who does not make the world a better place." - Kingdom of Heaven. Or even better "We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst." C.S.L.
While I'm sure he had many reasons to do what he did he also did a good thing which the Egyptians did not.:wink2:
This is the only thing I’ve learned: There’s only us. There’s no them. Despots and authoritarians need to make a “them” to have a straw man whom you are against. If you need to make an enemy of “them,” you’ve lost the spirit of us. - Ken Burns of PBS
BigDogsHuntNew MemberTo live in the world without becoming aware of the meaning of the world is like wandering about in a great library without touching the books.
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BDH -
"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.
"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."
Jimmy V. (Mar '93)
gafinfansubscriber"BigDogsHunt wrote:
To live in the world without becoming aware of the meaning of the world is like wandering about in a great library without touching the books.
—The Secret Teachings of All Ages
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/
Double WOW, Thank you 1000 times over! As long as I can read and learn I'm willing to stay around.:up:
This is the only thing I’ve learned: There’s only us. There’s no them. Despots and authoritarians need to make a “them” to have a straw man whom you are against. If you need to make an enemy of “them,” you’ve lost the spirit of us. - Ken Burns of PBS
BigDogsHuntNew Member"gafinfan wrote:
Double WOW, Thank you 1000 times over! As long as I can read and learn I'm willing to stay around.:up:
Its a very, very, well detailed account of so many interesting Physical science and metaphysical science areas that I too am fascinated.
Lots to digest, and read and re-read to fully comprehend. Glad you get a chance to enjoy it too.:hi5:
BDH -
"To me, there are three things we all should do every day of our lives. Number one is laugh. You should laugh every day. Number two is think. You should spend some time in thought. And Number three is, you should have your emotions moved to tears, could be happiness or joy.
"If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special."
Jimmy V. (Mar '93)
anlgpNew Member"alen1 wrote:
Basically what he did was purchase Egygptian artifacts from a black market in Egypt. The Egyptian museums did not preserve the artifacts and didn't take care of them, so he purchased the items, deciphered the hieroglyphics and wrote a translation book of the Book of the Dead, which is the most famous scroll in Egypt. Many Egyptians have said that he's a thief because the government stated that the artifacts were not to be sold but he found them and purchased them. He didn't sell them as profit, instead preserved them as stated and wanted to find out about Egyptian history.
The way I look at it is, he did purchase them illegally but they were out there and he took a chance on it. He also took care of it and helped Egyptians learn about their culture in the early years. He published a translation of the Book of the Dead in 1890 I think and the Book of the Dead also has helped shape the Bible.
Actions are about intent.
He had good intent IMO
he gets a :up: from me
On an aside the book of the dead is interesting if anyone wants a PDF copy I'm sure I can dig it up. edit: http://www.sacred-texts.com has it and http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/ebod/index.htm there it is.
ps
you posted something that wasn't about sports :omg: :lol:
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
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