looks like a dang pyramid to me

 

They could have used an existing feature and excavated a structure. Kind of resembled an Aztec/Inca stepped pyramid to me.. the early Egyptian efforts were step pyramids too.

 

It's alien. :whistling:

 

no, he's alen

 

Reminds me of something we were told before the ship left for the SCS. Anything you see out there that looks like a straight line is man made. Those sure look like straight lines to me.

 

Heh, if it was built from the ground up it's a pyramid.

 

so in your mind, from the ground down won't qualify?

 

Pyramids are found in many ancient cultures because they are the simplest and most logical way to build a high man made structure.We are talling about people who only had basic natural materials to work with .They did not have the benefit of steel reinforcement so they could not build skyscraper type of structures to achieve heigth

They were usually built to glorify the gods or house the priests or nobility or those of high stature in their respective societies.

The theory was that the higher you built a structure the closer you would be to the gods . Consequently the higher you lived in a structure the more important you would be in that society.

In addition a high structure provides a better defense against enemies.

Having said that I think that this particular pyramid is natural .If there was an advanced culture in that region there would be more pyramids and more evidence of its existence .

Its not unusual to have straight lines and geometric shapes found in nature .

 

Maybe both? :wink2:

 

the 'Bosnian Pyramid of the Sun' foundation, whatever that is, said the geologist said that. As far as I can tell, there is no direct quote from any geologist save..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_pyramids

There are no absolute dates at all, let alone any that would pin it between 12,000 and 500 BC. If I had to guess, I would say there's a later site on the top and sides. It's not uncommon for big hilltops to see fortifications during time of large-scale warfare, complete with wall, terraces, wells etc.

This guy is tunneling through the stuff, potentially wrecking Bosnian heritage, try desperately to find something that would suggest an Atlantis connection.

 

If this is 'definitely' a pyramid, then Vermont and New Hampshire were the centers of the universe

 

I am not a history major or anything, however I do remember from my history class that there are a few advanced cultures that would not have any evidence if it wasn't for the fact that the Egyptians kept really good records.

 

There is no evidence that the ability to build pyramids was something one culture borrowed from another .

That was Erick Von Daniken theory in his book The Chariots of the Gods.He theorized that the Mayan pyramids were somehow related to the egyptian pyramids and that both cultures were taught how to make pyramids by extraterrestial beings :shifty:.

Pyramids were common to American indians in the mississippi basin,to the Mayans in Central America and the Incas in South America.The pyramids were used for completely different purposes.No relation.

There were pyramids in Mesopotania ,southeast asia again used for different purposes .

The conclusion many experts have made is that if an ancient culture wanted to build a high structure for any reason it would have to be a pyramid .:yes:

 

No idea, at least according to Wiki he claimed to have been misquoted, actually saying construction began sometime between 12,000 and 500 BC. There's no evidence to support that claim that I've found, so I suppose it is his hunch

The problem I have with the 'excavations' is not that they're done by an amateur. Bosnia, after all, has no formal archaeology office or programs. The issue is that he already has his mind made up, and if he finds some late period artifacts, chances are they'll get swept under the rug. The man, after all, has sunk 20 grand of his own money into this thing.

The very worst archaeology projects are ones where the researchers' minds are already made up. He's decided this is a pyramid, perhaps the oldest in the world, and he's out to prove it by selectively inviting geologists and lifting quotes from them. The man's excavation notes are a nightmare. He's after architecture, not artifacts, meaning that a whole class of data (if it even exists) is getting thrown over his shoulder

This is good for some tourism, but on the whole, really really bad for understanding Bosnian prehistory or history. Epically bad if it is a pyramid

 

Carbon dating probably from old vegetation or rubble from previous human habitation

 

if you want to compare this to a bona-fide case of someone finding a gigantic and early pyramid, google El Mirador in lowland Guatemala. It was probably a preClassic Maya 'city' with a pyramid rivaling any of the Old World ones (though pyramids in the Americas came in all shapes and sizes and generally functioned much much differently).

 

they haven't got anything to carbon date. For those who don't know how it works, you can only carbon date stuff that was once alive, and then only if there is enough carbon (though you don't need much) and if it hasn't been contaminated

also from Wiki

 

I'm kind of confused about the picture you provided alen. The pictures I see are just of, what appears to me, as a pyramidal-shaped hill, while the one you had in your first post actually seems to be a structure of some sort (which to me does have signs of being an actual pyramids).

Because this picture (which is just a smaller/different angled viersion of the one on the Bosnian Pyramid website)...



...differs greatly from the picture in your first post.

I have to agree that the picture you provided does look a bit like the Mayan/Aztec/Incan style but I have a question...are those actually pyramids that they built? I mean I only know specifically about the Ancient Egyptian pyramids, but I'm sure you can get really technical and specific with the classifications. For example, would you consider the Ancient Sumerian ziggurats (which were religious temples, similar in some ways to Ancient Egyptian pyramids) a pyramid?

Sorry about going on my philosophical/speculative tangent of actually coming up with a definition of a pyramid. I find it's actually really helpful...or entertaining to say the least.

 

on the subject of pyramids, they really do differ quite greatly. Crunch, I think, is spot on to say they're a common solution to a common problem.
The Incas, as far as I know, never constructed pyramids of their own. They build impressive walls, roads and re-sculpted hills, but the South American versions belong largely to the Moche (in fact, these are the biggest in the Americas I think) and at least one example at the site of Tiwanaku, both previous to the Incas. The Incas co-opted large mounds at the oracle site of Pachacamac near Lima, Peru, but weren't responsible for the construction.

 

The Incas conquered another native tribe in the mountains of Peru who had a pyramid cult .All the major families had their own pyramids and they would live in them in platforms built on top of their pyramids.

It was only recently discovered.Until that time they thought the pyramids were natural because the area is surrounded by mountains.

When I get time I will try to find a reference to it.

 

Actually there were several tribes in Peru that built pyramids including the Mochas
Inca pyramids in Peru

Mysterious Pyramid Complex Discovered in Peru

I cant remember the name of the tribe that had the pyramid cult

 

Its possible but improbable.Only an excavation would confirm that although I suppose a ground and density device could be used too

 

All those are earlier than the Inca, who didn't get rolling until after 1400 till the Spanish. A lot of the sites that reference cosmic energy, Atlantis and so forth typically confuse and blur together most prehistoric traditions in the Americas. For example, I googled Inca pyramid and got a picture of Chichen Itza (Mexico, 1200-1400 AD), Huaca del Sol (Peru 200-800 AD) and various Lima Peru ones, every single one built earlier. The Inca were largely highlanders and didn't deal well with the coastal folk, engaging in a very long and costly war with the Chimu just prior to Spanish arrival.

All the biggest pyramids are on the north coast of Peru, and like most other places in the world, some of the very biggest monuments are the earliest in the area's sequence. The Initial Period (1800-200 BC) monuments are some of the absolute largest in the world but aren't pyramids in the classic sense, they are U-shaped and aren't beside sizeable habitations. Caral is a version of this and a currently researched site to look up if you guys are interested. El Paraiso, I think, is the biggest. Cerro Sechin and Sechin Alto are the coolest.