The spinal fusion surgery has eliminated the majority of his arm strength. All the talk about his brain, people forgot he was as physically talented as anyone. Maybe not elite physical talent across the board, but certainly above average in every area. Jack of all trades. He can't throw intermediate passes with any consistency or accuracy anymore. Sad to see him in this state. He'll probably play another year but it's not going to matter. If today was his last game, the torch has been passed to his successor, Andrew Luck.
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Stick a fork in him. Hes cooked. I dont think this weak arm is a short term problem that can be fixed. It was a problem created by the spinal neck fusion surgery and I dont think his arm will ever be what it used to be if I can speak freely. Feels good to say I rather have our QB then PEYTON MANNING LOL When did Phin fans think we would have finally been able to say that...
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There are some things he can do in the offseason to improve his strength but he is done as far as being a Top 5 quarterback goes.. He will likely play 3 more seasons because he is still going to get 20 mill per.
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I know pride keeps a lot of these guys going, but I think pride could also force him to retire as a shell of his former self before it gets worse. He looked like Marino looked when he had the bone spur happening. Elway convinced him to come to Denver. IMO, Marino should call him and convince him to retire.Clark Kent and shamegame13 like this.
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I think he is done and I think he knows it. He probably had his last great game against us. We should feel honored...
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Something definitely changed midway November though, because Peyton was on fire this season and then bam, his shoulder/rotator cuff went out on him. And they had to settle for Fox Ball to finish the season.
39 TD's 101 Rating, 4700 yards this season... they have to figure out the injury... He can still be a very good quarterback, a top quarterback, but they need to figure out the severity of this injury that slowed him down in the end.DPlus47 and Clark Kent like this. -
I think he calls it quits after next season. Their window of opportunity is closing fast. And as good as Monte Ball is, I think they miss Moreno more than they care to admit. Hell we did too.
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LOL we are in agreement that I think his regular seasons always meant more to him then his postseasons. You would see him go on 5-8 game streaks of just killer football where he is thrashing teams/running up the score/stats, but as soon as postseason hits, its like he relies on his running game or defense to win the games all of the sudden.
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I think he has a farewell tour in 2015, been fun watching him play.
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there were throws today that he missed that even 3 years ago he makes in his sleep. i think he will retire and call it a career and maybe begins to think about getting into coaching, with his brain i think he would make a great OC in the very least.
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Here's a little blurb from Deadspin about Denver. There's a mildly interesting bit from Manning's press conference, which I missed:
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There's good news for us as Miami Fans too if he retires. Obviously, Denver is gonna take a hit overall as Osweiler has to develop still which opens up a potential playoff spot for Miami to take! Go Phins!
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I really hope he comes back for one more year. He's this generation's Dan Marino and I'd like to see him get one more ring.
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He should keep playing until no one is willing to pay him $10m+ per year.
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My all time favorite non-Fin. First player jersey I ever owned (and still own) was a Tennessee #16 while I was in college there and he was the star of college football.
That being said, I think that its best that he hangs em up and calls it a career. His play at times this season has reminded me of Marino's last season when he'd clearly lost something. -
"Broncos QB Peyton Manning played Sunday’s Divisional Playoff loss and the past month of the season with a torn right quad, per two sources." - Adam Schefter
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From what I saw yesterday, I have to believe that Manning needs to hang it up and call it a career. His passes had no zip on them and he obviously doesn't have the arm strenght he had just a few years ago.
If he comes back next year, it will only be for the money IMO. I just don't see him having the capability of winning another Super Bowl at this stage of his career and that was the only reason the Broncos signed him in the first place.
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If its just a right quad then he can recover from it just fine...
But the problem then shifts to the Broncos' salary cap.
Wes Welker and Demarius Thomas both need extensions and will command big money. There are other key players that I cant think on the top of my head that also need extensions. And theyre in cap hell, they cant sign them, they mortgaged their future with their spending spree last offseason.
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It's like you said, since mid November, Peyton suddenly started to suck. He was playing great prior to that KC chiefs game. From what Schefter is reporting, the injury was pretty bad. Which explains why he looked so un Peyton like. Hopefully he heals and comes back.
As for Denver, they'll be fine. They've got an estimated $33 million dollars in cap room if $141 million holds true (it will be higher most likely) before they even make any roster moves. They can sign Julius Thomas pretty easily. Then they can either sign or franchise Thomas for 12.8m. As far as Welker is concerned, they'll let him walk. He's damaged goods at this stage of his career. He was practically non existent all year. Who knows, maybe they'll bring in Reggie Wayne cheap and let him play in the slot.
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Pretty sure that no way no how Manning goes out with his former team and the QB tney dumped him for beating him like a drum in his own backyard.
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Pretty sexy for the media to call for a player to retire. They were essentially doing it to Brady after the KC game. now they are on his **** again. Now they do it to Peyton. Who was clearly not the same after the quad injury. This knee jerk conjecture is highly annoying.
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They're just pining for Farve. He was good for two or three retirement stories a year.Clark Kent likes this.