Is Ryan Tannehill Going to Become a Franchise QB?

That bottom group is pretty lacking.

 

It's nice work, Shou.
I just think it's nonsense.
I refuse to buy into stat that stats Hartline, Bess and Avery are better players than Reggie Wayne, which is exactly what it is trying to tell me. Isn't it?

 

Sorry not the original post.
Post #18.

 

No, you are seeking the incorrect answer by asking a loaded question. That is not logic. That is not proof. That is simply an inverted means of issuing a prejudged statement which supports your previously displayed position. You would have lost a point or several in debate.

 

Or you could do yds per game, so lets see how they compare over their careers

Name TD #Rec TD to Rec..............................YPG
Bess 12 321 26.75.................................44.8
Hartline 06 183 30.50................................45.9

C. Johnson 54 488 9.04..................................85.2
Jennings 53 425 8.02..................................68.1
Finley 17 198 11.65................................38.8
Wayne 78 968 12.41.................................69.1
Hilton 7 50 7.14.................................57.4
Wallace 32 235 7.34.................................64.2
Bowe 39 415 10.64..............................65.1
Jones 18 133 7.39................................74.4
A. Johnson 56 818 14.61...............................81.6(crazy)
Gronkowski 38 187 4.92 (INSANE!!!!)...............61.9
Green 18 162 9.00................................77.6

I don't know about you but the evidence is mounting that our starting WR were pretty much average. They do some nice things but they are not play makers. In fact this was the only year those two came close to the rest, so if Tanny could do that for them just think what he could do with real play makers? Make me excited to know he is our QB of the future!!!!

 

Yeah, like you don't post in threads where you disagree with premise.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain this stat in regards to an individual player and how there's no subjectivity involved.

 

I don't know, since it hasn't been explained sufficiently yet. I swear to god, this is like beating my head against a wall.

Do you or do not understand the word "explanation"?

How do you assign a given number to a given play to a QB or WR?

 

Its assigned to both. Anyone that is directly involved in the play.

 

Right, I know, how does that translate to the QB/WR's WPA? How does it apply to WR who just flat out dropped the ball and the QB who did everything perfectly or vice versa?

 

Why are you purposely being difficult?

 

I'm curious to know how they determine what the players assignment actually was.

 

Easy answer is I hope so.

 

If you can't answer these questions, then how can you back the stat?

 

What exactly does it predict?

 

Win Probability Added (WPA) – The difference between a team’s Win Probability (WP) at the start of a play and the WP at the end of the play. WPA is the measure of a play’s impact on the outcome of a game. An individual player’s WPA is the sum of the WPA of the plays in which that player was directly involved. Being directly involved is defined as an offensive player who ran, threw, or kicked the ball, was targeted by a pass, or flagged for a penalty. Defensive players are credited for WPA when they tackle or sack the ball carrier, are credited with an assisted tackle or sack, cause a fumble, defend a pass, or are flagged for a penalty.

 

Career passer rating. Did you even read the OP???

 

I got a chance to interview Shou (not really).

This is what I found out.

[video=youtube;Mjb82ORfWu0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjb82ORfWu0&feature=youtu.be[/video]

 

How?

2011 Cam Newton had a 2.05
2012 Cam Newton had a 3.14
What precisely about the 2011 number predicted his increase?

2011 Christian Ponder had a -.61
2012 Christian Ponder had a 1.60
What precisely about the 2011 number predicted his increase?

2011 Eli Manning had a 3.96
2012 Eli Manning had a 2.44
What precisely about the 2011 number predicted his decrease?

Speaking of Eli, does his 2011 WPA of 3.96 predict he'd beat Tom Brady's 6.63 for the Lombardi?

It doesn't seem to predict anything at this point, whether for rooks or vets.

 

I'll ask again, how does a dropped pass score for the QB and for the WR? Let's say it is 3rd & 7, down by 5, with 50 sec left, the pass would have been for 20 yrd gain and got them across the 50.

 

Did you not understand my post?

 

So Cam Newton's career number will be about 2.05?

 

Ah I see.

Direct question, deflected. Clearly this stat is the greatest thing ever, so great questions can't be directly answered about it to those who are unworthy.

 

2.05 equals 84.5 career?