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Is Vontae Davis an option at FS?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Trowa, Sep 11, 2009.

  1. Trowa

    Trowa A world of pain

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    This isn't a thread to bash Gibril Wilson or Yeremiah Bell so please don' take it there. That being said, I'm still uncertain we're going to get the level of play we expect out of our FS position. I'm also not sold on Vontae Davis as our nickel back. I know Vontae isn't the tallest or the fastest guy, but those of you who know more about him that me, do you think there's a chance we'll see him at FS this season, and do you think he can succeed at that position?
     
  2. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well, Vontae is really fast, and a good tackler so a move to FS would not surprise but Y Bell and G Wilson are likely to be our Safeties for the next 3 years, so any move would require an injury to one or the other, and we have Chris Clemons as a back up.
     
  3. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    The chance of VD at FS this season is about .000001%.
     
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  4. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    I think Smith, being 6'4, would be a better option at FS. But face it, were stuck with Wilson/Culver this year.
     
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  5. NaboCane

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    Clemons could start at Safety before the season's out.

    But not Davis.
     
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  6. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I was actually hoping Smith was intended to play FS for us when we picked him. Seemed to make sense with taking vontae a round earlier.

    Obviously smith has proven he is more than capable at Cb, but i STILL think he'd be a better safety. His size, his ball skills, playing center field? come on, whose going deep on a 6'4 safety? NOBODY, thats who.

    I'll settle for smith being one of the best cbs in league...i guess
     
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  7. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Ask Pat Watkins I bet he could tell you.
     
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  8. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Are you using a 5th rounder as a basis for why Sean Smith couldn't do it? If I were Smith, i'd be insulted.
     
  9. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'm using another 6'4" guy as a basis of who can go deep on such a player. I never mentioned draft status or that Sean Smith couldn't do it. I was just saying Pat would know who would be willing to go deep on a 6'4" safety.

    And Pat at least has experience at S, unlike Smith who is still new to the cb position.
     
  10. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    i just googled the dude. i have no idea who is. Although im instantly intrigued. Has he been any good?
     
  11. Stitches

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    He was arguably ok early on, but he has been on the bubble in Dallas recently.
     
  12. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Zach Thomas is available. Mayeb we could sign him to play Free Safety...
     
  13. PerfectTeam

    PerfectTeam Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Davis could move to safety in the latter part of his career because of his physicality but I don't know if he has the instincts for it. As for Smith playing S, CK has touched on it many times and it just isn't happening anytime soon. Like CK said, the guy has only played on defense a couple of years and now your trusting him to make the right coverage calls from the back end? Let him be a boundary corner where he has definitely shown a lot of promise and then later in his career after he develops a better understanding of the game you could move him to safety.
     
  14. PerfectTeam

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    He is better at strong safety. It would take advantage of his hitting ability better.
     
  15. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    we've already got two linebackers starting at safety, BA-ZING!
     
  16. NaboCane

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    Watkins is 6'5" BTW.
     
  17. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    we have chris clemons who looked great for a rookie. why are we talking about moving a promising cb to a position that will probably be in great hands for the next ten years
     
  18. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    While were at it, we could give Juan Huron a try at FS...
     
  19. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    We needed a ball hawk to pair with Y Bell......we didn't get one.

    Regardless of the money spent on the position already, we may be forced to address it again next off season. That would hurt..
     
  20. Bpk

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    Let's Assess Vontae and Sean as Safeties then...


    Vontae Davis

    Pro's: Very fast, athletic, quick change of direction, aggressive hitter/tackler, plays better coming forwards with things in front of him.

    Con's: Bites on playaction, double moves, and misdirection very aggressively and gets out of position, plays better coming forwards, which is a problem if chasing WRs on deep routes. Rookie.



    Sean Smith

    Pro's: Tall, great vertical leap and hands for interceptions, size.

    Con's: Doesn't hit as aggressively as his size would suggest, limited knowledge of defensive coverage calls after converting from wide-receiver only a couple of years ago. Rookie.


    To me, neither one is well-suited to being a great safety at this point. I think Vontae, once he gets older and more experienced, could become a good safety if his skill-set at CB begins to diminish. I would only put Sean Smith at Free Safety and he'd need to be paired with a real hitter at SS for run support. I don;t think he's ideal in our system as it requires both safeties be strong against the run.
     
  21. azfinfanmang

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    You forgot Davis' Pro of being able to smack players who have called for a fair catch.....or is that a Con :shifty:
     
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