Jason Allen waived

"Zod wrote:

EDIT

JASON ALLEN WAS ON THE FIELD DURING THE RAVENS PUNT

I kept thinking that I should check that before I threw him under THAT bus. I just checked the DVR and I repeat, Jason Allen was on the field.

Now the question is who was suppose to be on the other side? There were only 10 men on the field. Bess came up from his receiving spot to cover.

I believe sapp

"ToddsPhins wrote:

So are you disagreeing that this regime doesn't have a cutthroat mentality?

You would have to define "cutthroat". They do what they have to do, if that means cutting someone because they suck, then so be it. But they will always be straightforward with players, and aren't going to play any games.

I don't think it really applies to this case, one way or another though.

Could it be a cost thing? Maybe they didn't want to pay JA for just being on special teams.

"SICK wrote:

I believe sapp

Hold on...... It will not take me long to check the previous game.

nate ness

Im a bit shocked. I figured it would be Sapp on his way out since we signed Harris. But I guess that would indicate to everyone that the FO really dropped the ball on the Camarillo/Sapp trade then. Can't have that now can we? Hope thats not the case. I didn't think Jason Allen was anywhere near as bad as Benny Sapp has been this year.

"brandon27 wrote:

Im a bit shocked. I figured it would be Sapp on his way out since we signed Harris. But I guess that would indicate to everyone that the FO really dropped the ball on the Camarillo/Sapp trade then. Can't have that now can we? Hope thats not the case. I didn't think Jason Allen was anywhere near as bad as Benny Sapp has been this year.

If their egos were really that big that they would risk their jobs to not admit a mistake, they would have not cut guys like turner.

"HardKoreXXX wrote:

These moves seem desperate to me. Very desperate...almost people are afraid to lose their jobs desperate...

Yeahbutwhat? The mildly surprising release of a player is desperate...how?

There's really no evidence that the coaching staff besides maybe Dan Henning has any real need to be concerned about their job status, either.

HardKoreXXX wrote:

So hold up...we straight up waive the guy with the most INT's on the team and arguably our best special teams player?

Makes total sense. No, it really does... except that you're a team THAT CAN'T GET PICKS AND SUCKS ON SPECIAL TEAMS.

Just as a head up, Jason Allen is currently tied for 17th(with 30+ other players) in Special Teams coverage tackles on the Dolphins with a grand total of 0. He is credited with a single missed tackle.

I checked one other thing. It's Jonathan Amaya. Amaya took Smith's spot in dime package. When we were in dime, Smith came in as the extra DB while Jason Allen was playing corner. Amaya seems to have taken over that role for Smith.

Jason Allen didn't sniff the field in the last game with the exception of special teams.

"Zod wrote:

punt team assignment

I must have missed it, I don't remember hearing anything about him from that game. Was he the one who was supposed to cover the gunner who went completely uncovered?

wha??? yea thats a bit of a surprise to me even though im not a fan of allen i thought it would be sapp that got the papers.is it because sapp is doing more on st's or that he doesn't fall on his face every time he makes a cut?

"Stringer Bell wrote:

You would have to define "cutthroat". They do what they have to do, if that means cutting someone because they suck, then so be it. But they will always be straightforward with players, and aren't going to play any games.

I don't think it really applies to this case, one way or another though.

We'll agree to disagree. I'm not concerned with how the coaches or FO "do it". I'm only looking at how it affects the guys on the team. Are players here becoming so fearful of losing their jobs that it's affecting their performance? We haven't exactly played slop-free ball all year in any facet of the game. Just curious if there's a correlation. For Pete sake we use a friggin horn in practice to control the QB.

wow. was his contract high?

"SeanP wrote:

I must have missed it, I don't remember hearing anything about him from that game. Was he the one who was supposed to cover the gunner who went completely uncovered?

Read on...... I fully corrected myself. To answer your question: It was Nate Ness.

Ah they gave JA the starting job to see how he would do in that role. I'm sure they were hoping they could trade him before the deadline.
He couldn't keep his feet under him and failed.
We don't have a juggernaut on ST's so it's a bit surprising on that front but the guy is nothing special.
Not shocked by the move.

"arsenal wrote:

why is everyone in this thread saying Allen was at fault on the fake punt? he was covering the other gunner, watch the play
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81bebd0b/Ravens-covert-on-fake-punt

i agree,hasn't it already been stated tht sapp was the one that was supposed to be there but he walked off the field?

"adamprez2003 wrote:

wow. was his contract high?

With 8 games to go, I think it was about 700k?

But I guess that would indicate to everyone that the FO really dropped the ball on the Camarillo/Sapp trade then. Can't have that now can we?

Maybe so but as Unlucky said, these guys cut White and Turner fairly quick along with other pickups like Gibril. I don't think the FO minds admitting when they goof and moving on.

"m ino wrote:

i agree,hasn't it already been stated tht sapp was the one that was supposed to be there but he walked off the field?

NATE NESS was the other coverage person versus the Bengals. Nate Ness was not on the field versus the Ravens.

"adamprez2003 wrote:

wow. was his contract high?

:dunno: but maybe Ricky knows. What's that gotta do with anything? :shifty:

Good ridance

"padre31 wrote:

Clemons has dropped two interceptions that led to 14 pts in the last two weeks, if JA can be waived, why couldn't Clemons be benched for Jones?

Difference is Clemons is more and more getting in perfect position to make plays .... while Allen was routinely beaten like a drum the past few weeks when he played.

"ToddsPhins wrote:

We'll agree to disagree. I'm not concerned with how the coaches or FO "do it". I'm only looking at how it affects the guys on the team. Are players here becoming so fearful of losing their jobs that it's affecting their performance? We haven't exactly played slop-free ball all year in any facet of the game. Just curious if there's a correlation. For Pete sake we use a friggin horn in practice to control the QB.

I don't disagree necessarily. I'm just saying IMO Allen was cut because he didn't want to be here, and that it was agreed upon prior to the season.

I'm willing to bet that he was acting like a biatch about being benched and he probably dogged it on special teams in practice....

"DolfanTom wrote:

Difference is Clemons is more and more getting in perfect position to make plays .... while Allen was routinely beaten like a drum the past few weeks when he played.

Clemons failure in the Bengals game led to TO scoring a TD, his failure in the Ravens game to come up with the Int in the endzone allowed the drive to produce a TD.

It is not enough to merely bat the ball down, you also have to make the play on the ball especially at Free Safety