UDFA pool has some solid possible returners. I think it also depends on the cost compared to say a Darren Sproles.

 

EDIT: Dolphins interested in Reggie Bush[s' ex GF Kim Kardashian].

Duh.

 

One would require a STD test, the other a huge bar tab, you tell me?

Not saying which is which either..

:lol:

 

I'd welcome Reggie to the team without question. I don't think he'll cost as much as some think, he'll probably draw more than Darren Sproles but deservingly so, IMO.

Three things Reggie Bush can do for Miami:

1. Big plays, big plays, big plays. We need big plays.
2. Add some lightning to the backfield. Thomas' running style is similar to Ronnie Brown, we need a change of pace guy.
3. Take Davone Bess off punt returns to focus solely on being a receiver. I love Bess, but a good punt returner he is not.

 

Well, there is the problem Deej, adding a Sproiles means Gates is out of work, if we add anyone to help ST think Tim Shaw of the titans, certified ST hoss.

Another name to watch out for is Scott McKillop, Fipp coached him in SF and he is also a ST hoss.

 

Like I mentioned in the other thread, there's really not a whole lot of reason for Reggie Bush to be anything other than what he was in New Orleans. He didn't suffer from misuse, he's not in the wrong blocking scheme, and he's not got a lack of talent around him.

Reggie Bush isn't really someone who is good enough to share a workload like the coaching staff will want. He's someone you target if you have a known, reliable workhorse back who you know can handle 250 or so carries and be productive.

 

Reggie Bush? Do want, either as part of a two man or a three man rotation. Wouldn't mind seeing a RBBC setup where the workhorse alternates depending on series or whichever is hot, but Bush is always the #2.

 

hmmmm

 

Excellent point DJ. Ronnie and Ricky leaving takes 8+ million off the books and DThomas will earn around 500-600k. That leaves us w/ at least 7 million to work w/. Outside of Green Bay (who never spends big on UFAs), Indy (ditto), Cincy (ditto), Washington (Shanahan is known for using low cost RBs), who's going to be in the market to spend big on a RB? I think we are in a great position, perhaps w/ a chance to choose whoever we want w.o having to outbid other teams. If that's the case, DeAngelo Williams come on down.

I'm tempted to start my "what if we sign Deangelo?" thread but I wanna save it until I'm reeaaaalllly fiending for football.

 

I don't really think anyone has ever mentioned Reggie Bush coming in as a full-time back (or even starting for that matter). Maybe I'm wrong, but I cannot imagine anyone wanting him as their main guy.

 

Is that some sort of inside joke, you and DJ always misspelling Sproles?

 

:sidelol: Well with Stitches not being around much lately, I gotta do the work of 2, and I was concerned too some younger fans may begin to copy you. ;)


BTW, I'd rather Sproles over Reggie Bush, because he is also very durable. 1 game missed in 4 yrs, while Reggie has missed 20 in that span.

 

SUPERBOWL all the way, the kardashians are way overrated, especially the fat one lamar odom is married to

 

padre has lots of shortcuts for all of us in here

 

Well you have to figure at this point in the game we have to investigate all possibilities as once free agency begins names will be flying off the board. Think of it as the 2011 Draft 2.0 as all teams have had ample time to indicate needs and potential candidates. I just hope RB is one of the top priorities and we get who we are really targeting. I think Bush might be on the list but as Option #3 or lower.

 

I'm not talking full time. I'm talking half-time, splitting carries. I don't think he merits that.

 

We definitely need a speed guy in the backfield and this report should not surprise us.

Sproles would seem to be the top choice as he is much more durable, has a lower center of gravity and is even more versatile than Bush (who doesn't return kickoffs). He also has less than half as many carrier carries as Bush (goes to wear).

That said, Sproles is two years older (28) and, partially because he has been franchised in the past, is going to want a bigger contract IMO.

I don't think Sproles really has much effect on Gates. But I do think Gates could effect Sproles. IMO, a preferred course of action might be to have Gates be the kickoff guy and save Sproles 50 or so touches a season. Either way, Gates is being counted on in the offense, so I don't feel he'd be out of a job so to speak.

 

I don't want Bush as even the #2 option at RB. Bush is simply not a very good running back. I love his skillset but he's a better WR/KR/PR then RB. If we sign Bush we should still sign another back who can take 20 carries should Thomas get hurt. Yes, I am saying Bush and either Williams or Bradshaw or Michael Bush. Bush is a terrible between the tackles runner. Should something happen to Thomas and Bush is the #2 back, we would be up the creek without a paddle as they say.

 

Let me ask this question why cant we keep Ronnie cut Hilliard and just sign DeAngelo Williams then our rb corp cold look like this.
1. D.Williams

2. Ronnie B

3. Thomas

4. Cobbs


I know Ronnie gets injured some but hell he could have done a great job if the idiots calling the plays would have let him run the ball and not this stupid wildcat stuff. this only my opion because i hate the possiblity of Ronnie going to the jets or the patriots and then winning a super bowl. that would kill me.

 

I really hope Ireland makes a strong move to get Bush. Gonna take some very interesting decision-making. We'll probably have to make some big concessions; just hope we dong surrender too much just for Bush.

Too bad Bush is such a hot commodity everywhere else; it's gonna be really tough.

Either way, depending on how spread this offense is next year, we could be getting a lot of Bush.

 

I wish that we could keep Ronnie and just cut Hilliard and then bring in DeAngelo Williams and Sproles . my hope was to have Ronnie win a super bowl with us instead of him going to our rivials.

it would be cool ,but unlikely to have a runningbck squad of Sproles, Brown, Williams and Thomas and maybe cobbs .

my take on this issue is Ronnie was sabatoged by Dan Henning who was obsessed with using the wildcat ;so how can our backs perform with a situation ?

 

I agree with this for the most part. Not a big fan of this, if it happens.

Would rather target DeAngelo Williams, Ahmad Bradshaw, Michael Bush or Darren Sproles.

 

Nope. We only support naturally big asses. See JLo and those two tennis amazons.

 

Because there's no way in hell you can justify a 2nd round pick for a #3 back, Ronnie Brown isn't likely to do particularly well in about half of what is likely the run-game playbook next year.

 

Its not much different than what your suggesting. You want 1 of those 4. Im saying I want Bush + one from Williams, M Bush and Bradshaw. I just dont like Sproles and I think the comments by Sparano indicate the same sentiment.

I think Sproles has a more limited dynamic then Bush. As bad as Bush is between the tackles, I dont think Sproles is any better. But I do think Bush is a better WR and I think in that capacity we could really have a field day with him. He should be used in a role like Eric Metcalf was used by the Browns years ago. he should be a WR primarily but handle the ball as a KR/PR as well as a couple times during the game on sweeps or Off Tackle runs. Let him make plays in space.

 

By not dancing and using whatever mediocre vision he had to pick a lane and go with it?

 

Bush is an East-West runner, not a North-South runner. What they'd probably have in mind signing Bush would be him running Ricky Williams' fly sweep role in the Wildcat. And that pisses me off. I'm really getting sick of the Wildcat. Something that's 10 percent of our offense AT BEST, bleeds way too much into our personnel decisions.

 

I like Michael Bush too, but he's a a Daniel Thomas type back anyway. I'd rather get Ricky Williams on the cheap to be the second back and bring in a Sproles Bradshaw, or R.Bush to be the change of pace. Either way, we need a back up for D.Thomas anyway.

The most attempts Sproles got in a year was 93 (68 att/year average over last three years).

Ahmad Bradshaw makes the most sense. His most attempts was 276 of last year (77 att/year average over last three years). He's proven he can be a work horse and change of pace back.

If we don't get Bradshaw, we're going to have to get two running backs anyway, IMO. One to back up Daniel Thomas, and one change of pace / scatback. So then it becomes a choice between Sproles and R.Bush.

 

Definitely true as far as how it factors in our personnel decisions. However, I like the way the offense is shaping up this year. If we added Bush and D Williams, Bradshaw or M Bush then Henne (or any other QB) really does have every weapon they should need.

 

We have too many slot receivers as it is. Davone Bess is a slot receiver. Brandon Marshall always did great work from the slot and the best way to utilize him is to move him around to get good matchups. Brian Hartline was a slot receiver at Ohio State and has been good from the slot in Miami. Heck, probably the quickest and most effective way to get Edmond Gates involved in the offense could be getting him in the slot and running vertical routes in situations where he's less likely to get pressed.

I don't want another slot receiver. Reggie Bush isn't a "terror" to anyone, except maybe USC. There's a reason the Saints gave up an arm and a leg to get Mark Ingram.

Darren Sproles hasn't had a lot of action in his career, only 249 carries, but he was a 4th rounder where Reggie Bush was a top pick. For Reggie to be as minor part of the offense as he's been from a running standpoint, that's been a huge disappointment. Sproles has averaged 4.6 yards per carry in his career, which includes 4.5 yards per carry on 1st & 2nd down, 4.5 yards per carry running "left", "right" and "middle" (as opposed to "wide left" and "wide right").

And for whatever this is worth to you, PFF gives Reggie Bush a +0.2 rating over the last three years in the "Rush" category, versus a +3.6 rating for Darren Sproles. Sproles will probably come cheaper, and arguably gives you more Reggie Bush than Reggie Bush.

 

IMO Sproles is a much better runner than Bush is and almost as good of a receiver out of the backfield. The only advantage that makes Bush more desirable is his age. However, I also think that most teams know this so that Sproles will be a much hotter commodity. I think there will be several more teams bidding for Sproles compared to the attention Bush will draw.

 

Your point on Ingram is acknowledged and I agree with that. Thats why I said I dont like either Sproles or Bush as a back. I know their YPC averages. They are specialist types though and should be used accordingly.

In my opinion Sproles actually fetches more cash on the open market because hes less injury risk and coming off being franchised.

Also, I dont believe you can have too many players who can catch the ball. Yes, ideally you would want a more proven Flanker but Metcalf played a lot of Flanker in his career which is how I would use Bush. Let him extend the field and get him out wide in space. I wouldnt use him as a slot receiver at all. I dont think his skillset really lends itself to that anyway. When I watch Bush play, I kind of want to get him in 1-1 situations on the perimeter of the field.

 

Not to split hairs, but that paragraph doesn't provide any substantial evidence we have an interest in Reggie Bush. It's just a source of Jason Cole speculating it. Hell, I could ask my next-door neighbor the same thing. Even he can see we need speed on offense.