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Hopefully nothing major but once ou get one concussions seem to happen more often. We need a health Ajayi ALL 16 games!!! Hope hes well and just a scare.
Miami Dolphins running back Jay Ajayi is being evaluated for a concussion after making an early exit from Monday's practice session, coach Adam Gase said.
Ajayi was seen walking with team trainers to the locker room during the morning practice session, and he didn't return to the field.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...roundup-jay-ajayi-under-concussion-evaluation
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TJ McD was laying the lumber today and Ajayi is a physical runner... he knocked Timmons' helmet off at one point.
Gase had them at full speed because of how poor the tackling was last year. This stuff happens. Hopefully, Ajayi is ok and can return.
Drake was lively today as the #2 and also involved in the upscuttle that broke out. Williams also had some nice plays including a 20+ yard TD. No point in over reacting right now.shula_guy and P h i N s A N i T y like this. -
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Happy to see Gase is doing something about the poor tackling. Carol brought in a coach just to teach tackling. I'm pretty sure it's rugby style tackling but it worked for them, their tackling improved and they are avoiding the "leading with the helmet" penalties. Clean form tackles vanished with the onset of highlight shows, I miss them. I would love to see Defenders just making tackles, then lining up for the next play and do it again without the show after every play.
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No excuse for helmet to helmet contact in practice on running backs..enforce stricter rules, assess fines on your own players, change the rules league wide so every team is playing by the same rules..enforce a wrap and roll technique league wide in practice..
And if teams can't figure it out, the league should step in and say there is no more tackling to the ground in practice, that way every player and their team has the same rust when the games begin.. -
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Screw that. They have to tackle. It's the NFL for god's sake. These daffodils need to toughen up. Oh boohoo the millionaires get injured. No one is making them be NFL players. There are risks. Don't want the health risks then go play MLB. Want to be an NFL player, might goof up your life in later years. They know the risks. They have to tackle. I'm fed up with the quality of the game being reduced because they want make a bajillion dollars but need to be safe.
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Study done on repeat concussions:
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I'm not really one to normally affix blame to a problem without presenting a solution but when it comes to the poor level of defensive tackling in the NFL today need only look to Lawrence Taylor as the reason.
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It's because NFL players are wearing bowling balls on the tops of their heads.
http://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...ts-take-racing-expertise-to-football-helmets/
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Sucks that it happened to Ajayi, but there has to be live hitting during Training camp. They need to prepare their bodies for the actual season.
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Simply enforce wrap and roll techniques league wide..strict practice rules on using the head..fines if they are compromised..shoulder on down target points and that's it.Puka-head and cuchulainn like this. -
Ok look, apparently my post above regarding Lawrence Taylor was completely overlooked because some of the posts that have followed are confusing "tackling" with "hitting"...which is why I lay fault with defenses today on Lawrence Taylor.
Hitting is not tackling. Now granted, prior to Lawrence Taylor coming into the league there were hard nosed defenders that were and still are legendary...Jack Lambert, Joe Greene, Ed Jones and of course Dick Butkus but Lawrence Taylor took the "hit" to new levels. He was fearsome, ferocious, hard hitting. He was the epitome of the adage knocking your dick in the dirt...and as a result, anyone who played defense wanted to be Lawrence Taylor, but that's the problem. Over the years, defenders have abandoned the art of actual tackling...they simply DON'T tackle anymore.
How many games have we all watched in which we've SCREAMED at defenders to "get him"..."tackle him"...watched defenders HIT the running back or wide receiver and he hasn't gone down? That's because no one (for the most part) knows HOW to tackle anymore. All the know how to do is to "hit" players and expect that hit to knock them to the ground. Well, that AIN'T tackling!
I have no issue at all with the Dolphins being in pads and tackling during training camp however, I would really like it if the defense learns HOW to tackle and be able to stop plays dead in their tracks so I won't be screaming at the defenders for letting a 3 yard play turn into a 15 yard gain simply because he's trying to make ESPN's highlight reel. -
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The incident happened during a non-live tackling period. Even TJ said this. TJ also said he did kind of want to pop Ajayi, but it still was during a non-live period.
Basically, TJ was confused because it was tackle day. But the period was "non-tackle". TJ admitted he wanted to thump Ajayi.
The only fault is on the staff. There needs to be better communication during these periods. It happened. I think Ajayi will be okay.
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From the video - "We have found that we can practise a drill like tracking without pads or helmets..."
"According to the PBS "Frontline" Concussion Watch, four Seahawks defensive players have sustained reported concussions in the past three years. Only three teams have had fewer, and the league average has been 7.03.
The Seahawks have led the NFL in scoring defense in each of the past four seasons, and sound tackling has been a huge part of their success. They've limited opposing ball carriers to an average of 1.5 yards after contact over the past three seasons, fifth best. And they've held receivers to an average of 4.38 yards after the catch, tops in the NFL."
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I played Rugby when I was young. True Rugby tackling has more of a wrap up in it because the ball carrier is always at risk of lateraling a pass to another player, something you can pretty well ignore in NFL. Also the comparative lack of padding/protection reduces the ability of the tackler to attack the ball carrier the same way as NFL players do.
But the basic method the Seahawks use is based on solid Rugby technique. Hit with the shoulder, wrap the arms, then drive through with the legs
I would disagree slightly about NFL defenders wanting to hit, not tackle - which is true. However, too many NFL players want to dish out the hit, but not take any punishment in return. For example lok at the number of people who bounced off Jay Ajayi last year.. I'm no athlete but I was very good at tackling, and the key to being good is a willingness to take the hit from the runner in order to make the tackle. In Rugby its the not the biggest or strongest guys who are the best tacklers, it is the most fearless. Technique is the second most important thing.Puka-head likes this.