What did he say about Thigpen?

 

Good info Pappy. I love when you post stuff like this, since I do not follow twitter.
This one caught my eye the most:

Something no one has touched on previously, that I've seen. Not being able to sign UDFAs right after the draft, gives teams extra time to evaluate them some more. When the time comes that they can be signed, it's going to be like a 2nd draft, but in free for all fashion.

 

Might be talking about Abe Froman.

 

I am guessing the Florida player to be CB Janoris Jenkins who was kicked off the team for repeated pot possesion.

He is a very talented player .

The Ohio state player could be Terrell Pryor

 

I would take Jenkins for a 5th :yes:

Cb may not be a big need but in this league you can never have enough good ones. Put Will Allen or Benny Sapp at Safety if need be.

 

Interesting bit with Jimmy Wilson at Safety. Going to be a lot of competition there.

 

I like it. We are potentially 5 deep at Cb with SS24, VD, Allen, Carroll, and Sapp. Now we are looking at Wilson as either FS or SS to give Clemons competition most likely (since Jones was brought in last year for Bell long term)

 

I love that Ireland has the staffs divided between pro and college FA. When football resumes and the BS stops things are going to happen really quickly as teams try and prepare for the season. There will two classes of teams: those who prepared for the post draft FA's and pro fa's and those who only focused on one or the other. Ireland is an excellent GM. I kid you not, he will win a SB as a GM one day soon.

 

we could be relatively 'deep' at CB, assuming Will Allen regains form. So floating a late rounder for a high reward - high risk type like Jenkins actually makes sense. If it works, he's a steal. If not, no big deal

Pryor though? Goodness, Ireland must see something no one else sees. If you are set on that sort of quarterback, go get Vince Young for peanuts and hope for the best. The learning curve for Pryor is excessively steep, and compounded by the fact that we have a green QB coach.

 

One has to imagine Herlizch is in that discussion somewhere. He can play in the 3-4, and is a high character guy and has all the other intangibles, but probably needs to 'redshirt'. I would feel a scout isn't doing their job if they don't jump on the table at this stage.

 

He sees Pryor as the next Brad Smith/Matt Jones/Slash type? I read a GM describe Pryor as a running back or WR in the NFL. That sounds about right. Hes not a QB

 

Meh, I don't think this regime has ever jumped at anyone in the supplemental, if they do it'll kinda signal to me they're getting desperate. However, UDFA is where Ireland shines. I expect him to bring in a lot of undrafted skill players ala Noel Devine and Jeff Maehl.

 

Padre, you forgot Karlos Dansby in the LB unit kind of. Dobbins is listed twice.

I'd still like them to take a chance on a Mario Addison or Keith Darbut at OLB.

 

:pity:

 

oooooh, i like to hear me some of that kind of stuff now.

 

Also AJ Edds, Moses and Dansby. I'd like for them to look at Herzlich and Mario Harvey.

BTW here's some recent AJ Edds video:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/videobeta/?watchId=363e71da-8b41-4f19-ba72-f11f4492939b

 

The Sausage King of Chicago :lol:

 

He needs to win a playoff game 1st. See if he can put a team on the field that can win a playoff game before annointing him the next coming of a great GM.

 

The Sausage King of Chicago????

 

Not until he adequately addresses the QB position.

 

Really? We have to have yet another qb debate? I have my opinion of Henne, you have yours. I believe the QB position is likely to solve itself this season.

His job is to put the team together. Its the players job to go out and win games on the field. He is doing a very good job assembling the team. His role, first and foremost is talent acquisition. He's doing a very good job in that regard and I look for this team to continue to get stronger

 

Yeah, pushed off the roster. There's no point in doing a Matt Roth experiment when the player isn't able to use his size to make a positive impact in the run game, and Alama-Francis wasn't very good this year.

 

Well so far the results are far from overwhelming. 4 games over .500 and that is really bogus because we all know 2008 was a fluke. Putting all the blame on the players is not fair either, good GM's find the players that will win - PERIOD. He has yet to do that in any compelling way to make me think he is way better than the GM many teams around the league. In fact his misses on FA tell me he is not nearly the GM they have for some other teams.

 

You mentioned Henne, not me. If Henne improves this year then maybe Ireland already has addressed the QB situation. But if he doesn't, then the situation is not adequately addressed and Ireland won't win a superbowl until it is. Is that such a startling comment?

 

Jake, your better than calling our division championship year a fluke..

There's nothing flukie in the NFL..That team was disciplined, executed weekly at a high level, least amount of penalties in the league, and won 10 of 11 games..Sparano did a hell of a job inspiring a bunch of castoffs and leftovers to believe in themselves..

 

Omar has been thumping this for a while about Tony Sparano not trusting the man he benched twice and the Dolphins being of a mind to acquire someone big at that position. Omar likes Orton, then Vince Young, then I think Bulger.

 

A success in this context should be readily apparent. I'm not judging him on pass rush, or coverage, or anything like that. He's a 280 pound veteran player going against guys significantly smaller than him. It's a mismatch, there should have been at least some circumstances where he physically dominated them in the run game. And he wasn't very good in Detroit to boot. It's more likely he's just not very good than it is he's transitioning.

Next. Go with Phillip Merling, or someone else.

 

This probably should have been mentioned in the Matt Moore threads from a while ago, we talked about Ireland and Sparano's experience with Moore.

I didn't realize Karl Dorrell also has experience with Moore from UCLA. Moore was the QB there and I believe due to injuries was thrust into the starting job as a true freshman and won his first game. But it became clear (to him) during his first year that Dorrell didn't like him. He threatened to transfer and his dad talked him out of it. In his second year it became apparent that Dorrell was favoring Drew Olson. In fact, Moore overheard on the headset Dorrell saying as much to his offensive coordinator Steve Axman (I guess he didn't realize Moore was listening) during the USC game. Moore came into Dorrell's office and asked to be released from his scholarship, and even though it left UCLA thin at the position Karl didn't even really try and talk him out of it, just granted him the release.

Matt Moore swears there is no bad blood there, but really...how anxious do you imagine Moore would be to come down to Miami and have Karl Dorrell be his QB Coach overseeing another QB competition between Moore and the incumbent Chad Henne? He did that once in his career already, and it didn't work out well for him.

I don't imagine Karl Dorrell being all that excited about it either. He didn't see much talent in Moore's arm before, I doubt he's going to see any more now.

 

Wasn't he 1st on the depth chart at Sam when he contracted the same mystery illness as Jerry?

 

I agree. But if you have a concept in place, you don't let the media know it, unless you know everyone else is doing the same thing. You don't just give other teams a great idea...

 

I don't think that is unusual. All staffs, except maybe Cincy, have certain scouts who are exclusively college scouts. Then others who are pro scouts. It appears we have currently 8 college scouts and a director, and 2 pro scouts, 1 scouting assistant, an assistant director, as well as the director of player personnel guy. So 9 covering college and 5 covering pros. Also of course is Ireland himself.