What a dumbass POS..The thing i hate most about him is that we lost Incognito because of this blob.

 

Don't forget the overreacting media coverage. What an embarrassment that whole situation was.

 

Good thing they’re being proactive. Seems like a cry for help and attention, maybe they can prevent a psychotic event.

Dude needs some good weed and the outdoors.

 

It's not my first instinct to go against the guy who was "bullied" but it seems pretty obvious that Martin was overreacting to all of it. It's extremely telling that every Miami Dolphin from the 2013 season seemed to be behind Incognito.

That said, I hope Martin gets the help he needs.

 

He’s trying to make a statement. He’s a bright guy. Thinks he’s “misunderstood”. Kind of a dumb move on his part.

Freedom of speech or not, he shouldn’t have tagged a high school. Let it go, bro....

 

**** this bum. He fits the profile of someone who would go through with it. You have the stupidity to post revenge propaganda like this when you know you have some people that look up to you (however few at this point it may be) you deserve punishment. This is a terroristic threat that deserves sentencing and monitoring.

 

The attention seeking, phsyco path is back in the news going crazy and creating more turmoil trying to get attention... surprise.

I’m sure his little heart hurts because Richie Incognito is still making Pro Bowls while he has been out of the league for 3 years now. That’s gotta kill him inside.

 

Wow, the guy clearly suffers from some sort of mental illness. Glad they got to him before he could do anything life changing for so many. Hopefully he gets the help he needs to overcome whatever he's battling, even if it is just lingering feelings stemming from some of what he's apparently dealt with. Some of the comments here show just how far some in society need to come in regards to those suffering from they many forms of mental illness.

 

Honestly, I think when people like this make these kind of public threats, they are doing it so someone will stop them. It is about as loud a cry for help that they can make.

I hope he gets the help he needs. I hope everyone does.

 

Mental illness or not saying your options are suicide or revenge is just an a**hole move.

 

Really what he did glad the authorities got to him before he could had done something more terrible. As really the guy at first I felt bad for. But now glad that the Fins got rid of the jerk!

 

the guy should be sent to a mental institution and stay there until doctors deem him fit to be around the public. Dont take this lightly.

 

I did not approve of the way he got treated by our coaches and players and thought Incognito was a pos for the way he treated him. You cant transform someone into a tough guy, either you are or youre not.

The biggest POS though was not Incognito, it was Jim Turner with his blow up doll and gay jokes. I mean youre the coach, if the guy is a bust you simply tell Philbin look Philbin, this guy is not made for the NFL, he is soft he will have Tannehill carried out on a stretcher, dont play him any snaps unless there is an injury and then get rid of him next season.

So back to this topic.. i guess he still has a lot of stored up anger over it and has not been able to move on. He needs to get help, and he should not be released until the doctors deem him fit.

 

When bullygate blew up it was pretty apparent that this guy had issues with tissues. I hate the way this piece of work drug down the team with his crap. It's been what, 5 years? He's still psycho.. Apparently he didn't find the help he needed in all that time and the media shunned the Dolphins organization for not doing enough in the short time they realized something was off about him. We are owed an apology IMO..

 

I've been forced to learn more than I'd like about mental health and I think you're 100% wrong- this was not a plea for help. This was a guy saying that because he was bullied as a kid, he has the right to do whatever he wants to make himself feel better. And this time around, I think that thing was to go after Incognito and try to kill him.

I also think that this puts the entire Fins bullying thing into more perspective- you can see how he says, "Because this happened, I get to judge that differently." I don't think he was bullied any more than any other rookie lineman who is being pushed to perform- the guy is just a glorified sissy that chose football to feel like a man. He's clearly still a little boy though and I hope he gets his *** whipped in jail.

There's a definite pattern there- cry poor me and then run to mommy and daddy to file a lawsuit. The guy is clearly not right in the head- I'd guess bipolar. Only, his parents can't cover this up when he's the one bullying....I hope incognito sues him.

 

I saw a "motivational poster" once when I was in the army that read, "Just because you had a terrible childhood, doesn't give you permission to be a terrible adult" There was something about that poster that struck me and I believe its words to be true to this very day.

Jonathon Martin, perhaps you had a terrible childhood. Perhaps you were picked on and teased and made fun of...called a fatboy or stupid and never felt like you were good enough. Well guess what hero, so was I and so were so many of us but unlike many of us, we weren't blessed enough to get a college degree...or have the talent to play football at a high level, and further blessed enough to be able to play in the NFL and become an instant millionaire at the age of 22.

My advice to you is quite simple...grow the Eff up!!!!!!

 

I wonder how he was smart enough for Stanford but dumb enough to do this.

 

I think it is very possible he has an actual disorder.

IF he does, then telling him to get over it, snap out of it, grow up, etc. is like telling someone with Parkinson's to just stop shaking.

There are, of course, people who pity themselves and overreact to negative stimuli and all that advice is correct for them, but I think once you start making mass shooting threats, chances are you fall into a different category then someone who could just suck it up and put on the big boy pants.

I thought when Bullygate happened, that he was overreacting, but this is a different story than it was then.

 

Well said. My WAG is that there is likely to be a disorder at work here. Everybody has problems and reacts to them in different ways, but when the reaction becomes extreme enough to threaten a mass shooting then there's probably a disconnect there. A rational person who is capable of "just getting over it" would also be rational enough to realize that there are consequences to their actions. Threatening a mass shooting is going to have some very negative consequences.

 

The parents in this country need to look in the mirror because they are raising a bunch of self entitled ******* who can't handle anything that doesn't go the way the want it to.With all that's going on with these shootings and you pull this ****.
LocK him up and throw away the key!

 

I think you're 100% right, but there's also two sides to that coin....environment works two ways and this is a guy who's always been enabled by family wealth and power. When you or I were bullied (just like every other kid), we fought back through words or whatever. When Martin was bullied, he ran to his parents and said "fix this!" So instead of learning to deal with social challenges on his own, he learned that there was an "easy button" to make everything okay.

He did the exact same thing with the Dolphins- he didn't talk to coaches, the union or even the people making him uncomfortable. He just ran to mom and let her fight the fight because that's what he's always done. I'm not saying that Martin's parents are bad people, but they didn't prepare him for the real world and how to deal with conflict on his own. That combined with mental illness is the perfect storm for violence.

 

I can only speak for myself here, as someone who has been diagnosed with a laundry list of personality disorders throughout life. I think you're pretty spot on here, but I feel as though there is a perception that people like this, they're looking for other people to solve these issues ("fix this") when in their reality: there is no fix and they're merely seeking to avoid and dissociate from the situation entirely. This comes back to dealing with conflict yourself, as you alluded to, as well as well the lack of preparation in doing so during upbringing.

All that to say: Just because you come from a well off family, this doesn't mean it's been a crutch or any sort of comfort. It does make his apparent lack of seeking help more glaring though. For some like Martin, your "easy button" is just as shameful as whatever they're dealing with.

 

Exactly, I wasn't trying to imply that this is a wealth thing...although I think wealth and entitlement does play a factor in this exact instance.

With your personality disorders, you've inevitably been through counseling and therapy sessions to learn skills that help you deal with uncomfortable situations. That places the burden on you to know how to react, how to step away from bad situations, how to control your emotions, etc. Lots of kids don't learn that though for one reason or another- maybe a mom was too pampering and did everything for their kid. Or it could be the exact opposite; the parents did nothing and the person retracted from everything in life.

Learning the coping mechanisms is not necessarily a mental health thing and a perfectly sane person could have the same struggles- that's all I really meant. That issue just gets amplified when you do have some personality disorders.

I never thought about your last sentence though- it could be harder for someone mentally ill to "hit that easy button." My 19 year old has borderline personality and bipolar, so I'll be the first to tell you that it's incredibly hard for everyone involved. You get in situations where you see your teen self-destructing and the counselors say to stand your ground- force them to see the difference between right and wrong. It's easy to say but when you're standing there in person and knowing a complete meltdown is coming, it's a lot harder to actually do.

I'm about to start a thread in the Lounge area and I'd love your unique advice.