give him one more chance Killer..I really want to see what the elite athlete in optimum condition can do for us at that position.
Apologies. I did forget Blalock. I'd throw him in that mix as well, and I'd prefer him at LG over Incognito also.
well I know that, but my point was the variables he was battling did break him..remember, that was his first year starting, and there were some hi level sh%$y variables he was dealing with.. I have no idea why your laughing out loud when I say best arm in the game, i think if he wanted to, he can throw the ball farther and faster than just about anyone I think of, who is relevant in this game..
I study these interviews just like you..he wasn't sugarcoating anything when it came to Henne, the impression I got was that he was very impressed with how much of the playbook Henne had learned.
I have not seen it in a game since he boinked one off of DBess's chest on a 4th down conversion in 09 v the Patriots. BTW, ESPN's AFCE blog is now "the patriots" blog, they fired Tim Graham and hired Mike Reiss, oh screw that noise.
Was a Miami area writer then went to work for ESPN on the AFCE blog, he was canned and replaced with a Patriots blogger. First page, all patriots stuff, then "is Reggie Bush a bust". Been a Dolphins fan long enough to recognize the old purple hammer trying to be applied...
Its possible you are correct but there will be no more excuses for sure. If Henne is the starter then what excuses are left? It doesnt change past years but his role was different in certain respects. Every other year hes been in the league he was the clearcut #1 guy on his team. As the#2 guy he would often make plays vs the #2 CB in bigger spots cause Holmes was clearly Sanchez's favorite target. If Edwards comes here his role is as 2A (along with Bess but behind Marshall). The Jets have turned to Malcolm Floyd so Edwards market for playoff caliber teams might be dwindling a bit and Edwards is exactly the type of splash move that Ross has asked about in the past; someone who can make plays downfield, someone who plays well vertically which we really dont have unless Gates is going to be that guy. If the contract is reasonable; say 4 years 28M with say 10M guaranteed then imo there is nothing not to like. Dude, if you had a body like that you would never freakin wear a shirt. You probably wouldnt even wear pants lmao
Its a great question Ro, if we could do one more splash, what unit needs it most?. I think you have 3 spots...Pass rusher..Explosive receiver and guard, to make the biggest impact against our division rival, do you go guard to be able to deal with that defensive line in new england?..whatta you think bro?
Now if he could actually hit his targets more often, we might have something. JaMarcus Russell had a hell of an arm too, but he never amounted to anything. A lot more goes into a QB than an arm. Many of us don't see Henne as having the other needed ingredients. I guess we will find out this year one way or another.
except for when michael vick flicks his wrist and the ball flies like a torpedo over 60 yards with no real effort, i think has to be the guy with the best arm in this league, but henne for sure is up there, maybe top 5 or even 3
Well considering we're looking at going against the Patriots with Richie Incognito and John Jerry at G, I'd say there. I also think that with the weapons New England has, and our deficiencies at covering TEs, I think you can bring in a guy like Goldson and put him at FS. You can get rid of Yeremiah Bell and save some cap, then you let Clemons and Jones duke it out for the SS spot. I think Clemons is more suited to that role anyway, though he did well as a FS last year. That said, Goldson is better at this point. I think if you can grab Goldson, and maybe a Jacob Bell, you're sitting nicely. Maybe another OLB like Manny Lawson to knock Ikaika Alama-Francis off the roster as well. As for WR, I think Brandon Marshall has more deep threat to him than was allowed for in the offense last year. But he's more of an overall weapon. Hartline can go deep as well, and he's a nice complement. Bess can play slot and on the outside and you have Clyde Gates to add explosiveness. I see him more like a Mike Wallace type (not quite as good/proficient), but Edwards just seems superfluous to me, especially with the other holes that still remain. LG, FS, OLB, those would be my top 3 since they seem settled at QB.
I don't have the mohawk at the moment, but everytime I stop talking and leave a room I do the double bicep weigh-in pose. :double bicep weigh-in pose:
i´m hearing that goldson name a lot in the last few hours, is there any news that we are interested in him ?
RELEASE THE KRACKEN!!!.I still don't know if all our fans are grateful for the overall game this man has.. Padre, ive seen him run down running backs who got a head start, Ive seen him stiff arm a tackle with one arm and make the play on the edge..Iam thinking he is dead in the running for DPOY..
I've mentioned it a few times. In the Club thread last night, there was a post that we were rumored to be negotiating with him. Albeit, that was a Twitter rumor, but a rumore nonetheless.
i still think we need to keep bell though, we need some veteran presence in that spring chicken defense, bell, dansby, wake, allen must be the only guys over or close to beeing 30 years old
Maybe, maybe not. He's definitely lost a bit coverage-wise, and his cap number is a little large. If he stays, fine with me. If we can upgrade, fine with me also.
I'am not losing perspective, I'am just taking into account the impact of certain poor variables can have on a 1st year starting QB, and the win loss column. I'am not saying Henne is great, I'am saying he played better than people are implying at this point, and after he got benched and hurt, while still dealing with those negative variables, who knows the real dynamics of why he couldn't beat those teams you mentioned.. Hell, at times thru a good portion of the season, he played very well, and if that is the case imo, then the logical thing to do is improve the variables, until you fall in love with the QB you want, and let me ask you Ro, who was that free agent QB this year ?..
In my opinion, there wasn't really one. And that's a corner Bill Parclles, and now Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano have painted themselves into, not the other way around. I'd have been okay with McNabb or Hasselbeck if they came for free. I'd have been okay with Orton for the right price, but those things didn't work. I think they made a mistake by passing on Ryan Mallett for a second time in the draft and drafting Daniel Thomas. That said, are Tony Sparano, Brian Daboll, and Karl Dorrell the three guys you want to develop based on their handling of Chad Henne. Well, two of those names I know for damn sure I don't want them anywhere near a rookie QB, and the 3rd one is up in the air. I think you can decipher which two I'm talking about. Personally, my main gripe was that Sparano was brought back. We didn't properly develop Henne, he lost the team, and two years in a row with the playoffs on the line, his teams have gone 0-6 down the stretch. He's burned through a coordinator on each unit of the team in 3 years (Pasqualoni, Henning, and Bonamego) and Stephen Ross, for good reason, began flirting with Jim Harbaugh. However, whether it's due to naivete or idiocy, Ross botched that, then brought Sparano back. Essentially, Tony is living on borrowed time, and I think Jeff Ireland (who, from all things we've seemed to gather this offseason is probably a little less in danger *note, I purposefully didn't use the word safe) than Tony Sparano didn't pull the trigger on a move for Gabbert, or taking Ryan Mallett because he knows they'd have a good chance of getting the Henne treatment. It's also mine, and hopefully Ireland's belief that the 2012 crop could be even better and if he survives the Turk after the season, that's where he gets his QB. That is of course unless Chad Henne suddenly gets it to click. But, given the shortened offseason and the variable of having to learn a new offense, with new coaches (one of which whom has never coached QBs before) and what we've seen from him before, well I think those odds are stacked rather heavily against Chad. If Chad does well and gets the Dolphins to the playoffs, then yeah, maybe there's something to be seen still with Chad and Tony. But I'm not holding my breath, as I think of the 2011 season as somewhat of the Dolphins franchise living on borrowed time until 2012. If they succeed great. If they don't, well, we'll most likely get the results that we probably should've gotten at the end of 2010 - the end of Sparano and possibly Ireland as well. That's my thoughts on the season. Now, am I going to be rooting as hard as I can for the Dolphins to win each week? You bet. Do I think they'll win more than they'll lose? Probably not. But that's my opinion, and I'll concede a fan should probably never feel like that; but that's what the Dolphins franchise has come to, to me. So, to me, I go into this season numb. I don't think the QB position has been handled correctly. I think they made a mistake banking on Reggie Bush as opposed to a better, more proven option in Ahmad Bradshaw. I think they've over-tinkered with the offensive line far more than was really necessary since day one of 2008. Conversely, they've built a young roster with a pretty good defense (I think there's still a few pieces away from making that unit great). But there's been too much turnover, both players and coaches, for me to have full faith in what Ireland and Sparano are doing. If they make the playoffs and save their jobs great. If they stink and go 5-11, well, it sucks for yet another year, but I think that brings in the changes I thought were necessary from 2010. However, if they go 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7 yet again (which I think they'll do), it puts the Miami Dolphins in the worst position possible, and Stephen Ross will learn another hard lesson. And the fans will pay dearly if this front office and coaching staff stays in place yet again. That's my ultimate fear. I wish I had your optimism, I really do, but it's just too hard for me to be that way given what I've seen from the Miami Dolphins under Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano. Sorry for being long-winded, but that's what I think.
He hits those targets a lot more, in the right place then given credit for..The deep stuff is inaccurate because of the infrequency for which he is called to do so imo. I'am not sure if he can overcome his weaknesses either, I know he can't improvise a breakdown, I know his ball trajectory has a negative impact in the redzone, I know he takes his eyes off the defense when he feels pressure, I know his low release point is the reason for his high amount of tipped balls, those were the reasons why I too gave up on him after the season, only til I went back and broke each play down did I see someone who executed his position on a team fairly well, while the rest of the team and coaches were no help..
I know were gonna much better at covering the tight ends now, I think the flexibility of SS24, the addition of Edds and his skillset, the very good coverage skillset of our new inside linebacker Burnett, and the biggest safety playing linebacker in the League Karlos Dansby, were gonna be very good in a dept where we used to be very poor..
lol...that sh^t cracked me up, that dude is a little loco...loved it though...bad *** mother grabbin Kracken..I hope he comes off the edge on monday nite and knocks brady out cold {just for a minute or 2}...Down goes brady!!!...When you have a player that good, you have a chance of accomplishing what people think you can't...game changer..one play.
You hit on pretty much all of it I think. Now I will freely admit I haven't had the time or opportunity (or desire) to go back and rewatch stuff, but really Henne is a 4 year college starter. He started a full season last year and a good chunk the year before. His weaknesses still seem to be around, his strengths really don't seem to be pushing him over the hump. And he was a second tier QB talent coming in. That is what a bottom second rounder is, a second tier talent. Especially at QB, if you are a premiere guy you go in the first. To be frank, he seems to have plateaued as a QB for me. Certainly I am no expert, and I could well be wrong, but I just can't muster the optimism you have. I somewhat envy it honestly, and hope it pays off for you. But man, I am not excited by the prospect of a Henne/Moore led offense trotting out there. If that is our plan, I will cross my fingers hoping against hope, but figure we will have a good shot at a top prospect in the draft next year. Sorry for turning this into another Henne thread lol. Deej your a good guy and wrong or right I do enjoy reading your stuff. Glad to be talking real football and not lockout crap!
Thanks bud, enjoyed it as well, one last thing, Iam not trying to be optimistic, I really think with the weaknesses being addressed, and playmakers being added, and subtractions that were made, I'am truly interested to see how Henne's proset skillset will function with all cynlinders working.. It sounds I guess that iam just in love with his arm strength, but thats not the case, there is some accuracy behind that velocity that intrigues the hell out of me..There are throws that I have seen him make accurately at a certain velocity that blow me away sometimes.
Henne has failed in many more games though DJ. Playing well in one, doesn't make up for his failure in getting this team into the playoffs the past 2 seasons when he had the chance. No way to sugarcoat that my friend.
Awesome stuff Deej. I'm very very very excited about this team and upcoming season too. I can't believe how fans are still disrespectfully trashing Henne after all the hard work and dedication he's put in this offseason to help our offense get up to speed without an OC. Fans don't have to like the guy, but at least show some class by respecting what he's tried to accomplish for both himself AND the good of the team. Everything that Henne has represented and accomplished this offseason is what we all should be hoping for in a QB; that's the kind of guy we should want to put our faith & hope in; we should want him to succeed rather than talking harshly about hypothetical failure. It seems like some fans would be happier seeing Henne out the door with a rookie taking his place rather than seeing Henne actually succeed. I don't know why but the Dan Henning hate stuff still gives me a chuckle every time. I lol'd at this statement, too. I like the formation when it's successful and used at appropriate times....... but, like a case of food poisoning, this regime has temporarily left me with an aversion to the formation.
