Karl Dorrell is your new QBs coach, Bowles on the move?

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MuckMuckretired_adminOP
Jan 26, 2011, 10:45 AM

Wide receivers coach Karl Dorrell will now be the quarterbacks coach in 2011, a league source has confirmed. Dorrell, 47, has never coached quarterbacks in his 22-year coaching career, but has served as the Dolphins’ wide receivers coach for the past three seasons.

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2011/01/26/dolphins-move-karl-dorrell-from-wide-receivers-coach-to-quarterbacks-coach/

Looks like Ike Hilliard will indeed be the new WR's coach. And the staff looks to now be complete.

Unless Todd Bowles is named defensive coordinator in Arizona.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Sources-Todd-Bowles-impresses-Ken-Whisenhunt-in-interview.html

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GMJohnsonGMJohnsonNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 10:48 AM

Let the complaining begin...

finsergfinsergNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 10:48 AM

Wow he nevered coached Qb in 22 yrs sounds scary to me.Not sure why they didnt go after someone who had experience.

finsergfinsergNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 10:49 AM

"GMJohnson wrote:

Let the complaining begin...


Well do you think people would be happy with someone that has zero experience ? its like a no brainer

we need someone who can help out our Qb that being henn or bringing in someone.

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 10:51 AM

I have been fairly silent up till now but this move totally eats. Look forward to zero QB development.:angry:

pocolocopocolocosubscriber
Jan 26, 2011, 10:51 AM

With this slew of inexperienced or unsuccessful coaches, I think we're seeing a lame duck effect, despite Sparano's recent extension. No one worth anything here wants to be here for a one year position, so we make do with the bottom of the barrel.

bakedmattbakedmattNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 10:53 AM

Brian Daboll is the QBs coach.

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finsergfinsergNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 10:54 AM

"pocoloco wrote:

With this slew of inexperienced or unsuccessful coaches, I think we're seeing a lame duck effect, despite Sparano's recent extension. No one worth anything here wants to be here for a one year position, so we make do with the bottom of the barrel.


I dont think sparano last if he does not have a good season.

bakedmattbakedmattNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 10:57 AM

"finserg wrote:

I dont think sparano last if he does not have a good season.


No, probably not.

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KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:00 AM

"bakedmatt wrote:

Brian Daboll is the QBs coach.

This is true.

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:18 AM

Sorry I had a knee jerk moment there which is not my style....... deep breath.

I really need to get laid. :lol:

SOSouthbeachNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:20 AM

"Killerphins wrote:

This is true.

Yeah, DaBoll is the one who will make or break Henne this year, as well as our O and our season. I believe Dorrell, being overly familiar with our WR's, will help Henne in seeing what they see, want, and need. JMO

SOSouthbeachNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:23 AM

"Killerphins wrote:

Sorry I had a knee jerk moment there which is not my style....... deep breath.

I really need to get laid. :lol:

Thanks for sharing that Killer. This is something we all needed to know. JK/LOL.

MuckMuckretired_admin
Jan 26, 2011, 11:28 AM

"finserg wrote:

Wow he nevered coached Qb in 22 yrs sounds scary to me.Not sure why they didnt go after someone who had experience.


FWIW: He has been an offensive coordinator.

Make the throwback uniforms permanent!

MOmommabillyNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:30 AM

"Southbeach wrote:

Yeah, DaBoll is the one who will make or break Henne this year, as well as our O and our season. I believe Dorrell, being overly familiar with our WR's, will help Henne in seeing what they see, want, and need. JMO


So, Dorrell is finally going to make Henne believe pass that are 10 feet high cannot be caught and that bounce passes do not count ? :yes:

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finsergfinsergNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:34 AM

"Muck wrote:

FWIW: He has been an offensive coordinator.


Yea saw that ,but i figure we need someone with experience in Qb"s

The_Dark_KnightThe_Dark_Knightforum_veteran
Jan 26, 2011, 11:41 AM

I know this move is making everyone scratch their heads...made me scratch mine at first too, but then I gave it some thought...

Yes, we all know that Brian Daboll will be the ultimate one who holds Henne's career in his hands. As for Dorrell being the QB's coach, this MIGHT make some sense in a diabolical Dr Evil kind of way...

Quarterbacks throw to...wide receivers.
Dorrell having been the WR's coach for the past few years already knows how Hartline, Bess and Marshall think and what they are going to do going downfield.
Dorrell MIGHT be effective in coaching that in to Henne's head..."This is what he's going to do...so anticipate it...even if you don't see it...it's going to happen"
(Or at least that could be the thought process behind this move)

Sugar or schidt...that's what this move is going to ultimately end up being.

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SOSouthbeachNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:48 AM

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

I know this move is making everyone scratch their heads...made me scratch mine at first too, but then I gave it some thought...

Yes, we all know that Brian Daboll will be the ultimate one who holds Henne's career in his hands. As for Dorrell being the QB's coach, this MIGHT make some sense in a diabolical Dr Evil kind of way...

Quarterbacks throw to...wide receivers.
Dorrell having been the WR's coach for the past few years already knows how Hartline, Bess and Marshall think and what they are going to do going downfield.
Dorrell MIGHT be effective in coaching that in to Henne's head..."This is what he's going to do...so anticipate it...even if you don't see it...it's going to happen"
(Or at least that could be the thought process behind this move)

Sugar or schidt...that's what this move is going to ultimately end up being.

That was my thinking as well, especially with Marshall, kind of a bridge for DaBoll and Henne more so than a "QB coach." We shall see.

SOSouthbeachNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:51 AM

"mommabilly wrote:

So, Dorrell is finally going to make Henne believe pass that are 10 feet high cannot be caught and that bounce passes do not count ? :yes:

Yeah, gotta get him off that basketball mentality, unless it's a 10 foot lob pass at the crossbar for a dunk. LOL

dolphinkevdolphinkevNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 11:57 AM

He was a head coach at a major university, I think he knows something about the qb position, plus I think daboll will be working a lot with qb's.

adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Jan 26, 2011, 12:00 PM

"pocoloco wrote:

With this slew of inexperienced or unsuccessful coaches, I think we're seeing a lame duck effect, despite Sparano's recent extension. No one worth anything here wants to be here for a one year position, so we make do with the bottom of the barrel.


yeah i agree. Ross made the boneheaded move of boneheaded moves by looking for another coach but failing to bring one in. He should have either shut up and let everything play out for another year or he shouldve fired sparano and changed coaches. This scenario now is just trying to make the best of a bad situation



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MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Jan 26, 2011, 12:03 PM

So the guy who formerly instructed our WRs how to not catch the ball, is now going to help develop / teach our young QBs...

...what could possibly go wrong?

Isn't this a little like hiring a failed accountant to fix your transmission?

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Jan 26, 2011, 12:08 PM

"lmeister3 wrote:

So the guy who formerly instructed our WRs how to not catch the ball, is now going to help develop / teach our young QBs...

...what could possibly go wrong?

Isn't this a little like hiring a failed accountant to fix your transmission?


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PHPHINANALYSTforum_veteran
Jan 26, 2011, 12:19 PM

the problem i have with it is .... what exactly did he do with the WRs we've had .... has he truly made a difference with Bess or Hartline ??? Ginn was a lost cause - because he didn't have mental toughness, you can't fix that. But list the success stories the Dorrell has created at the WR position (Welker/Bess), to then give some indication that he has the ability to do something with a different position.

ToddsPhinsToddsPhinsNew Member
Jan 26, 2011, 01:06 PM

"Southbeach wrote:

Yeah, DaBoll is the one who will make or break Henne this year, as well as our O and our season. I believe Dorrell, being overly familiar with our WR's, will help Henne in seeing what they see, want, and need. JMO


That's what I was thinking when I read it too.

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