He was suppose to be a future candidate for the OC spot, Its a natural progression, I really see no problem with it.

Jim Zorn was just fired a few days ago.

 

On the bright side, Our QB's will run the best routes in the league!

 

To be fair, the Patriots move assistant coaches from one position to another and don’t blink an eye. Hell, Mike Nolan coached receivers once.

It’s a strange move, doubly so with Jeremy Bates available at the time, but it’s not worth slashing our wrists over.

 

OC- 1990-1991 at Northern Arizona
OC- 1995-1998 at Colorado
OC- 1999 at Washigton
HC- UCLA 2003 to 2007

I really don't have a problem with it.

Bill O'Brien was the Pats WR coach before becoming the QB coach this year.

 

Who says Dorrell can't be that? Daboll is said to be really good with QB's, I'm sure he will be all over Henne also.

I'm willing to give them a chance.

 

And he just had his best year ever with a poor Wr's core. No defense and a poor running game.

 

As someone pointed out (I forgot who), it could be to help the QB's see things from a receivers' perspective.

 

I think it's a lot closer than that. QB's works with receivers more than any other position. A QB can see when a receiver did something wrong, and vice versa. And Dorrell, being a former WR can help Henne or whoever the QB will be with a few nuances.

 

In the view of the people who are paid millions of dollars, Karl Dorrell was the best option. We’ll see how it works out. Can’t be worse than supposed quarterbacks guru David Lee.

Tony Sparano doesn’t. Not when he’s talking about looking at tape of every 30+ yard passing play in the NFL this season, and saying that a lot of them came when the quarterback—most frequently, Michael Vick and Aaron Rodgers—used mobility to extend the play and find a receiver downfield. Well, Henne doesn’t find receivers downfield and he definitely isn’t very mobile. Dare we call him Drew Bledsoe 2.0.

No, Chad Henne isn’t the starting QB anymore. I think, at this point, Sparano would rather put Brandon Marshall under center than trot Chad Henne out one more time.

I honestly think we’re going to find a way to trade up and get Cam Newton.

 

So your saying the QB coach isn't important???? ;)

 

Here is my take, maybe this will clear my view up.

Last year we had a dinosaur OC that would not change his offense to adapt to the players he had in his system, we had a QB coach that seemed to be on a different page from the OC and we had a head coach that seemed to be afraid to tell Henning (Parcells boy) what he wanted (Or henning did what he wanted anyway).

This year, we have a new OC that is said to be good with QB's coming in (we have heard from McCoy, Pennington and Kosar regarding the guy), we have a QB coach that is young and hungry and has been a OC and a HC before, and they were all hired by Sparano and Ireland, not Parcells, so Sparano will be in control.

Now Sparano in control maybe a cause for worry, but I'm going on the belief that we have a young hungry staff that wants to prove something.

As Des has stated, coaches get moved all over the place, that's what makes them well rounded coaches.

I find myself a bit excited about the staff, I can't wait to see what they do.

 

Want to bet? I think Newton needs a year on the bench, but the trend over the last 3-4 years is for rookies, even rookie QBs, to start right away and do well.

Matt Ryan: started immediately, made the playoffs.
Joe Flacco: started immediately, made the AFC Championship Game.
Mark Sanchez: started immediately, made the AFC Championship Game.
Sam Bradford: started immediately, named Offensive Rookie of the Year.

Then there are non-QBs who start immediately and do well for themselves. On our team alone, there’s Jake Long, Kendall Langford, Koa Misi, and Sean Smith. All started in their rookie years. All have nailed down their positions.

Yeah, if we draft Cam Newton, he’s the week 1 starter.

 

He needs about 2 years on the bench. And even then I don't think he will be all that ready.

 

I wouldn’t particularly mind if Newton started right away. Ben Roethlisberger did.

 

because good QB's coaches dont make lateral moves...Dorrell is qualified to coach QB'S..

 

How?

 

Do the Pats really need a QB coach???

 

Whats the difference? The newest trend is we really don't need a strong QB.

 

did you just put vick in the same category as brady brees and p. manning

 

This may be an effort to improve comunications between Henne and Marshall and the other receivers .It was obvious they were not on the same page for most of the year.

Dorell knows what makes them tick .

 

Mike Shula was available and said he would have been interested, but the Dolphins never even contacted him. If the coach's contract is up or a team makes a regime change it is entirely possible for a good QB coach to make a lateral move. Shula since has been hired elsewhere. Zorn is now available. Flacco isn't happy his QB coach isn't coming back. Anyone who thinks Shula or Zorn would not have been better choices is living in a fool's paradise. That would also mean Dorrell would have stayed at WR coach rather than Steve Bush who has never been a WR coach.

 

Have to be honest, do not like Karl Dorrell in any coaching capacity. He took a UCLA Bruins team and shoved them into the gutter. His best bowl game he could bring them to while being HC there was the Las Vegas Bowl and the Emerald Bowl.

He last two seasons there were disasters finishing with 6 wins and yes, he had all his own recruits running the show by then. I have no faith in this guy. As far as him ruining Henne ? No, Henne is a big boy, he does not need anyone to ruin him, he has done a good job of ruining himself.

All I have to say is this. One day this team will get a very good QB and Chad Henne will be gone. Then and only then will people realize how really bad Chad Henne was. Until that day though we all are going to be called Bashers and such. Personally, I do not care because I know the Chad Henne we saw in 2010 is the best Chad Henne thats going to be seen. Like I said, when the day comes we get a good QB, eyes will be opened wide.

 

Then I guess you believe Sparano is drafting Cam for the next coach, because if Newton starts for us next year, Sparano will be certain to be fired by week 7 or 8. Newton is a total project QB. We need a veteran presence in the huddle next year. If Henne can turn it around it will be him, but if they draft Newton then we will know for sure, that Sparano & Ireland don't really believe in Henne. What will that do to HIS psyche & more importantly his play on the field ? This is a mess and Sparano & Ireland have created it themselves, by not canning Henning before the 2010 season. They made their bed, and now have to lie in it.

 

I feel exactly as you do. Add in the hiring of whats his face as our offensive Co Ordinator and the whole thing has CRASH and BURN written all over it. But I forget, the guy coached in New England so he must be good, Right ?:no:

 

People don't stay in the same jobs their entire careers....At least
I haven't, don't know about you. Dorrell could well be great at the
job. Who knows? You don't. I don't either. People progress, and
often you aren't ready for the job you're handed.

Of all the things that have happened this OS so far, this is the one
I'm probably least concerned with.