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Keeper GM League

Discussion in '2012 GM League Forum' started by Skeet84, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    I have talked to Griddles and he is willing to do this. Most of us play every year anyway so this makes a lot of sense. This way you can make long term deals (with salary penalties), keep draft picks, and build the teams the way we want and watch then grow. The hardest part about this would be starting the league up.

    Some ideas we talked about.
    * Start with a Fantasy draft. (snake draft style)
    * Contract penalties for players released
    * voting could be much more fun as well



    With enough support we can make this a reality!

    So would you guys like to do this?



    ***Edit***
    There would be a committee to put salaries in order along with # of yrs.

    No bonuses just a penalty for base salaries. Committee with figure out a percentage that is best for league.

    This would be totally new and nothing we have already done.

    Committee would run the league (5 ppl I am thinking). Griddles works hard and he needs help this way things can be voted on and done in the best interest of the league. Also so no one blames one person for a decision.



    Players signed up for Keeper league


    1. Skeet84
    2. Sick
    3. Schisno
    4. UCF FINatic
    5. Devilfin13
    6. Big E
    7. BuckeyeKing
    8. Gish
    9. Sports 24/7
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    11. UCFfinfan
    12. Fin-Omenal
    13. Paul13
    14. Griddles
    15. Nappy Roots
    16. Stitches
    17. Skull destroyer
    18. JMH
    19. BDog
    20. Adam
    21. Laces Out

    Maybe
    King Felix (wants to be co GM)
    PSG
     
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  2. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    I am totally for the keeper league. Like you said most of us are repeat players. Let's get it started
    I am on board.
     
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  3. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    I would definitely be in, since I've already been in this close to a decade... not nearly as long as others. I have to say good luck to you to run this thing as a keeper
     
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  4. King Felix

    King Felix Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Great idea! Let's do it
     
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  5. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    Maybe.

    A) If I get the Raiders.

    B) If it's not based on moves made so far.

    C) for the cap stuff, I think we have to do bonus stuff then, no?
     
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  6. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    As long as we have figures for the term of the contracts we should be good. Then again we need one base salary and decide how we will determine contract length and price tag for players
     
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  7. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    I'm all in....... if my vote counts. :wave:
     
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  8. DevilFin13

    DevilFin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    A fantasy draft would be fun. That's always my favorite part of playing Madden. Though that also speaks to the Dolphins always either sucking or being boring.
     
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  9. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Only if I can have my 2010 Browns back.
     
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  10. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

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    Of course I'm in .....would we still do the sim Madden league?
     
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  11. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    I like it this way better.
    I like taking over a different team every year and seeing what I can do with it.
     
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  12. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    There would be a committee to put salaries in order along with # of yrs.

    No bonuses just a penalty for base salaries. Committee with figure out a percentage that is best for league.

    This would be totally new and nothing we have already done.

    Committee would run the league (5 ppl I am thinking). Griddles works hard and he needs help this way things can be voted on and done in the best interest of the league. Also so no one blames one person for a decision.
     
  13. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Most people flake after free agency. Always 5+ that lose interest. Fantasy draft? I'm ****ing in if that is the case. How would we make salaries?
     
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  14. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    You know what, we wouldn't even have to have 32 teams. If there's a fantasy draft we would just make our own teams and if someone new wants to jump in and someone can vouch for his long term ability then bam expansion.

    I'd rather have a solid pool of like 16 teams that I know will do this without dropping out then, try to keep 32 teams filled for the endurance of a keeper.
     
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  15. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    Yes which is another fun part about the league. We won't need 32 teams. I think the more important part is having quality to quantity
     
  16. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Very interesting... I'd be down if we did during the regular season that seems to be when most people are active.
     
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  17. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    this could be fun if done the right way... I agree that you don't have to dress 32 teams. This is where you'd want to have the hardcore guys that have been here a few years maybe be the main components to the league and setting up the rules and such. You could even just have the first year be defined by the fantasy draft only. This could even take place after this year's GML is concluded. You'd need to have 53 rounds (if a 53 man roster). Make the draft picks non tradeable for this first year since it's different from any other year following. Have the round each player is picked determine their salary. Say 1st round picks be $10m in base... while a 10th round pick be $2m. $20th round be $1m etc etc...The term of the contracts and the following years are what would be the hard part to implement. You'd want to have some sort of salary cap process. It could get complex fast. :shifty:
     
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  18. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    Most rules would be made by the committee and adjusted by them when needed. Not here to talk rules just throwing up a basic plan but you bring up good points Paul
     
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  19. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    New York
    This.
     
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  20. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    Major City teams only.

    Paul would get the San Diego DisChargers

    San Diego Gardners... and their hoses
     
  21. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    Screwing teams up 1 year at a time huh?
     
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  22. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    4 down, 28 to go.
     
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  23. finsbuck719

    finsbuck719 New Member

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    I'm on board.
     
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  24. schisno

    schisno Well-Known Member

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    well just worry about year one.

    16 teams

    6 team playoffs, top 2 get bye.

    or Madden sim.
     
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  25. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    Hard to do madden sim with 16 teams I would think.

    We will start with as many committed GM's who wanna play. I think we get over 16. Gish would join and I think Paul would too. Those two aren't even in this GM league
     
  26. GISH

    GISH ~mUST wARN oTHERS~

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    Over Yonder
    I'm down for this idea
     
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  27. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Stop repeating myself.
     
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  28. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    ToddsGISH?

    God that sounds gayer than I thought it would.
     
  29. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    [​IMG]
     
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  30. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    You sound excited.
     
  31. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    too much time for you in prison methinks.
     
  32. sports24/7

    sports24/7 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Yeah, I think I'd be in. I do think we'd need close to 32 teams though. If you have too many less, then everyone's working with all star teams and draft picks after round 3 might have trouble making teams.
     
  33. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    I think we would be much closer to 32 than 16. I think we can get this done.
     
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  34. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    It's only gay if you snuggle afterward.
     
  35. Skeet84

    Skeet84 New Member

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    Updated first post with players who would be interested in playing and players who might
     
  36. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Just so we're clear... this would be done on a separate forum (likely Mach's Stadium Rejects forum) . We would still run the GM League here normally. As far as this keeper league goes, here are my ideas. NONE of this would be set in stone... just throwing my own ideas around that I think would be fair. If any of you guys want to me explain my reasoning behind anything... just ask and I will be happy to do so.

    General Information
    -Fantasy snaked 53 round draft to start the league.
    -Contracts determined on what round player is drafted
    -Teams will take a cap penalty (dead cap) for trading/releasing players
    -No less than 16 teams but no more than 32 teams (24 teams seem likely).
    -Ability to add a maximum of 2 expansion teams at the beginning of each season.
    -League-wide votes for major changes (adding an expansion team, etc.)
    -7 Round Draft with college players.
    -Rookie draft order determined via league-wide vote
    -If a team GM disappears, the a committee will act on their behalf until a replacement is found.

    Contract Information
    -Contracts would be total amount, years (maximum = 6 years).
    -Teams would have a choice of giving a player a front-loaded, evenly distributed, or back-loaded contract after a player is signed.
    -The cap hit for cutting or trading a player would be 50% of the player's remaining salary.
    -Once a player has been traded once, there would be no other cap penalty for trading or cutting said player down the road
    -Free Agents would take the best contract available (most money).
    -Teams can re-sign their players... offer contracts to their own free agents and a committee of select GMs determine whether the player would accept that deal.
    -Committees would be voted on by all GMs to select the fairest group of GMs to make specific decisions.

    Draft
    -Have set salaries for each pick in the first two rounds. Then set salaries on a round-by-round basis after round two.
    -Draft order determined by a league-wide vote at the end of each NFL season.

    Voting
    -Best of categories at the end of the NFL season
    -Playoff style voting at the end of the NFL season
    -Each GM votes for the conference winners (3 points), division winners (2 points), and wild cards (1 point).
    -Vote for the winner in a playoff style poll where two teams "match-up" against one another.
    -Vote for the best out of the remaining non-playoff teams so determine the following season's draft order.
     
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  37. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Looks good to me.
     
  38. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    looks good to me.
    The cap hit for trading a player seems a tad harsh, but you said you have your reasoning for everything, so I'll trust your judgement.
     
  39. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    It seems harsh but that's how it works in the NFL... This is why you don't see many trades.
     
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  40. Mach

    Mach Cap Dude

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    The only difference I'd suggest is that if in fact we do have 32 guys, we start with the original rosters, it'd just make more sense that way I'd think.

    (Okay, no, really, I'm going to bed now)
     

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