Here are their latest ESPN Big Boards - Discuss Kiper: 1 Sam Bradford QB Analysis: Has underrated arm and great feel for position and is super-accurate. 2 Eric Berry DB Analysis: Ultimate play maker, in the Ed Reed mold. 3 Carlos Dunlap DE Analysis: Physical tools are off the charts. Unlimited upside potential. 4 Gerald McCoy DT Analysis: Disruptive force. Productive NFL career ahead. 5 Ndamukong Suh DT Analysis: Explosive, relentless and consistent. 6 Taylor Mays DB Analysis: LB size and CB speed. 7 Colt McCoy QB Analysis: Intelligent and resourceful. Can beat you with arm or legs. 8 Russell Okung OT Analysis: Athletic, strong and fiery blind-side pass protector. 9 Dez Bryant WR Analysis: Dynamic receiver, punt returner and TD maker. 10 Trent Williams OT Analysis: Quality all-around bookend, moves from RT to LT this season. 11 Arrelious Benn WR Analysis: Silky smooth, with excellent run-after-catch ability. 12 Jonathan Dwyer RB Analysis: Power back, adept at breaking off long runs. 13 Jahvid Best RB Analysis: Versatile, game-breaker supreme. 14 Jevan Snead QB Analysis: Could have pro career similar to that of former Rebel Eli Manning. 15 Charles Brown OT Analysis: All the skills you look for in top flight NFL left tackle. 16 Terrence Cody DT Analysis: Tremendous clogger along the interior. 17 Sean Weatherspoon LB Analysis: Makes plays all over the field. 18 Greg Hardy DE Analysis: Difference-maker harassing the QB when at full strength. 19 Damian Williams WR Analysis: Polished receiver and extremely hard worker. 20 Brandon Graham DE Analysis: Awesome athlete and force off the edge. 21 Sergio Kindle LB Analysis: Production finally matched his talent last season. 22 Jerry Hughes DE Analysis: Prolific pass rusher who could be a 3-4 OLB. 23 Brandon Spikes LB Analysis: Complete MLB, solid in all areas. 24 C.J. Spiller RB Analysis: Multi-talented, super fast, electrifying game-breaker. 25 Sean Lee LB Versatile, instinctive, and tremendously hard-working -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scouts Inc. 1. Sam Bradford QB 2. Russell Okung OT 3. Gerald McCoy DT 4. Ndamukong Suh DT 5. Taylor Mays S 6. Trent Williams OT 7. Jevan Snead QB 8. Arthur Jones DT 9. Brandon Spikes MLB 10. Greg Hardy DE 11. Brandon LaFell WR 12. Patrick Robinson CB 13. Colt McCoy QB 14. George Selvie DE 15. C.J. Spiller RB 16. Javier Arenas CB 17. Brandon Graham DE 18. Sergio Kindle OLB 19. Jermaine Cunningham DE 20. Mardy Gilyard WR 21. Jermaine Gresham TE 22. Terrence Cody DT 23. Brandon Lang OLB 24. Syd'Quan Thompson CB 25. Jerry Hughes OLB 26. Tim Tebow QB 27. Trevard Lindley CB 28. Ricky Sapp DE 29. Dennis Pitta TE 30. Nate Allen S 31. Garrett Graham TE 32. Rod Muckelroy OLB
Underrated mobility IMO. Overrated. I've watched him a couple times and I worry about his inability to get off the line quickly. Maybe that'll change this year but last year, it was something that stood out to me.
2nd what you said Alen. it's also nice to see someone else (Scoutsinc) is very high on Sapp. LOL. I have a bad gut feeling about McCoy right now. Best is way too high on Kiper's board IMO. He's a change of pace 3rd down back to me. Dunlap has yet to wow me so far. Is ScoutsInc only using Seniors for this list? Posted via Mobile Device
With the 26th pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select, Tim Tebow, Quarterback, University of Florida Gators. Tim Tebow, "First of all I would like to thank the good Lord upstairs for providing me with everything I have in life. My football skills are because of the man upstairs who has blessed me all my life........" That's what is gonna happen!!!! We can use a high character, 6'4" 245 pound QB who refuses to lose and who even Chuck Norris is afraid of.
I find it very interesting that Pete Carroll has so much trust in Taylor Mays as the centerfielder in the Cover 1 when he's not shy about over-pursuing and decision making. I know Mays can run and has solid range but he's shown in the past he's undisciplined at times.
I haven't gotten a chance to see him play yet this season ... has mechanics improved any? Or is he still Bernie Kosar-ish? If we pick a Gator in the 1st round, I'd rather it be a certain inside LB
Youre probably expecting some oposition from me, but despite being a Clemson fan, i'd have to agree with you.....about Mays. LOL Just kidding. Sapp is playing like late 1st round talent but until I see him healthy and consistent for an entire season, I don't look at him till the late 2nd-3rd at the earliest He's a great individual and an awesome teammate, but like the little leprechaun said (Lou Holtz)- I don't have love at first sight when considering a top pick. LOL So far through 2 games, he's playing like a top DE. He's athletic, explosive, and fluid enough to develop into a very good Hybrid....if he has the instincts and awareness for it. IMO of course.
I know Greg Hardy has a bum wheel, but he seems awkward when he runs, almost uncoordinated and clumsy'ish...like his cleats were dipped in wet cement before the game. For his sake, I hope it's just his leg. B/C, you know the "13 year old bully" in movies who gets surprised with a punch to the beak.... and then starts bawling, and turns and runs away with his arms and legs flailing around like wet noodles....that's what Hardy reminded me of tonight. LOL. Someone please tell me it's just his injury.
Yup. And as much as I like Tebow, I think he would be horrible under center. While he is very mobile, he has trouble feeling the blitz at times.
It is an injury. He's basically played on one leg because of an ankle sprain. He looked alright last night, I felt. When the game started, it was clear that the injury was hampering him as he looked to struggle running laterally but as the game went on, he got more comfortable and was in the pocket a few times. He sacked Garcia once to end a drive and force a punt. It seems like there's very few things that can prevent him from producing. He played with a stress fracture last year I believe and still racked up 8.5 sacks in 9 games in which he had a limited snap count. Also, it's said that Greg Hardy has put on weight this year as he's up to 275. I thought it was noticeable as he looked to have thicker hips. Awful.
Yeah...I guess you could say that. LOL I am amazed at the extent of his accuracy with the floaters he throws. It can't be easy accounting for all the normal issues related to getting the ball to your receiver PLUS having to factor in the trajectory of a duck, too.
I'm curious on everyone elses thoughts.... I don't see us going into next season with 3 QB's (Henne, Pat, and 2010 rookie) who have zero to very little real time experience. That's a disaster waiting to happen. If we don't re-sign Penny to back up Henne the starter (being optimistic), then I think we'll sign a vet in FA who can serve as an experienced backup should Henne go down. Our guys are too young/inexperienced, so there has to be a veteran in the mix. So I'd be shocked to see us take a QB earlier than the 4th b/c I doubt we want to carry 4 QB's.... unless we spend a flyer on one in 5-7 and hope that he has a good enough preseason to show some damn good potential.
I'll take Mays over any of our current safeties. We need someone who plays on instincts, and takes risks to make big plays. All great safeties take risks. I wouldn't throw Mays under the bus because he is willing to do that. With good coaching (which i think we have), he can be great. Does this not look good?
So Mays doesn't have good coaching at USC now? I didn't know Berry is more productive bc he has better coaching. Wait....if taking more risks=making bigger plays... and Mays takes more risks as you say....so if he's taking more risks then why isn't he making more plays? just givin ya a hard time, Gish. LOL
I thought Tim Tebow died in that Kentucky game. He got smacked harder then any QB I have seen in a while. With that said, It all depends on whether or not you feel he is just a system QB in a spread offense or not. I don't see why he couldn't also line up in a traditional QB setup. I think the positives are his toughness, not necessarily fast but quick and shifty and hard to tackle (kind of like Big Ben), but he also will have to be able to take a lot of hits like Big Ben is able to. I think he is accurate, but there are other QBs with stronger arms. His mechanics are still the same.
Here is Mel's updated board with prior week's rankings. Looks like he is starting to get on board with Pike, Norwood & Gilyard. He is using a new method for changing his top 25 as stated below ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4519330 First of all, this week you're going to see that a few big names have dropped out and it's not strictly performance-related. Jevan Snead, Arrelious Benn and Damian Williams all were previously on the Big Board, and wouldn't have dropped off if not for a change in my methodology. Here's the change: If a player is a junior who isn't currently in the top 15, I'm going to leave him off. Kiper's New Big Board 1 Sam Bradford QB 6-4 223 Analysis: Has underrated arm, great feel for position; super-accurate. Last week: No. 1 2 Eric Berry DB 5-11 203 Analysis: Ultimate playmaker, in the Ed Reed mold. Last week: No. 2 3 Ndamukong Suh DT 6-4 300 Analysis: Explosive, relentless and consistent. Last week: No. 3 4 Gerald McCoy DT 6-4 297 Analysis: Disruptive force. Productive NFL career ahead. Last week: No. 4 5 Carlos Dunlap DE 6-6 290 Analysis: Physical tools are off the charts. Unlimited upside potential. Last week: No. 5 6 Colt McCoy QB 6-2 210 Analysis: Intelligent and resourceful. Can beat you with arm or legs. Last week: No. 7 7 Taylor Mays DB 6-3 230 Analysis: LB size and CB speed. Last week: No. 6 8 Dez Bryant WR 6-2 220 Analysis: Dynamic receiver, punt returner and TD maker. Last week: No. 9 9 Russell Okung OT 6-5 300 Analysis: Athletic, strong and fiery blind-side pass protector. Last week: No. 8 10 Jahvid Best RB 5-10 195 Analysis: Versatile, game-breaker supreme. Last week: No. 10 10 Terrence Cody DT 6-5 365 Analysis: Tremendous clogger along the interior. Last week: No. 13 12 Sean Weatherspoon LB 6-2 245 Analysis: Makes plays all over the field. Last week: No. 14 13 Greg Hardy DE 6-5 275 Analysis: Difference-maker harassing the QB when at full strength. Last week: No. 15 14 C.J. Spiller RB 5-11 195 Analysis: Multitalented, super-fast, electrifying game-breaker. Last week: No. 16 15 Sergio Kindle LB 6-4 255 Analysis: Production finally matched his talent last season. Last week: No. 17 16 Brandon Graham DE 6-2 270 Analysis: Awesome athlete and force off the edge. Last week: No. 19 17 Jermaine Gresham TE 6-6 258 Analysis: The best pass-catching tight end in college football. Last week: 20 18 Trent Williams OT 6-5 318 Analysis: Quality all-around bookend, moves from RT to LT this season. Last week: No. 21 19 Jerry Hughes DE 6-3 257 Analysis: Prolific pass-rusher who could be a 3-4 OLB. Last week: No. 23 20 Charles Brown OT 6-5 285 Analysis: All the skills you look for in a topflight NFL left tackle. Last week: No. 22 21 Brandon Spikes LB 6-3 243 Analysis: Complete MLB, solid in all areas. Last week: No. 24 22 Sean Lee LB 6-2 238 Analysis: Versatile, instinctive and tremendously hardworking. Last week: No. 25 23 Tony Pike QB 6-6 225 Analysis: Height, mechanics, arm strength and accuracy are all impressive. Last week: NR 24 Eric Norwood LB 6-1 252 Analysis: Productive, versatile, great pass-rusher, ideal 3-4 OLB in the NFL. Last week: NR 25 Mardy Gilyard WR 6-1 180 Analysis: Explosive, consistent, sure-handed, with return skills as bonus. Last week: NR
He's a baller but I worry about him. He doesn't appear to be carrying his new weight all too well IMO.
Scout's Inc Updated List: Player Position School Height Weight Grade 1. Carlos Dunlap* DE Florida 6-5¾ 293 96 2. Sam Bradford* QB Oklahoma 6-4 214 96 3. Gerald McCoy* DT Oklahoma 6-3½ 296 96 4. Eric Berry* S Tennessee 5-11¼ 204 96 5. Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 6-3⅞ 295 95 6. Jake Locker* QB Washington 6-2¼ 222 95 7. Russell Okung OT Oklahoma State 6-8 299 95 8. Trent Williams OT Oklahoma 6-5 306 94 9. Taylor Mays S USC 6-3 236 94 10. Navorro Bowman* OLB Penn State 6-1½ 231 94 11. Dez Bryant* WR Oklahoma State 6-2 217 94 12. Joe Haden* CB Florida 5-11⅜ 191 94 13. Greg Hardy DE Mississippi 6-4 261 94 14. Brandon LaFell WR LSU 6-2⅜ 207 93 15. Jevan Snead* QB Mississippi 6-2½ 217 93 16. Jahvid Best* RB California 5-9¾ 198 93 17. Rolando McClain* ILB Alabama 6-3½ 245 93 18. Colt McCoy QB Texas 6-3 211 92 19. Arrelious Benn* WR Illinois 6-1⅝ 221 92 20. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas 6-4 236 92 21. Arthur Jones DT Syracuse 6-3 302 92 22. Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 6-3 252 92 23. C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 5-10¾ 196 92 24. Javier Arenas CB Alabama 5-8½ 192 91 25. Jimmy Clausen* QB Notre Dame 6-2¾ 217 91 26. Ricky Sapp DE Clemson 6-4 245 91 27. Jared Odrick DT Penn State 6-4 306 91 28. Patrick Robinson CB Florida State 5-11⅛ 192 90 29. Jonathan Dwyer* RB Georgia Tech 5-11⅛ 234 90 30. Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma 6-6 262 90 31. Jerry Hughes OLB TCU 6-1¾ 252 90 32. Brandon Graham DE Michigan 6-0¾ 274 90
Kiper's latest update - kind of interesting that he would throw a new QB onto the big board and put him that high while Pike was added last week and is still at the bottom of the list Big Board 1 Sam Bradford QB 6-4 223 Analysis: Has underrated arm, great feel for position; super accurate. Last week: No. 1 2 Eric Berry DB5-11203 Analysis: Ultimate play maker, in the Ed Reed mold. Last week: No. 2 3 Ndamukong Suh DT 6-4 300 Analysis: Explosive, relentless and consistent. Last week: No. 3 4 Jake Locker QB 6-3 226 Analysis: Developing talent whose physical tools are unmatched. Last week: NR 5 Gerald McCoy DT 6-4 297 Analysis: Disruptive force. Productive NFL career ahead. Last week: No. 4 6 Carlos Dunlap DE 6-6 290 Analysis: Physical tools are off the charts. Unlimited upside potential. Last week: No. 5 7 Taylor Mays DB 6-3 230 Analysis: LB size and CB speed. Last week: No. 7 8 Dez Bryant WR 6-2 220 Analysis: Dynamic receiver, punt returner and TD maker. Last week: No. 8 9 Colt McCoy QB 6-2 210 Analysis: Intelligent and resourceful. Can beat you with arm or legs. Last week: No. 6 10 Russell Okung OT 6-5 300 Analysis: Athletic, strong and fiery blind-side pass protector. Last week: No. 9 11 Jimmy Clausen QB 6-3 223 Analysis: Polished QB, at his best when game is on the line. Last week: NR 12 Terrence Cody DT 6-5 365 Analysis: Tremendous clogger along the interior. Last week: No. 11 13 Sean Weatherspoon LB 6-2 245 Analysis: Makes plays all over the field. Last week: No. 12 14 Greg Hardy DE 6-5 275 Analysis: Difference-maker harassing the QB when at full strength. Last week: No. 13 15 Jahvid Best RB 5-10 195 Analysis: Versatile, game-breaker supreme. Last week: No. 10 16 C.J. Spiller RB 5-11 195 Analysis: Multitalented, super fast, electrifying game-breaker. Last week: No. 14 17 Jermaine Gresham TE 6-6 258 Analysis: The best pass-catching tight end in college football. Last week: 17 18 Sergio Kindle LB 6-4 255 Analysis: Production finally matched his talent last season. Last week: No. 15 19 Jerry Hughes DE 6-3 257 Analysis: Prolific pass-rusher who could be a 3-4 OLB. Last week: No. 19 20 Brandon Spikes LB 6-3 243 Analysis: Complete MLB, solid in all areas. Last week: No. 21 21 Tony Pike QB 6-6 225 Analysis: Height, mechanics, arm strength and accuracy are all impressive. Last week: 23 22 Eric Norwood LB 6-1 252 Analysis: Productive, versatile pass-rusher, ideal 3-4 OLB in the NFL. Last week: 24 23 Trent Williams OT 6-5 318 Analysis: Quality bookend, moved from RT to LT this season. Last week: No. 18 24 Charles Brown OT 6-5 285 Analysis: All the skills you look for in a topflight NFL left tackle. Last week: No. 20 25 Brandon Graham DE 6-2 270 Analysis: Awesome athlete and force off the edge. Last week: No. 16
Any thoughts on a Dez Bryant or Gresham first round selection? Is Gresham the truth as advertised or is he fools gold as well?
Both are worthy of a first rounder, IMO. I just think Bryant's more worthy. He's an elite prospect. Gresham can stretch the field and work the middle as well as anyone but his blocking is a bit pedestrian. He's not the blocker that Pettigrew was last year - though very few are - and he's more of an interference blocker. Gresham also has concentration issues IMO. He drops balls he shouldn't. I would say Gresham's worthy of a late teens to mid twenties pick if you're an offense that relies on a pass catching tight end.
And the shuffling continues ... Scout's Inc: 1. Carlos Dunlap* DE Florida 96 2. Gerald McCoy* DT Oklahoma 96 3. Eric Berry* S Tennessee 96 4. Sam Bradford* QB Oklahoma 95 5. Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 95 6. Jake Locker* QB Washington 94 7. Russell Okung OT Okla. State 94 8. Taylor Mays S USC 94 9. Trent Williams OT Oklahoma 6-5 10. Dez Bryant* WR Okla. State 93 11. Rolando McClain* ILB Alabama 93 12. Joe Haden* CB Florida 93 13. Greg Hardy DE Mississippi 92 14. Marvin Austin* DT N. Carolina 92 15. Jahvid Best* RB California 92 16. Navorro Bowman* OLB Penn State 92 17. Arrelious Benn* WR Illinois 92 18. C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 91 19. Colt McCoy QB Texas 91 20. Brandon LaFell WR LSU 91 21. Derrick Morgan* DE Georgia Tech 91 22. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas 91 23. Arthur Jones DT Syracuse 90 24. Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 90 25. Jimmy Clausen* QB Notre Dame 90 26. Jermaine Gresham TE Oklahoma 90 27. Patrick Robinson CB Florida State 90 28. Jonathan Dwyer* RB Georgia Tech 90 29. Ricky Sapp DE Clemson 90 30. Jevan Snead* QB Mississippi 89 31. Javier Arenas CB Alabama 89 32. Jared Odrick DT Penn State 89