http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...e-old-problems-for-dolphins-despite-cap-space
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Ouch. That wasn't pretty.
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whole lot of nothing and speculation in that article. Sign Grimes, Sign POuncey to an extension. Go get Brandon Albert. Keep Starks. Then we can focus on improving our guard play. The speculation that Philbin might start Moore if Tannehill doesn't keep progressing is BS. Moore isn't nearly as good as Tannehill is right now, even if Tannehill didn't make another leap in his play.
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You aren't going to get 'pretty' articles this offseason. Your going to get a lot of media pile on.
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As I said in the Club, the general tenor of the article is definitely glass half empty and if anyone wants to disregard that I think that's completely fair.
However there are interesting revelations and pieces of information in the article.
The first and most jaw-dropping is hearing from someone that spoke to Joe Philbin specifically about the quarterback situation say that Philbin said to him outright he's frustrated with Tannehill and want to see him make progress or else he's putting in Matt Moore whom he's very high on. That's a bombshell.
The second was JLC's revelation that Hickey has a two year deal with a team option third year. This makes PERFECT sense when you consider the Dolphins threw the original report of a simple two year deal back in the faces of the reporters and said it's not a two year deal, but then refused to say what it actually was. The Dolphins were taking refuge in a technicality, like they did when Steve Ross never actually went to China even though his jet was scheduled to go there and the flight was canceled due to weather. The Dolphins just pretended they didn't know where that report was coming from.
The third interesting thing were the quotes from one of the guys we interviewed for GM. I just thought some of the ways he positioned things was a little interesting with respect to budgeting and whatnot.Mile High Fin, ASOT, NaboCane and 4 others like this. -
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I am more excited about the OL rebuild than I am disappointed we may have to replace 3-4 starters on what I think we can call a disastrous OL last season. Tannehill needs to get better, sure, but the dude is still behind the curve for games started through college/Pros. Matt Moore looked awful in the spot duty he did have this season. I can see if we start losing early games and Philbin sees his future evaporating him switching o save his job.
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Heh, sounds to me like Philbin is screwing with Tannehill
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If I actually trusted them I would be excited about the OL rebuild.
With them clearing this much dead wood out of the way on the OL this is a real opportunity to build a line cohesively and thematically that you think all fit together perfect for what you're trying to do. You can get all guys that are mobile and quick or you can get all guys that are big and brutish, etc. You have an opportunity to create a line that doesn't look like a patchwork of this or that, dependent on who fell off the map, retired, went to another place for more money, etc.
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I can understand being frustrated with Tannehill. That Buffalo turd was one of the worst games by a QB in NFL history (according to http://www.footballperspective.com/ryan-tannehill-had-one-of-the-worst-passing-games-ever/ anyway). But to push Moore that strongly? I'd rather draft another first rounder.
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True, if the evaluations blow (ala' LB switch last year) they are creating a bigger more expensive mess at OL. Here's hoping with the new OC and the Texan's OL coach on board they will get some better evaluations. Got my fingers crossed they do build a cohesive OL with a vision for how they would like them to look and play.
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Article is on the money. (some of the coloring as usual is unnecessary.)
I do not understand why we need to resign one of Starks and Soliai. They are not worth the money. They hardly win the battles in the trenches.
We won 7 games consistently with Jake long, We won 8 without him. He was a non-factor and too expensive as well.
With so many contracts up for renewal, in the secondary, Oline, Dline, the team is not going to compete next year.
It's time to focus on draft, prudent spending, and building long term.
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I doubt very much if Philbin would sit Tannehill in favor of Moore mainly because no QB would have succeeded this past season with this putrid OL and Philbin, if he has any sense at all, would realize this. Its probably more of trying to light a fire under Tannehills *** and keep him focused then anything else. If our OL improves next season and Tannehill struggles to progress( especially with his pocket awareness) then it might make more sense to even think about changing QB`s. I`m sure ( or at least hoping) Tannehill gets a fair shot to show us his progress going into his 3rd season.
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Anyone remember the quote that goes with this….?
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I would let Soliai and Starks walk and use that saved money on my OL targets. Shelby and Francis are capable of playing alongside Odrick. One interesting piece of our OL is Brenner. Can he step up and grab the starting LG position? He has the size and speed and athletic ability Philbin desires. He is a little nasty as well. If Brenner can do this it will take some pressure off Hickey and allow Hickey to focus on 3 spots instead of 4. That would mean we could either sign 2 FA's and draft one or vise versa. Then we can extend Pouncey.
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"He definitely wants to push Tannehill more," said one source who has spoken to Philbin about the quarterbacks, "and if he doesn't see improvement he said he might go to Moore at some point. He definitely has a lot of faith in Moore, and they're paying him a lot of money."
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Really? Moore? The guy with as many picks as completions this year? Really?
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If Philbin meant that as anything more than motivation, he Is an idiot.
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finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member
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I don't have a problem with what Philbin said and I still have a lot of faith in Philbin. As I've said a million times, there's a lot I like about Tanne. He put a lot on his shoulders this past season. He had some great moments, but he also had some really bad moments. Honestly, I was hoping to see more improvements. I still haven't given up all hope, but unlike some here, I am certainly not about to anoint him as that savior, franchise QB, whom we've all been hoping to find for so long now. He's had some good moments, but some terrible moments as well. He left A LOT of plays on the field this past season. A big problem I have with him is when he drops back, he doesn't seem to scan the field and go through all of the progressions. He looks one way and goes that way. It's like the ooposite of what Dan the Man said in that convo with Bill Walsh when Walsh asks him: "What are you looking at when you drop back? What's your first read?..or something like that and Dan says; "Hey, I just see the open man and I'm going to hit him" Tanne needs some of that in his game. Yes. I think Sherman did a poor job at moving him around and moving the pocket, but Tanne just left too many plays on the field. That last Jets game was pretty much all on Tanne. He was terrible. If we don't see serious improvements this coming season, I think it will be time to start getting worried. I haven't lost faith. There's A LOT I like about him. We are just going to have see him take another step in order to keep any hope alive. I hope the new OC is a big help.
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And she is an acceptable choice as well. Allison Brie has the more approachable, girl next door look, though, which I prefer.
If you were in college and sat next to Brie, you might think you had a chance (even though you don't). With scarlett, you wouldn't even bother.
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Don't agree about Sarah Silverman though, big step down and I find her a little annoying.
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sure i´m just a fan and don´t have that much inside info on why philbin would be putting Tannehill on a short leash...thats a real WTF moment for me...the guy was sacked almost 60 times (granted some of them were on him for holding the ball to long) had no running game and played almost every snap...he is a tough SOB...his TD´s went way up from last year too....philbin can go and **** himself...what a douche
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Is Lizzy Caplan on Masters of Sex? -
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She also actually looks Jewish, unlike ScarJo and some of the others. The semetic look is very important to some of us :lol:
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