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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by cobrajet, Sep 6, 2010.

  1. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Miami -3 at Buffalo : Points = 38.5

    Knowing that the bookies usually give 3 points for home field advantage that means the bookies don’t have much confidence in us if the spread is that close. I can’t wait to prove them wrong.


    What are your score predictions for the game??
     
  2. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    basically we are 6 pt favorites? on the road. division rival? ill take it. its week one. the lines arent much different across the board.
     
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  3. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Opening weekend is a crapshoot. Unless you have the defending champs facing the team that had the number one draft pick from the year before, Vegas oddsmakers tend to wait until week 2 before you see any big shifts.

    But Sick is right, if we are road favorites by three points, that means that they see us beating Buffalo by 6 or so. I don't want to give to omuch away about this week's manifesto...but the conclusion is shared by my software and projections as well. :shifty:
     
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  4. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    The only thing they have correct are the points (38)...... all of which will be scored by Miami. :shifty:
     
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  5. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I'll go with 24-10. Missing Allen, Crowder and Long could change that however.
     
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  6. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    However, to be fair and accurate, if I take home field into consideration it will be 35-3. :lol:
     
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  7. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Oh and I would DEFINITELY take the under for this game.
     
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  8. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Agreed.
     
  9. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I think Miami -3 is the same as saying Buffalo +3, and if that is the case and the usually give 3 points for home field advantage - than they are calling us even. But you guys are right, on week 1 it's tough for anyone to predict this.

    I guess if you wanna beat the line, week one would be the time to do it because the bookies are in the dark. :wink2:
     
  10. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    No, I'm pretty sure if Buffalo was (-3) we would be considered even.
     
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  11. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Darn it - you're right.

    -Sorry boys
     
  12. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    How do you think CJ Spiller will impact things if he starts? Will it hurt or help Barfallo?
     
  13. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    He can only help. The edges have to be sealed or we're in for one long damn game.
     
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  14. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Spiller won't be doing much in the game past the first qtr. the Bills offensive line will not be able to set the edge against us, and spiller won't grind it out up the middle.

    He's a great talent, but the blocking won't be there.
     
  15. Wildcat23

    Wildcat23 Here kitty kitty

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    Help. A lot.
     
  16. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    ''welcome to my world, the world of red bull''
     
  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I like the matchup of Jason allen on their run game.
     
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  18. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Hits like a Safety.
     
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  19. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    exactly. rule of thumb is wait at least until week 3 before placing bets.
     
  20. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    I've already got money on a 7pt same game teaser with BUF +10.5 and OVER 31.
     
  21. firedan

    firedan Well-Known Member

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    If we can't stop the screen pass Spiller will hurt us.
     
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  22. Tone_E

    Tone_E Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Because he is one. :shifty:
     
  23. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    I am praying we win. I'll say 24-21 Dolphins.
     
  24. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    called it last week Miami by 3
    a win is a win & gives us
    another week to hone the blade

    would not underestimate Buffalo
    1) they are always difficult @ home
    2) they have excellent speed
    3) after drafting Martin they add to that speed
    & will know much about our plans on game day

    this may prove to be a more difficult game one than most think
     
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  25. Merauder

    Merauder Perseverance

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    How many of you bet on the Dolphins? I did it once, and it was the game against Houston when Trent Green almost died. They lost but I won the bet since they covered. The next week I put it all on the line against Cleveland. I thought "Ok they are playing the Browns. Win #1 in the books." Ted Ginn got robbed of the second half kickoff return for TD and the rest was history on the way to 1-15. In summary, I will NEVER bet on the Dolphins again after that. They probably would have beat Houston and Cleveland if I had never bet on those games. 1-15 was all my fault.
     
  26. gioknows

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    I'm worried the same thing is going to happen as last year when each team creamed the other at home.
     
  27. texasPHINSfan

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    Perhaps, but I still think Spiller finds ways to gash us; swing-outs, screens, etc.

    And I'm going to predict that Evans burns us again for a TD; it seems we always let him through for at least one. Our secondary this year doesn't exactly inspire any more confidence than it did last year.
     
  28. GMJohnson

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    Langford, Starks, Dansby, Dobbins. I'd say he has quite a few problems.

    Unfortunately for Bills, Ronnie is healthy this time. Our offense died in November after Ricky tired out and Lex sucks as a runner. Not a problem this time around, and there wont be any 1st and goal WC passes for INTs either. The Bills are an over matched team on both sides of the ball, especially at the LOS. Your secondary is good, but it wont help vs our running game, and none of your corners can stop Marshall one on one. Since its week one, I expect a close game, for a half or so. Once the adrenaline wears off, it'll be Miami in control.

    Of course penalties, turnovers, special teams gaffes can make a mockery of any prediction, but I'm going to say 23-13 Fins. For the fellow gamblers, that's Miami laying the points (-3), and the UNDER (39).
     
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  29. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    If only CJ had 10 other players on his offense
     
  30. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Unless he can magically transform himself into paper-thin Kate Moss when he hits the line, he WILL have a problem running between the tackles against us. If you're line is being collapsed, then he's not going through it. Simple physics. Poor blocking most certainly DOES stop Spiller. Poor blocking stopped him in college, and it doesn't get any easier to evade defenders in the pros.

    PS: I find it quite humorous that you watch a few preseason Bills games and now all of a sudden you're an expert on CJ Spiller. :sidelol:
     
  31. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    The only way Spiller is going to cause us problems is in space..... and he's not going to see much of that between the tackles. He'll probably pop a few nice plays, but that won't be enough as the Bills will most likely be playing catch up to where CJ is somewhat removed from the equation.
     
  32. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    I think Spiller will test our OLB's because running up the middle on us will not be an option. He's an incredible talent and in the open field he could be dangerous. If I am Gailey I would pass to him in the flats and let him test our safety's. I think this is where he would be the most dangerous.

    Chan Gailey has a task ahead of him because this is the first "non-southern', cold weather team that he has coached and he won't have a game plan ready for playing football in the middle of winter and with Barfallo's swirling winds. He was a horrid choice for a coach up there and as the weather worsens it will show.
     
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  33. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    correct on both points...:yes:
     
  34. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Look for them to pass to Spiller out of the backfield to try to get him behind our line so he can use his speed against our DB's. Our D had better nail him good a few times early in the game to make him think twice about getting cute. (welcome to the NFL Spiller, now let me put your ribs back in)
     
  35. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    It is scary. Lets revisit this in a few days.
     
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  36. huck1974

    huck1974 FU Gene Steratore

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    Your not going to gain any respect here if you continue to spew poop out of your fingertips and onto your keyboard. I can smell you and your city from here.
     
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  37. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Are we talking the recurring "turf" pinkie toe?.... or the other one? :shifty:
     
  38. ToddsPhins

    ToddsPhins Banned

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    Since you're the obvious expert on Spiller and seem to know him so well while the rest of us haven't a clue, why don't you tell us how many CJ games you've seen besides the handful of quarters he's played in during preseason.

    You're comment is as silly as me saying: "you're running back aint scary. He's just a rookie." It goes both ways you know.

    Come back next Monday and tell us how scary our Dline is after it's spent more time in your backfield than Spiller has. :wink2:

    Our Dline SHUTS DOWN most inside ground games. Ask MJD, Chris Johnson, and Michael Turner how fun it is to try and run inside against us...... and that's before factoring in Soliai, Langford, and McDaniel improving while upgrading Merling with Odrick..... and the "first time NT" is a proven dominant Dlineman who is an upgrade over Jason Ferguson. Not to mention, this "first time NT" can shift over to end when Soliai comes in to blow up the middle of your line.
     
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  39. cobrajet

    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    Spiller is indeed quite talented. This should be a good test for both our new defense and your new coach / RB. Best of luck to you. This will be a good game.
     
  40. ToddsPhins

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    I for one am not doubting Buffalo. They should offer some great competition....... for-us-to-poop-on!! :chuckle: I kid, I kid.
     
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    cobrajet Mr. Ross - sell the team!

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    The scary thing about Buffalo is how unpredictable the first game of a new coaches regime can be. You never know if the expectation is low or high because you have nothing to measure it against. This game will be cool because both teams have been overhauled in the last few months.
     
  42. Agua

    Agua Reality: Try It!

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    I'm verrrrry suspicious that this Barfalo team is going to be a lot better than folks around here are giving them credit for. You better believe they are going to be fired up for their home opener under a new staff.
     
  43. VanDolPhan

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    Langford still draws a lot of double teams. Starks isn't a first time NT, he has played there before...it's just a more permanent move there. Quite a few times this preseason he's blown up the double team in the middle and picked up a sack. If you study Starks you'll see that most of his big plays have come playing inside as he feels more comfortable there since he started his career as a DT for the Titans. However, he might still play some at DE due to the rapid sudden improvement in Soliai.

    As for Odrick what a rediculous comeback with the "he's a rookie" bit...so is Spiller. Odrick has also played well enough that this team cut both Douglas and Grant. The strength of this Miami D is the DL and inside linebackers. The question marks come at OLB, FS, nickelback and whether Jason Allen has truly improved to actually beat out Sean for that CB spot.

    Unlike the others though I won't count out Chan. He put together a pretty solid offense with Lamar Smith, Jay and a barely average OL. I still think Miami gets their running game going and eeks out a 27-24 win as I think Edwards will get a couple long plays in there with the inexperience of the DB's.
     

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