Lazor analyzes the state of the Offense

"Disgustipate wrote:

I don't think Lazor has done anything to guarantee a continued job in the NFL as an offensive coordinator, much less garner attention as a head coach.

I have questions as well..

"TooGoodForDez wrote:

Dude can't playcall, he needs to focus on it and learn to playcall on game days. He is the main reason we lost 5 games.

Im not an x's and o's guy, but i feel confident when I say our qb's skill set has been underutilized.

"Disgustipate wrote:

There was a total lack of accountability until it was forced during the Richie Incognito deal, and he refused to not throw anyone under the bus to such an extent that he couldn't make appropriate decisions in re: to Mike Sherman.

Philbin's act only goes so far.

I think everyone is sort of over that. It certainly did happen under his watch, and he is ultimately accountable. But to expect Philbin to know what happened off-campus is not realistic. Now what happened in-house is highly questionable.

What is happening this year does not feel like an act. It seems genuine, regardless of the catalyst. I truly appreciate it, even if he does ultimately lose his position.

"Disgustipate wrote:

I don't think Lazor has done anything to guarantee a continued job in the NFL as an offensive coordinator, much less garner attention as a head coach.

I can't say I agree with you at all.

"TooGoodForDez wrote:

Dude can't playcall, he needs to focus on it and learn to playcall on game days. He is the main reason we lost 5 games.

Baloney. Execution is why we lost all our games.

"djphinfan wrote:

Im not an x's and o's guy, but i feel confident when I say our qb's skill set has been underutilized.

Well... with all due respect, then you need to ask someone who is an X's and O's guy.

Like me.

And, I can say with full confidence that this offense is PERFECT for Tannehill's skillset. What is holding back Tannehill are a bad offensive line, no real threat at running back, and Tanny's own inability to avoid pressure in the pocket.

It ABSOLUTELY is not Lazor's version of Kelly's zone read offense that is holding him back in any way. Period.

"Larry Little wrote:

Baloney. Execution is why we lost all our games.

X2

You will find a head scratcher or two in just about any NFL game. But as a whole? Lazor is just fine.

"Larry Little wrote:

When I watch Bill Lazor, I wonder if I'm looking at our next head coach.

You read my mind. I was telling my friend in Texas that this guy has HC written all over him...

"CashInFist wrote:

You read my mind. I was telling my friend in Texas that this guy has HC written all over him...

Sounds like midlife crisis.

"TooGoodForDez wrote:

Sounds like midlife crisis.

I'm WAY ahead of you on that topic Dez...

"TooGoodForDez wrote:

Sounds like midlife crisis.

It's my birthday, and my whole world is crashing down around me. And idk what to do...

"Larry Little wrote:

Well... with all due respect, then you need to ask someone who is an X's and O's guy.

Like me.

And, I can say with full confidence that this offense is PERFECT for Tannehill's skillset. What is holding back Tannehill are a bad offensive line, no real threat at running back, and Tanny's own inability to avoid pressure in the pocket.

It ABSOLUTELY is not Lazor's version of Kelly's zone read offense that is holding him back in any way. Period.

let me rephrase..knowing what a skill set can do from a positional perspective relative to what were actually seeing, has nothing to do with x's and o's..also, a rhythmic feel for calling plays doesn't either..

Lazor is doing a decent job with the skill set imo, but both he and Ryan need to embrace it more and start to practice certain aspects of it so we can all get the most out of it..

having 2/7 yards in the seasons most pivotal home game is not acceptable, your leaving skill set on the field in a loss.

"CashInFist wrote:

It's my birthday, and my whole world is crashing down around me. And idk what to do...

ask "What would Ricky Bobby do?"

I love how every thread since the Ravens game, turns into a search for a new head coach.

Everybody is turning into Ross. Can we at least wait until Philbin is fired? I don't think that is going to happen, I think he gets one more year. Either way, I refuse to entertain these head coach search discussions, until Philbin is fired.

Tick Tock

"djphinfan wrote:

let me rephrase..knowing what a skill set can do from a positional perspective relative to what were actually seeing, has nothing to do with x's and o's..also, a rhythmic feel for calling plays doesn't either..

Lazor is doing a decent job with the skill set imo, but both he and Ryan need to embrace it more and start to practice certain aspects of it so we can all get the most out of it..

having 2/7 yards in the seasons most pivotal home game is not acceptable, your leaving skill set on the field in a loss.

Gotcha.

My reply to that is... Lazor can call the plays but he cannot execute them. Very rarely have I seen us stall on a drive and come to the conclusion that it was a bad play call. It almost always has been a lineman getting beaten, Tanny not avoiding pressure, a WR dropping a pass right in his hands... execution issues. I think a lot of that has to do with this being year one of running this offense and our inability to give Tannehill ample time to make his reads and throw.

It isn't the playcalling.

"RickyNeverInhaled wrote:

Everybody is turning into Ross. Can we at least wait until Philbin is fired? I don't think that is going to happen, I think he gets one more year. Either way, I refuse to entertain these head coach search discussions, until Philbin is fired.

Agreed. I think he stays. Personally, I want to see one more year. At the moment, that's where my line is drawn.

"Larry Little wrote:

Gotcha.

My reply to that is... Lazor can call the plays but he cannot execute them. Very rarely have I seen us stall on a drive and come to the conclusion that it was a bad play call. It almost always has been a lineman getting beaten, Tanny not avoiding pressure, a WR dropping a pass right in his hands... execution issues. I think a lot of that has to do with this being year one of running this offense and our inability to give Tannehill ample time to make his reads and throw.

It isn't the playcalling.

I have really enjoyed this offense...totally different from what we have seen in a long time. Only complaint would be a better balance between the run/pass. I would like to see Miller with at least 20 carries once. I do understand that game circumstances dictate leaving the running game sometimes, but just a few more attempts would do wonders.

Very few games, this year, have we been so out of it we had to abandon the run. We just seem to do it every game for some reason.

"Larry Little wrote:

Gotcha.

My reply to that is... Lazor can call the plays but he cannot execute them. Very rarely have I seen us stall on a drive and come to the conclusion that it was a bad play call. It almost always has been a lineman getting beaten, Tanny not avoiding pressure, a WR dropping a pass right in his hands... execution issues. I think a lot of that has to do with this being year one of running this offense and our inability to give Tannehill ample time to make his reads and throw.

It isn't the playcalling.

maybe so, I want to see more runs from the qb, more pocket movement, and i want to see the qb be encouraged to run the freakin ball if the play breaks down, instead of just eating it and going thru progressions when in fact you don't have the damn protection to be going thru multiple progressions, its like they want him to execute a system from the pocket and are just ignoring the facts that the pocket is being consistently compromised.

"mullingan wrote:

Very few games, this year, have we been so out of it we had to abandon the run. We just seem to do it every game for some reason.

Seems like they're protecting Miller, and his backups haven't done enough to warrant more carries.

"KeyFin wrote:

My internet is messing up and the video wouldn't stream. If anyone could give a quick recap, I'd be highly interested in hearing it.

excuse after excuse and talking about getting back in the rhythm.

To get back into the rhythm don't you first have to possess it?

"Piston Honda wrote:

Seems like they're protecting Miller, and his backups haven't done enough to warrant more carries.

Protecting him from what? The playoffs we most likely won't be a part of?

"djphinfan wrote:

maybe so, I want to see more runs from the qb, more pocket movement, and i want to see the qb be encouraged to run the freakin ball if the play breaks down, instead of just eating it and going thru progressions when in fact you don't have the damn protection to be going thru multiple progressions, its like they want him to execute a system from the pocket and are just ignoring the facts that the pocket is being consistently compromised.

I think Lazor is caught between a rock and a hard place when it comes to protecting Tannehill. When he doesn't leave in extra guys, Tanny has almost instant pressure in his face. If he leaves in extra guys to protect, Tanny has no TE or RB to check it down to. Not to mention the running game hasn't really helped him out.

Hey, ya know... losing Albert was big. I don't know how many teams can say that if their LT went down that they wouldn't lose much. With us... it was a killer. James has done an absolute bang-up job moving over to LT. He's been fantastic. However, Dallas Thomas has not played well at RT at all. He needs to step it up.

I'm very aware that last part was a huge understatement. :wink2:

But, yeah... I agree Tannehill could use his legs more, and not just out of the zone read formations.