...Or is he simply confirming an obvious flaw in our young QBs game, I'd say so. We all want to see Ryan evolve into a top teir QB and this flaw needs remedied. There won't be as much pressure on Ryan to make these throws as ther was before considering it was our #1 WRs biggest strength, so perhaps that will make a difference. http://espn.go.com/blog/miami-dolph...-deep-ball-weve-got-to-figure-it-out-together
I'd be more worried if Wallace had spent a lot of extra time working on the deep ball with Tannehill. He didn't. There were reports of other receivers and Tannehill working extra together, and Wallace was never one of them. There were also times the press pushed Philbin on why he didn't give Wallace and Tannehill more deep ball reps in practice, and Philbin essentially said it wasn't important enough and you couldn;t have Wallace run gassers (more like, "I'm scared to tell Mike to run gassers.") Regardless, the extra work to BUILD that chemistry did not happen. Now, I have already heard of Stills and Landry working with Tannehill as far back as March. Parker seems like the sort of guy who will do what the olders guys are all doing, so I expect he'll also get in extra deep ball work with Tannehill. This year, we will see all that extra work pay off. There will be a better deep passing game this seaosn. Maybe not DRASTICALLY better, but at least noticeably better!
The article makes it seem as if Lazor is saying all of those things specifically because of the deep ball. If you watch the interview, the deep ball question is only a very minor part of everything that he said and he doesn't acknowledge at any point that it's only Tannehill's fault. Check out the narrative-free interview and draw your own conclusions: http://www.miamidolphins.com/multim..._Offense/95ed4fcb-356c-483f-9af3-aef15238a682
And I LOVE Lazor being honest. It's sad that so many people in this society hate the truth just because it isn't what they want to hear (not pointing at you, Fin-O, just in general) There is no way to improve if we, as a culture, want to be lied to and told everything is perfect when it is not. You have to CARE about someone to tell the truth. The REAL haters are the ones who are gutless and only tell you what you want to hear.
lets not pretend, as it pertains to the deep ball, the qb needs to get better at his timing, vision, anticipation, speed up his footwork all the while slowing down the processor, catching up mentally to the right tempo for the deep ball.
Yup. It's not a natural strength for Tanny... but he is improving in every other area. I feel like this one will improve this year.
Is what it is, most of us have the ability to recognize its been an issue. The good news is that now we don't really need him to make that throw to change games. DJ is right and at this point improving on the deep pass shouldn't be priority number 1. Back. Shoulder. Throw. That IMO will be the throw we need from Ryan in 2015.
[SUP][/SUP]I do and have always believed Wallace was part of the problem. A bigger one than most think. Tannehill is not great at the deep ball but i for one am sick and tired of big money drama queens at wr. I hope we never "pay" a wr again. (Unless it's devante signing a second contract cause that means he's done really well.) I bet these young guys come down with 2 or 3x as many deep balls this year
I think his pocket presence is #1. He needs to develop those "Eyes in the Back of His Head" like all the great ones have/had.
I don't want to blame everything on Wallace, but Tannehill always seemed to have respectable deep balls to almost everyone else. Even though the sample size is small, the stats seem to back that up. Out of curiosity, does Tannehill have a mechanics coach during the off-season? Most QB's do, but I've never heard him bring it up.
He completed ZERO passes past 30 yards to anyone not named Wallace. The numbers just don't bear this perception out. The disconnect between Wallace and Tanny was all about experience. Tanny hesitates every so slightly and waits for Wallace to be open before throwing it. That usually causes Wallace to be out of range. A few of Big Bens bombs to Wallace have him recognizing Wallace was going to beat his man and the ball being released before he actually does. It's a comfort issue. Big Ben was in his what, 9th, 10th year, or whatever. Throwing 20 yards to Hartline on a comeback is infinitely easier than to Wallace on a 9 route.
Conclusion: Hartline isn't here anymore for more short passes without yac. The youngsters at WR (surehand Landry and highjump Parker) will catch everything thrown their way in the short and medium range. Stills will catch some deep TD passes which Tannehill is capable to throw now in his fourth year. Enter Cameron for some mismatches. Just my wet dreams or could all this really happen?
Just because it's his fourth year doesn't mean he'll magically start connecting on deep TD passes. It would be nice to see.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...olphins-quarterback-ryan-tannehills-deep-ball Just for kicks, theres a bleacher report article on his deep ball, talking about his 2012 and 2013 seasons. It's pretty clear in the article that Tannehill's deep ball was much worse when thrown Wallace's way. I believe this was CK's work.
Lazor is historically "hard" on QBs period. Unless RT turns into Aaron Rodgers you likely won't ever hear him gush over RT. There is always something to improve upon and Lazor is going to point that out. I love that. Let Joey P be the good cop to Lazor's bad cop.
Concerning the original article by James Walker I wasn't particular impressed with it. The Lazor quotes weren't anything new and barely touched on the deep ball issue. It seemed to stem more from Walker's analysis of some ESPN stats on Tannehill's passes of 30+ yards. I'd be curious to see those stats, not because I don't think Tannehill might have struggled, but because stats on throws pass 30+ yards specifically are rather hard to come by, I find. NFL.com lists 20+ and 40+ and don't list percentages. ESPN stats is the same. So if he's going to reference hard to find stats I'd like to see them and I'd like some comparison with other QB's at those stats.
Why does everyone have to be a hater when there opinion differs or they have a negative opinion of something?? They are opinion's. Calling someone a hater for having a negative opinion is equal to saying this person's opinion doesn't matter, because ------- he is a hater. What is a hater??? The only reason one person's opinion would matter is because someone else gives it weight which makes it matter. It seems as if this is generational name calling. When this generation doesn't get or hear what it wants you are called a hater in an attempt to discredit your opinion in someway. When the term "hater" is used, all I can do is roll my eyes, and wait for this person using the term to throw them selves on the floor kicking and screaming.........wahhhhhhhhh People are afraid of being labeled a "hater or racist".t I say people who feel it necessary to name call should get over themselves already. Your opinion that someone else is a hater matters no more then the opinion you are trying to discredit. All they are doing is verbally bullying whoever they are conversing with. (not aimed at Fin-O)
lol I know that For some reason people don't like that label. I know your not a hater bro...............lol
Because it's his progression. We can talk about 2012 if you'd like. Tanny is a 76 rating range of QB. It's his most recent year, in his new offense so you place the most weight with it. Offensive systems affect deep passes as well, go see Charles Haley in Pittsburgh.
