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Lighten up...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Pandarilla, Nov 23, 2015.

  1. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Cheer up, there's still plenty to be happy about this season:

    -Philbin is still gone and the ghostly residue still lingers but is slowly dripping away.

    -We now know our offense is predicated on the offensive line getting beat. I know, I just realized that all by myself. Lazor you clever bugga. I'm thinking of writing a short story called "The Dallas Thomas Code." It'll read like "The Grapes of Wrath" only more depressing.

    -At least your not Ryan Fitzpatrick, who probably lost all his Harvard education on that brutal head to head that ended up having no bearing on the game.

    -Lamar Miller still has a good yard per carry average...Sure he had a chance to break a franchise record for most consecutive games with a touchdown but now we might get to keep him at a cheaper price. Genius!

    -Bill Lazor still has the best hair in the NFL. I know it's looked a little wispy this week, but you've got to use conditioner at some point. Friday Night Lights head coach can eat his heart out.

    -I haven't seen Walter or Charlie since the offseason, I miss those guys. Gonna be good to catch up. They're funny, always mocking each other.

    -No safety this week, aww yeah...

    -Walt Aikens reminds me of an Iraqi scud missile, lol.

    -The refs really got to hone their technique in throwing games. Thought they got really creative with that momentum killing one on Pouncey. It's harder than it looks...

    ...and finally

    [video]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M[/video]
     
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  2. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    We're not keeping Miller. Unless we over pay. That's a pipe dream and would be a pretty stupid position to over spend just to keep Lamar. A good run blocking OL can make just about any RB look good.
     
  3. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Well that's genius, Idra...So what you're telling me is that if you want a good run game, all you have to do is have good blocking! Is that it? Because it's brilliant! Why don't you write a book, give seminars, you'll make a million dollars!
     
  4. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    For the most part... yes.

    Here's a quick and easy example. DeMarco Murray with Dallas/DeMarco Murray with Philly. His avg is now 3.7. His career with Dallas I believe he was above 5.0 ypc. A lot of people were really hoping we'd sign Murray too I believe.

    Ajayi could replace Miller and we probably wouldn't lose a step. It's cute how you guys get attached to players though.
     
  5. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Oh, you'll be happy to know, Dallas still has a thriving running game, even without Romo they still avged 4.3 ypc on Runningback by committee.

    But they could have went the route of overspending for Murray, and achieved next to nothing by doing so except adding to their cap.
     
  6. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    Me personally, I'm just going to blame chemtrails for your generation...
     
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  7. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    And when I'm right you're just gonna pretend like this conversation never happened I'm sure. Lol.
     
  8. Pandarilla

    Pandarilla Purist Emeritus

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    I'm pretty sure quite a few people will be looking for a lobotomy after reading this thread...
     
  9. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Light Up
     
  10. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    why would we keep miller? we dont even use him. he ran 7 times yesterday lol
     
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  11. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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  12. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Ajayi with the chronic knee pain and injury issues? Nah. I love Ajayi as a number two back, but I wouldn't want him carrying the load. Miller is a multi-dimensional threat. Lock him up.
     
  13. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    Nah.. That doesn't make any sense. After all, he's averaging 5 yards/carry with more yards and more carries than the rest of the RBs combined behind OUR line.
     
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  14. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Ajayi looks good, no doubt. Love his bruising style. However, he has injury issues. Including a constant knee issue. I just don't think you can give him too heavy of a work load. You need to team him up with another back. Lamar Miller is the perfect compliment.
     
  15. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yeah, we've seen how great it works out to not spend resources @ running back. Anyone remember Abdul-Jabar? How about Bernie Parmalee? Kirby? Any number of lackluster backs.

    I guess Jabbar was good for a season.
     
  16. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    guys john avery is the next barry sanders.
     
  17. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Lamar Miller is the perfect example of what it means to over spend on one player that is not in a crucial position. Save the cap space find a cheaper #2 back.

    Also, you act like cause Ajayi had knee problems in college he's broken... He doesn't look broken to me and he wouldn't be the first RB to come back strong from such an injury.

    Cheap, RB by committee is the way to go, thus we free up space to tend to other problem areas.

    On November 8, 2015 Ajayi made his NFL debut against the Buffalo Bills. He rushed for 41 yards on 5 carries while averaging 8.2 yards per carry. The next week against the Philadelphia Eagles he would rush for 48 yards on 6 carries while averaging 8.0 yards per carry.
     
  18. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    No, Ajayi has a chronic knee issue. Like, his knee is in perpetually bad shape. He's not supposed to have a long career because of it.

    That's why I don't want him carrying the load. Save him as much as you can.
     
  19. Kud_II

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    He doesn't have to carry the load, we could have a two or even 3 back system for 1/3 of the price we would probably have to pay to keep Lamar Miller.
     
  20. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Goddamm kids!!! Get off my Lawn!!!
     
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  21. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I think you guys are grossly over estimating Lamar miller's potential value. He'll get paid but not like Adrian Peterson money
     
  22. WhiteIbanez

    WhiteIbanez Megamediocremaniacal

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    You are absolutely wrong here. Ajayi was a fifth round pick. We should be using this guy early, late and often.
    What is being said in your post is we should use Miller more and agree but the OC doesn't give a damn about running the football.
    You were half right.
     
  23. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I'm absolutely wrong in saying Lamar Miller should be the featured back over Jay Ajayi? How is that wrong?
     
  24. WhiteIbanez

    WhiteIbanez Megamediocremaniacal

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    You would absolutely be insane to lay a pile of cash in front of Miller. That is what I'm saying.
    Ajayi should have been on the field more yesterday. They give this kid a sniff and they take him off the field.
    Use him up.
     
  25. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Sorry, I don't agree. I know you've never been a Miller fan, but he is a lethal weapon. Especially now that he's improved as a receiver.
     
  26. WhiteIbanez

    WhiteIbanez Megamediocremaniacal

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    My stance is let Miller test the market. If he gets overpaid so be it. Move on
    If he comes back pay him his true value.
     
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  27. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    so we have the anti tannehill section of the forum and the anti lamar miller section, i wonder if there is any correlation between the members of each sect.
     
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  28. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I'd rather have a bottle in front of me...

    Or Homer's dealer, that was some truly trippy ish he was hitting.
     
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  29. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    And ya'll better just leave my boy Miller alone. WTF is wrong with you!
     
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  30. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    I'm a big Miller fan, so you check me off that list, as well as 25, it's right in his sig.
     
  31. Kud_II

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    Jay Ajayi has better moves than Lamar and a more powerful frame. If you wanna take the carries load off of him cause you're concerned about his health then you bring in some solid but cheap back ups.

    There's no point in paying Miller unless we somehow get him back relatively cheap... when we have this guy. Learn to let go people.

    [video=youtube;VUQ4Xy-sVvE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUQ4Xy-sVvE[/video]
     
  32. Kud_II

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    If I was Tannebaum I would demand Lazor give Ajayi more carries. This is a lost season we need to see what we have for sure and if he can hold up. He needs at least 7-10 carries a game in my opinion.
     
  33. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    Why does it have to be one or the other? To be successful in the NFL today you really do need two good backs. If you are really lucky you get two, three down backs, which Ajayi is not...yet and a third and fourth that can play ST's and get ready to step in. Miller is not going to break the bank, Ajayi is locked up for a few more, where's the fire?
     
  34. Puka-head

    Puka-head My2nd Fav team:___vs Jets Club Member

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    I'm glad you are not Tannebaum then. The GM has no business making demands like that.

    I do agree the Ajayi should get more carries. I also think MIller should be getting more carries. With those two in whatever combo getting 25-30 touches a game this offense would be MUCH more productive. The O-line would be better and so would Thill and the defense.

    This team actually runs the ball quite effectively. Why they don't is a mystery to me.
     
  35. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Cause Lazor is stubborn and wants to have some sort of crazy passing attack.
     
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  36. Colmax

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    There is a reason Miller is in there over Ajayi, and it's simple: he is better.

    Miller understands blocking, soft spots, and is one helluva receiving back. I never liked Miller until the end of last season. He is very good at his craft on a squad that keeps him on a pitch count. And sometimes, a low one. Miller needs a complimentary back like Ajayi needs one. Miller finds holes where there aren't any. He's no Ricky or Brown in thier primes, but he is a special player on this squad. Works hard for yardage, and he isn't the biggest guy out there. Can turn the corners. Ajayi isn't quite the runner Miller is. Good, no doubt. Just not there with overall running skills. It sucks that Miami is in this position. I hope he stays.
     
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  38. muskrat21

    muskrat21 Well-Known Member

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    good luck with that miller doesn't even get 7-10 carries.
     
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  39. finfansince72

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    Well if the current offensive system is kept in place I don't see any reason to give Miller a longterm contract but I'd like to see a new system and Miller resigned. Miller is a very good, versatile back and guys like him are not as interchangeable as people here would like to think. We drafted him and spent a lot years developing him, you don't just let guys like that walk away as FAs and get nothing in return. It doesn't make sense to invest some crazy big money contract on Miller but if we can keep him for another 3-4 years at a reasonable price he's worth it.

    I love the post about Dallas and Murray....if they had Murray on the team they would have a lot more than 3 wins, they'd probably be running away with the East right now. He was the exact thing they needed this year. Their running backs have been OK but none of them are even in the same category as Murray was last year with that line and system. He's actually proof that it isn't that easy to find franchise type running backs that fit your system.
     
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  40. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    So you've talked to him and know he has chronic knee pain? We can know injuries based on what we get reported and usually involves a medical test or procedure, but people have different pain thresholds, and what may be considered painful for some people would be a mere nuisance for others.

    For a guy with chronic knee pain, it sure didn't limit his workload in college.
     
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