Making a Case for Ryan Tannehill

"djphinfan wrote:

Rex Ryan tattoos mark Sanchez’s name on him
Please, some coaches can’t project talent from college to pro..

Prez You do realize the qbs we passed on or could of moved up to get (not a lot) while this incompetent personnel Dept doubled down on a flawed below average qb

Gase using Gesicki as a blocker in line

Yeah we wouldve been better off drafting one handed linebacker Griffin like you wanted with our first rounder instead of Minkah like our incompetent personnell department did. Lets review the last draft of our incompetent personnel department

FS MInkah Fitzpatrick - solid rookie season. Pro Bowls look to be in his future

TE Mike Gesicki - bit of a disappointment but tight ends normally take two years to develop. We will know next year

OLB Jerome Baker - solid performance for a rookie who improved quite a bit from the beginning of the season. No longer a hole, We'll see if he can continue to develop so that this position isn't just filled but becomes a strength

TE Durham Smithe - looks like he'll be a good in line blocking TE. Year two will tell us if he can have any value in the passing game

RB Kalen Ballage - showed some great game breaking speed in limited snaps but definitely looks like a future player and possibly a good one.

CB Cornell Armstrong - Don't think they wanted him to be in games this early but he played because of injuries. Definitely had some rough moments but had quite a few good ones. Still not ready to start but could become a good backup

LB Quentin Poling. Practice squad. Will see next summer if he has anything but is an interesting project

K Jason Sanders - Fantastic rookie season. If he does it again next year he could be Pro Bowl bound

Two future all stars, one solid starter, some promising prospects. That's what our incompetent personnel department did.

As for Tannehill, he's a good starting QB who probably should have stayed on the bench healing his shoulder and ankle. But that's what you get when you try to tough it out. People trashing your game as if you're healthy. Next year he'll either be starting for us or one of six or seven other teams and he'll be fully healthy and behind a decent oline. And he'll make one teams base very happy

"texanphinatic wrote:

Good point. I forget those people earning money are never wrong and cannot possibly be challenged on an opinion in a game driven by opinions and pleasing a fanbase full of them. MY BAD!

Actually sorry for using your post for my soap box rant. Youre not one of the people that really does it. Guess I just decided to hijack your post for my own nefarious reasons.

"adamprez2003 wrote:

Yeah we wouldve been better off drafting one handed linebacker Griffin like you wanted with our first rounder instead of Minkah like our incompetent personnell department did. Lets review the last draft of our incompetent personnel department

FS MInkah Fitzpatrick - solid rookie season. Pro Bowls look to be in his future

TE Mike Gesicki - bit of a disappointment but tight ends normally take two years to develop. We will know next year

OLB Jerome Baker - solid performance for a rookie who improved quite a bit from the beginning of the season. No longer a hole, We'll see if he can continue to develop so that this position isn't just filled but becomes a strength

TE Durham Smithe - looks like he'll be a good in line blocking TE. Year two will tell us if he can have any value in the passing game

RB Kalen Ballage - showed some great game breaking speed in limited snaps but definitely looks like a future player and possibly a good one.

CB Cornell Armstrong - Don't think they wanted him to be in games this early but he played because of injuries. Definitely had some rough moments but had quite a few good ones. Still not ready to start but could become a good backup

LB Quentin Poling. Practice squad. Will see next summer if he has anything but is an interesting project

K Jason Sanders - Fantastic rookie season. If he does it again next year he could be Pro Bowl bound

Two future all stars, one solid starter, some promising prospects. That's what our incompetent personnel department did.

As for Tannehill, he's a good starting QB who probably should have stayed on the bench healing his shoulder and ankle. But that's what you get when you try to tough it out. People trashing your game as if you're healthy. Next year he'll either be starting for us or one of six or seven other teams and he'll be fully healthy and behind a decent oline. And he'll make one teams base very happy

Ryan Tannehill has done nothing in his career that screams good starting QB.

It’s over dude, he’s done here.

"Fin-O wrote:

Ryan Tannehill has done nothing in his career that screams good starting QB.

It’s over dude, he’s done here.

All of his numbers over his career pretty much show a "good" starting QB.

The issue is we want better than good.

"Fin-O wrote:

Ryan Tannehill has done nothing in his career that screams good starting QB.

It’s over dude, he’s done here.

Sorry. I need to hear it from someone official not the Miami herald

I can’t believe anyone is actually advocating for Tannehill’s return.

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

All of his numbers over his career pretty much show a "good" starting QB.

The issue is we want better than good.

Figures lie and liars figure. If he was a good quarterback he wouldn’t be getting ready to be cut by quarterback starved team

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

I don’t like the old, crumogeonly ones who are beholden to the old racist ways. No.

What leads you to believe that Polian is racist?

Was he racist when he said that Deshaun Watson "Checks all the boxes" or do we just ignore anything that doesn't fit the "I want to whine about racism whenever I can" agenda?

"GARDENHEAD wrote:

Never met him.

But my grandma went to middle school with him and she said he used to drop n bombs all the time.

So does Lil' Wayne.

Those damn old racist white men. :001_rolleyes:

"Fin-O wrote:

Figures lie and liars figure. If he was a good quarterback he wouldn’t be getting ready to be cut by quarterback starved team

That's not necessarily true. There are plenty of examples of QBs who were unsuccessful in bad situations, but looked much better after switching teams.

"resnor wrote:

That's not necessarily true. There are plenty of examples of QBs who were unsuccessful in bad situations, but looked much better after switching teams.

He made an average situation worse.

However you are right, their are a handful of teams he would be successful with. Issue is those teams have QBs in place.

Change of scenery can be a good thing for players, and for teams.

Shake his hand out the door and wish him well and move on.

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

All of his numbers over his career pretty much show a "good" starting QB.

The issue is we want better than good.

His numbers are average. In fact he's a prototypical statistically average QB.

I could see equating "average" = "good" in certain contexts like for a manufactured product where quality control is high enough that average quality is very high quality, but in the NFL where it's highly unlikely to win a SB with an average QB and "average QB" means "QB that needs replacement"? No.. in the NFL an average QB is not a good QB.

Two Words:

Bye Felicia

Too inconsistent for the price tag

"cbrad wrote:

His numbers are average. In fact he's a prototypical statistically average QB.

I could see equating "average" = "good" in certain contexts like for a manufactured product where quality control is high enough that average quality is very high quality, but in the NFL where it's highly unlikely to win a SB with an average QB and "average QB" means "QB that needs replacement"? No.. in the NFL an average QB is not a good QB.

Sure, but along with stats I just believe that in the right situation he's a pretty good QB. He has certain skills that can be beneficial for the team.

I mean "Good" as in on a bad team he's average and on a good team he's slightly above.

In the end I dont care if we move on, I just want a solid plan.

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

Sure, but along with stats I just believe that in the right situation he's a pretty good QB. He has certain skills that can be beneficial for the team.

I mean "Good" as in on a bad team he's average and on a good team he's slightly above.

In the end I dont care if we move on, I just want a solid plan.

What situation is that? Behind the Dallas OL, with the Steeler's WR corps, Saquon Barkley and Travis Kelce being coached by Sean Payton? I mean, sure.

I think that whatever situation is needed for RT to be successful, it isn't here. Most likely, he goes to some team as a backup and joins the legion of QBs that just kind of fade away until they pop up for a 2-3 game stretch.

"texanphinatic wrote:

What situation is that? Behind the Dallas OL, with the Steeler's WR corps, Saquon Barkley and Travis Kelce being coached by Sean Payton? I mean, sure.

I think that whatever situation is needed for RT to be successful, it isn't here. Most likely, he goes to some team as a backup and joins the legion of QBs that just kind of fade away until they pop up for a 2-3 game stretch.

Honestly, strong blocking is enough. Lets not act like he hasnt had some great games when he had time. So maybe yes the Dallas o-line.

Like I said, I dont care if we move on or not. I just think a lot of people suffer from thinking the grass is greener on the other side.

"Bumrush wrote:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1079820515269898241

You can thank Gase for that. Stubborn jackass failed to nab a QB in a QB-rich draft.

"adamprez2003 wrote:

Yeah we wouldve been better off drafting one handed linebacker Griffin like you wanted with our first rounder instead of Minkah like our incompetent personnell department did. Lets review the last draft of our incompetent personnel department

FS MInkah Fitzpatrick - solid rookie season. Pro Bowls look to be in his future

TE Mike Gesicki - bit of a disappointment but tight ends normally take two years to develop. We will know next year

OLB Jerome Baker - solid performance for a rookie who improved quite a bit from the beginning of the season. No longer a hole, We'll see if he can continue to develop so that this position isn't just filled but becomes a strength

TE Durham Smithe - looks like he'll be a good in line blocking TE. Year two will tell us if he can have any value in the passing game

RB Kalen Ballage - showed some great game breaking speed in limited snaps but definitely looks like a future player and possibly a good one.

CB Cornell Armstrong - Don't think they wanted him to be in games this early but he played because of injuries. Definitely had some rough moments but had quite a few good ones. Still not ready to start but could become a good backup

LB Quentin Poling. Practice squad. Will see next summer if he has anything but is an interesting project

K Jason Sanders - Fantastic rookie season. If he does it again next year he could be Pro Bowl bound

Two future all stars, one solid starter, some promising prospects. That's what our incompetent personnel department did.

As for Tannehill, he's a good starting QB who probably should have stayed on the bench healing his shoulder and ankle. But that's what you get when you try to tough it out. People trashing your game as if you're healthy. Next year he'll either be starting for us or one of six or seven other teams and he'll be fully healthy and behind a decent oline. And he'll make one teams base very happy

I wanted to draft griffin but not with my first dude, don’t put words in my mouth..he went later than I thought he would..you were right..

Your allegiance to tannehill is funny at this point..good luck with that..his own teammates are calling him out, and he’s not good like you call him, that’s been proven unequivocally.

"Rock Sexton wrote:

You can thank Gase for that. Stubborn jackass failed to nab a QB in a QB-rich draft.

Nah I wouldn’t worry about that Rox, the clean slate is enough to attract..

But it is really messed up that they doubled down on tannehill when Mahomes and Watson were in striking range..the levity of those mistakes are huge..

But they get paid so they must know better

"djphinfan wrote:

Nah I wouldn’t worry about that Rox, the clean slate is enough to attract..

But it is really messed up that they doubled down on tannehill when Mahomes and Watson were in striking range..the levity of those mistakes are huge..

But they get paid so they must know better

It was incredibly messed up. I don't care if he loved Tanny or not, it's about preparation for the "just in case". What's the worse that could happen?

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

All of his numbers over his career pretty much show a "good" starting QB.

The issue is we want better than good.

Numbers and film show below average.

"Rock Sexton wrote:

It was incredibly messed up. I don't care if he loved Tanny or not, it's about preparation for the "just in case". What's the worse that could happen?

I just want to know if Grier was the man signing off in that, that’s all I want to know..

"AGuyNamedAlex wrote:

Sure, but along with stats I just believe that in the right situation he's a pretty good QB. He has certain skills that can be beneficial for the team.

I mean "Good" as in on a bad team he's average and on a good team he's slightly above.

In the end I dont care if we move on, I just want a solid plan.

Pretty good is better than average, pretty good is not as good as good..

Putting stats aside, for me, with Tanne at the helm, if the score is close and you need "that drive"...

do you feel good with him getting you that drive or not?