Marino suing NFL over concussions....Not

Damn you Ireland!!!!

No wonder he quit after assuming the front office role for a day!! He forgot he signed on!!

"Triggercut wrote:

Damn you Ireland!!!!

If Ross wasn't the most inept owner ever this would have never happened. This franchise is doomed I tell ya!

On a serious note, this is a potential game changer for the NFL. I would imagine that Goodell is not a happy camper. Much easier to ignore with 2nd tier players. The all time greatest QB suing the league may have long term ramifications.

I'm also surprised that this move came on the same day he was getting publicity for visiting Jim Kelly in the hospital.

The NFL has had a pretty bad record about what it has done with concussions over the years. There have been much safer helmets that are reasonable available, yet the league have allowed continued use of the old, much less safe helmets for a long time. The NFL are in for a world of financial pain with the concussions.

Also now that a first ballot HOFer is in on the legal action the NFL cannot continue to pretend that there is nothing to see.\

Full kudos to Dan for being brave enough to do this, because he's going to get a s%$tstorm of bad publicity about this.

"Pauly wrote:

Full kudos to Dan for being brave enough to do this, because he's going to get a s%$tstorm of bad publicity about this.

I don't know if he's going to get that much publicity, or even negative publicity? Maybe I'm being a bit optimistic after all the stupid opinions on the Incognito thing, but I can't imagine many people are going to be critical of Marino for this.

"Bumrush wrote:

On a serious note, this is a potential game changer for the NFL. I would imagine that Goodell is not a happy camper. Much easier to ignore with 2nd tier players. The all time greatest QB suing the league may have long term ramifications.

I'm also surprised that this move came on the same day he was getting publicity for visiting Jim Kelly in the hospital.

Probably realized how short life is and decide "**** it", could be worth a shot to get some compensation dough from the league.

"Pauly wrote:

The NFL has had a pretty bad record about what it has done with concussions over the years. There have been much safer helmets that are reasonable available, yet the league have allowed continued use of the old, much less safe helmets for a long time. The NFL are in for a world of financial pain with the concussions.

Also now that a first ballot HOFer is in on the legal action the NFL cannot continue to pretend that there is nothing to see.\

Full kudos to Dan for being brave enough to do this, because he's going to get a s%$tstorm of bad publicity about this.

Probably not though.

He is out of a job .If Ross had offered him one he probably would not resort to this lawsuit.

"Pauly wrote:

The NFL has had a pretty bad record about what it has done with concussions over the years. There have been much safer helmets that are reasonable available, yet the league have allowed continued use of the old, much less safe helmets for a long time. The NFL are in for a world of financial pain with the concussions.

Also now that a first ballot HOFer is in on the legal action the NFL cannot continue to pretend that there is nothing to see.\

Full kudos to Dan for being brave enough to do this, because he's going to get a s%$tstorm of bad publicity about this.

He deserves bad publicity for being a duece bag about this.

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Could be a selfish move. But, could also really help players. The more tier 1 players that do this the better for the rest.

But, I don't remember many concussions suffered by Marino - he was so rarely touched. But, it is possible he had several and it just went unreported. Does anyone have any info on Dan's concussions?

If some big time names really had a really great case for a suit, I think it would be Steve Young and Troy Aikman. Their careers were ostensibly damaged by concussions and I can't imagine there will not be some long term impact on their lives from this (though both seem to be very sharp intellectually - Aikman is at the very top among color commentators).

Does the nfl prevent players from wearing the most protective gear available or do players choose what they wear?

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"Da 'Fins wrote:

Could be a selfish move. But, could also really help players. The more tier 1 players that do this the better for the rest.

But, I don't remember many concussions suffered by Marino - he was so rarely touched. But, it is possible he had several and it just went unreported. Does anyone have any info on Dan's concussions?

If some big time names really had a really great case for a suit, I think it would be Steve Young and Troy Aikman. Their careers were ostensibly damaged by concussions and I can't imagine there will not be some long term impact on their lives from this (though both seem to be very sharp intellectually - Aikman is at the very top among color commentators).

I was at a game in Seattle where he was knocked out cold, and came back to throw the winning TD and then had to be helped off the field.

I found an article

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-28/sports/sp-190_1_touchdown-pass

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"shula_guy wrote:

Does the nfl prevent players from wearing the most protective gear available or do players choose what they wear?

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http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=9755850&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Fblog.ucsusa.org%2Fhas-the-nfl-covered-up-concussion-and-brain-injury-research-and-what-should-parents-think-263%22%7D

Instead, the league used its economic, political and media power to attack pioneering research and try to replace it with its own. Its resources, of course, were considerable. For years, the NFL would co-opt an influential medical journal whose editor-in-chief was a consultant to theNew York Giants. The league used that journal, which some researchers would come to ridicule as the "Journal of No NFL Concussions," to publish an unprecedented series of papers, several of which were rejected by peer reviewers and editors and later disavowed even by some of their own authors. The papers portrayed NFL players as superhuman and impervious to brain damage. They included such eye-popping assertions as "Professional football players do not sustain frequent repetitive blows to the brain on a regular basis." The NFL's flawed research was shaped by a web of conflicting interests. Riddell, the league's official helmet maker, used the research to create and successfully market a helmet it claimed significantly reduced concussions in children -- a claim that triggered an investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, which concluded it was false. Mark Lovell, one of the NFL's chief concussion researchers, oversaw the league's neuropsychological baseline testing. But Lovell was also the chairman and co-founder of ImPACT, a baseline testing company that does big business with the NFL.

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"Two Tacos wrote:

I was at a game in Seattle where he was knocked out cold, and came back to throw the winning TD and then had to be helped off the field.

I found an article

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-28/sports/sp-190_1_touchdown-pass

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I was at that game too. great comeback by Dan.

Pretty good article here about it.

There is now an increased level of credibility. Marino's name won't be so easy for the skeptics to dismiss. In effect, he has armored the plaintiffs in this case better than they could have ever dreamed.

I spoke to someone close to Marino late Monday night, and that person said there are no indications Marino is desperate for funds. He's not lazy. Never has been. You don't set or hold more than two dozen passing records being a bum. I've also known Marino and interviewed him several times. He never struck me as someone who would file a baseless suit.

"Ohio Fanatic wrote:

I was at that game too. great comeback by Dan.

I distinctly remember seeing someone with their hand around him and a fist full of jersey to steady him walking him to the bench after that TD pass, and my dad saying, "how the hell did he throw that? He doesn't even know where he is."

I also remember this move that Bobby Humphrey (I think) made that left me thinking that we finally had a RB to go with Marino. That was not exactly true...

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I wonder why Miami cant get former players hired on at espn I would have liked for Marino to have not been fired or I would have liked Marino to get hired on with another network.

"Da 'Fins wrote:

Could be a selfish move. But, could also really help players. The more tier 1 players that do this the better for the rest.

But, I don't remember many concussions suffered by Marino - he was so rarely touched. But, it is possible he had several and it just went unreported. Does anyone have any info on Dan's concussions?

If some big time names really had a really great case for a suit, I think it would be Steve Young and Troy Aikman. Their careers were ostensibly damaged by concussions and I can't imagine there will not be some long term impact on their lives from this (though both seem to be very sharp intellectually - Aikman is at the very top among color commentators).

Funny how we don't read that today's players are thinking about giving up football because of the idea that they may suffer physically and mentally once they get older and are out of the league. All they are concerned with at this time is that they can play a game and earn more money in a few years than the majority of Americans will earn in a lifetime.

I was a big fan of Marino when he was a player, but I have no respect for him or any of the other past players who have filed lawsuits against the NFL for injuries they now claim were related to playing in the NFL.

The game of football is a violent game. If you play long enough, you are going to have injuries and concussions. That is just part of the job, which NFL players are well compensated for. I hope the NFL fights this lawsuit and prevails in the court room.

Aikman and Young obviously won't be joining any lawsuit against the NFL at this time because they are still making a very good living working on NFL broadcasts during the NFL season. Marino waited until he was fired from CBS and had no other job offers before filing his suit. I have to wonder if he would be involved in this lawsuit if he was still working at CBS. I guess he figured he needs the money to help fill the void created when he lost that muti-million dollars position with CBS.

"Aquafin wrote:

I wonder why Miami cant get former players hired on at espn I would have liked for Marino to have not been fired or I would have liked Marino to get hired on with another network.

Marino was only hired in the first place because the networks though he could offer insights on the game. If you actually listened to his comments over the years he was on TV, you would realize that he just wasn't very good. In fact if he wasn't Dan Marino, I doubt if he would have lasted more than a year on the network to begin with.

I'm pretty sure I remember that Seattle game... was that the one where they held up that smelling stick and he didn't react as he should?

Goodell's mission from this point on is to **** Miami in every way possible up until he gets them to relocate....

Everybody hates lawyers and lawsuits....until something horrible happens to them and the party responsible for such horribeness won't own up to it.

Wow, this is bizarre considering Marino was just trying to score a job with the same entity he is now suing. Just another black-eye on Marino's post-NFL career.

Who knew football was dangerous? I guess the paychecks blind you to that fact.

Maybe someone should give him a cigarette.

"Scrap wrote:

Who knew football was dangerous? I guess the paychecks blind you to that fact.

Maybe someone should give him a cigarette.

Dangerous is extremely ambiguous. Do you really think players knew the likelihood of CTE, or other permanent and debilitating brain damage?