Marshall's performance in the Pro Bowl.......

"siciliansith wrote:

Now I give Brandon more credit than Killer has in the past but agree with Killer on his quote. Marshall gets up for big games, and even more when he can get attention. Now the pro's do that so thats great, but for Marshall to reach his full potential he needs to keep himself motivated all the time. He's learning and i would hope even killer saw the strides the guy made this year (kinda think his statement was a nod to marshall imo?). But Absolutley " Marshall is only as good as he wants to be"!

Congrats #19 heck of a show!

EDIT: Guess i should change my avatar lol

Yeah, it's just too bad he hasn't been as good for us, even tho all they are doing in the PB is playing modified two-hand touch...

"MonstBlitz wrote:

And who was that rookie pro bowl QB throwing him 2 of those TDs? Andy Dalton? Too bad Jeff Ireland couldn't have seen his way to drafting a fellow ginger...

yeah well, Dalton is a guy who's initially difficult to stomach drafting at either #15 or trading up your 3rd rounder for the fee of a 2012 1st b/c we didn't have a 2nd rounder to work with.
There was no way we were taking him unless we were able to trade back into the late 20's/30's.

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Yeah, it's just too bad he hasn't been as good for us, even tho all they are doing in the PB is playing modified two-hand touch...

Is that why he's the first ever to score 4 TD's? Cam Newton sure seems to struggle in touch football.

"FreeStyle wrote:

Hang Loose Bra.............

Fixed that typo for you. There's no silent "h" in Bra.

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Yeah, it's just too bad he hasn't been as good for us, even tho all they are doing in the PB is playing modified two-hand touch...

Gotta give Marshall credit, it shows with the PB rules and Brandon one on one he is the beast. He did beat a long standing record, um 1st in history of a PB lol . Marshall one on one is legit, like the Philbin created mismatches in Green Bay look forward to seeing what he and Sherman can do with him.

"CallMeDaddy wrote:

A real QB passing him the ball does wonders doesn't it?

Especially when scrub QB's put the ball in his hands in the EZ and he drops them...I guess he would have caught them If a real QB had thrown them...what ever

"Finascious D wrote:

I cannot believe that whore is cheating on me.

She's not cheating on you when she's already mine to begin with, stoopid.

You're like the mistress complaining about the wife for sleeping with her husband :tongue2:....... only I'm not married to her. Mainly b/c jewelers price-gouge for custom-made engagement rings to fit her cute, lil stubby sausage finger.

That first TD was a thing of beauty...Big Ben hit him 40 yards down field in stride.....he didnt have to slow up, speed up...we didn't see a pass that pretty to him all year..

"ToddsPhins wrote:

She's not cheating on you when she's already mine to begin with, stoopid.

You're like the mistress complaining about the wife for sleeping with her husband :tongue2:....... only I'm not married to her. Mainly b/c jewelers price-gouge for custom-made engagement rings to fit her cute, lil stubby sausage finger.

I was talking about DJ, not the midget. Duh.

"Trowa wrote:

He still did something that no one has ever done in this "meaningless game" when he scored 4 TDs. Give the man his due. He might have played in a meaningless game but he's the best one to ever do it.

and at least 3 of those catches required extra effort to make, why not the effort during the regular season when it counts? Don't get me wrong I believe in BM's abilities I question his effort and when he chooses to use it. In his words it's the QB that makes the difference, not by what I saw in those catches..that was effort.

"MonstBlitz wrote:

And who was that rookie pro bowl QB throwing him 2 of those TDs? Andy Dalton? Too bad Jeff Ireland couldn't have seen his way to drafting a fellow ginger...

Yeah, hair color is so important when it comes to QBs.

Mike Mayock said it best during the game, it went something like this "Brandon Marshall can be as great as HE wants to be" (added emphasis by me). That was a great performance but he has to be self motivated. When he is he becomes elite, when he doesn't he is above average.

"DOLPHAN1 wrote:

and at least 3 of those catches required extra effort to make, why not the effort during the regular season when it counts? Don't get me wrong I believe in BM's abilities I question his effort and when he chooses to use it. In his words it's the QB that makes the difference, not by what I saw in those catches..that was effort.

that's right. B Marshall put no effort into the games this past season. yes, he lost his concentration in the end zone a few times, and I hold that against him. but he also made some pretty spectacular plays that were no different from what we saw in the probowl yesterday. To say he didn't make the effort during the regular season is just plain silly.

He had a great game but that was some awful defense out there he was going against.Looked almost like flag football.

"Ohio Fanatic wrote:

that's right. B Marshall put no effort into the games this past season. yes, he lost his concentration in the end zone a few times, and I hold that against him. but he also made some pretty spectacular plays that were no different from what we saw in the probowl yesterday. To say he didn't make the effort during the regular season is just plain silly.

so he lost his concentration in the EZ during the regular season and to say he did not give his full effort is just plain silly... In the EZ no less, the one place his position makes their bones in. But if we had an elite QB he wouldn't have lost that concentration

Also, I never said he gave no effort, I said he didn't put the same effort in the regular season as he did in a meaningless exhibition game.

Took a **** all over Moore and Henne at the end there.

"Finascious D wrote:

I was talking about DJ, not the midget. Duh.

:lol:

ummm. He's all yours.

"MrClean wrote:

I don't hate BM, certainly do not want to get rid of him since he is still the best we got. Just trying to keep things in their proper perspective.

I'm not gonna jack off over how well he did in a totally meaningless exhibition game, and try to spin it into just an example of what he could do if the Dolphins had a more expensive QB. More to me like what he can do when he does not feel he is under pressure to do so.

You keep harping on "meaningless game".....we started the year 0-7. The last 9 games were "meaningless" yet he didnt have the numbers he had last night, yet he had Matt Moore throwing him the ball. Whats the comon denominator? Marshall is the same, game situation is the same.....the quarterback? Different.

There ya go.

I agree Sick. BM made a statement yesterday. I Havnt got a problem with what he said. Ross and Ireland pls take note.

It was great to see a Dolphin at the Pro Bowl! Only 2 and one put up great numbers. Made it worth watching.

"FinNasty wrote:

Are you seriously under the impression that the hand gesture Marshall is making is a form of a gangster sign???

Im sure he was just trying to keep Marshall down to the level he sees him at....

"DOLPHAN1 wrote:

so he lost his concentration in the EZ during the regular season and to say he did not give his full effort is just plain silly... In the EZ no less, the one place his position makes their bones in. But if we had an elite QB he wouldn't have lost that concentration

Also, I never said he gave no effort, I said he didn't put the same effort in the regular season as he did in a meaningless exhibition game.

You're trying to connect two things that aren't necessarily connected.

He gave full effort in those games, he just made mistakes by letting his concentration slip in the endzone

IMO, B Marshall is stating that the elite QBs put him in a better position to succeed - translation...better setup to catch those TDs.
Most relevant example: Henne is by far the worst starting QB I've ever seen at throwing a proper fade in the endzone to our big WR. Moore is better, but by no means outstanding.
A really good QB puts the ball just where B Marshall can get it over the smaller DBs, then Marshall's part is the timing of the jump and the concentration portion of the equation.

I realize you're probably putting these 2 things together to counter someone else who is making that argument, but 2 wrongs don't make a right.

"NJFINSFAN1 wrote:

Can't take the Pro Bowl serious, just watch the defense, they are going half to no speed.

In the 1st quarter Big Ben could have been hit by Allen twice and he stopped.

As seen on defense yesterday...

"Ohio Fanatic wrote:

You're trying to connect two things that aren't necessarily connected.

He gave full effort in those games, he just made mistakes by letting his concentration slip in the endzone

IMO, B Marshall is stating that the elite QBs put him in a better position to succeed - translation...better setup to catch those TDs.
Most relevant example: Henne is by far the worst starting QB I've ever seen at throwing a proper fade in the endzone to our big WR. Moore is better, but by no means outstanding.
A really good QB puts the ball just where B Marshall can get it over the smaller DBs, then Marshall's part is the timing of the jump and the concentration portion of the equation.

I realize you're probably putting these 2 things together to counter someone else who is making that argument, but 2 wrongs don't make a right.

no.

this is about effort and the fact he turns it on and off according to what he perceives as the situation. That lack of concentration in the end zone, how many were right on the numbers, right in his hands. He flat out stated in his interview last night that he kicked it up a notch because of the players he was playing with. He has also stated that he is looking for an elite QB. IIRC he stated last night that he had nothing to do with the catches it was all the QB but it seems to me that at least 3 td's he had to go above and beyond to catch. He chooses when to give his best effort and he is blaming his lack of production, drops and all on the fact that we have no elite QB. I contend that if he consistently gave the effort he gave last night that he would have the stats he so desires and we may have a better record too. Effort is infectious, if he worked as hard as Bush did how much better would this team be?

Here is the video...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:7518260

He had nothing but great things to say about "Coach Joe". Not sure what the people are complaining about. He gave nothing but high praise to the new coach and how much he was looking forward to getting back and getting to work.