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Marvel Phases 2 & 3 Discussion

Discussion in 'TV, Music and Movies' started by Fin D, Jul 2, 2014.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Thought that with all the stuff they got going, there might as well be a thread about there live action universe.

    Also, just got the idea for Pedro Pascal (the Red Viper from GoT) as Dr. Strange.
     
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  2. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Pascal would make a fantastic Dr. Strange... Get on it, Marvel Studios!
     
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  3. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Just a Guy Staff Member Club Member

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    Glad that the Winter Soldier finally got a DVD release date (Sep 9), so that I can see it, and then finally watch the rest of Season One of Agents of Shield. I've been abstaining due to mixed spoilers.
     
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  4. ether79

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    Winter soldier rocked. Read an article yesterday with Mark Ruffalo discussing a new stand alone Hulk movie to take place beginning around phase 3 I believe. Thatd be killer I bet. I hope it gets greenlit.
     
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  5. NaboCane

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    What are you, Amish?! :tongue2:
     
  6. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    **** yes. Please.
     
  7. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Just a Guy Staff Member Club Member

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    LOL, no I have a young baby and my wife and I can't go out to the movies for a while.
     
  8. ether79

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    I always found thats the best time to. "Oh honey you know its best to see movies like that on the big screen of the theater." Little guilt trip...make her think she thought of the idea...next thing you know...boom! she's watching the baby, so you dont have to miss seeing it at the theater
     
  9. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Winter Soldier is out at the cheapo theaters now---we saw it again last night for $3.75. Go to a matinee at the cheapo theater and no one will care you have a baby with you.
     
  10. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Just a Guy Staff Member Club Member

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    That made me literally laugh out loud. I know that all kids are different, but we can't even manage to watch a movie at HOME with our baby and almost 3-year old most of the time!
     
  11. TiP54

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    So what is considered Phase 2? Winter Soldier and Thor 2 and on?
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree I drink your milkshake! Club Member

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    For the first two phases, they are marked by the Avengers.
     
  13. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Yeah. So far Phases 1 & 2 have started with Iron Man and ended/will end with Avengers.

    Phase I: Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, (Plus all the One-Shots), Avengers

    Phase II: Iron Man 3, Agents of SHIELD, Thor 2, Captain America II, Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers II

    (*There's also 5 new TV shows coming - Agent Carter, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage & Iron Fist. There's talk of a TV miniseries with those last four i.e. The Defenders. I'm not sure when these all come out so I don't know what Phase they fall under.)

    Phase III: Is to include Ant-Man and Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy II, Avengers III. Others rumored are Black Panther & another Hulk.
     
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  14. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    dr strange vs dr fate. Discuss.
     
  16. Silverphin

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    Doc Strange should be interesting.
     
  17. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Dr. Fate has a cool helmet. Dr. Strange has the better name.
     
  18. unluckyluciano

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    I'd say the care bears would beat both of them.
     
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    Can't believe Marvel would ever flat out cancel the Fantastic Four, but I understand their frustration with the rights deals.

    They were very close to getting the FF rights back, until Fox rushed what appears to be an absolute abomination of everything the FF were about into production, and Fox has completely diluted the X-Men series with too much Wolverine, in too many mediocre movies. Marvel is KILLING him for god sakes.

    And frankly, the Marvel Studios movies are so much better. Sony is destroying Spider Man. This summer movies starring both Captain America and the Guardians of the Galaxy will both far outgross a Spider Man movie. This should be impossible. But that's what happens when you lose control of your intellectual property
     
  21. NaboCane

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    'The Fantastic Four' comic was based on a premise that I never thought would work on a big screen, but would do well as a pure-action cartoon.

    The hatred by each character of their own individual identities is something that can work to portray an individual like Spider-Man, and that plus the guilt suffered every day by Mr. F for getting them all into their "predicament" worked okay in a monthly or quarterly comic. But, onscreen, it can't come across as anything but whiny and maudlin.

    I don't think it will ever be a compelling big-screen subject like 'The Avengers.'
     
  22. Deerless Dice

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    Marvel killing Wolverine is good move, he's been over saturated for a long time and it'd be nice to get some stories that don't involve him for a change.

    I really would like to see FF/X-Men/Spiderman back with Marvel, for all of the reasons you listed.

    Still wrapping my ahead the older brother from Goonies being cast as Thanos
     
  23. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh Club Member

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    Canceling them could be the very best thing ever. It would make the properties worth less which could prompt Fox to sell them back.
     
  24. Fin D

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    Fantastic Four has great potential as a movie. Unlike The Avengers, or X-Men, the FF are united as a family, and not just by circumstance. They might bicker, but it's family bickering.

    That dynamic wasn't really explored in either FF movie so far and I am already cringing at the endless "brother from another mother" style jokes that are coming with opposite race Sue and Johnny Storm.

    The other FF movies also completely wussified and screwed up the 2nd best Marvel villain ever, Dr. Doom. There's a lot in FF that would work. Unfortunately, Fox is doing none of those things.
     
  26. schmolioot

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    Anyway, given the success of Guardians, I'd like to see Marvel mine some of its "deeper cuts" for lack of a better term.

    I think Namor has great potential as a movie. He's Marvel's only real anti-hero. Adam Warlock is a great character (who ties into Guardians).

    I don't know how Silver Surfer fits into the Fox licensing deal but I could imagine an almost Clint Eastwood type film with the lonely drifter dropping in to help save a planet.
     
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  27. Fin D

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    I think Warlock is coming to the screen. His cocoon was in Thor 2 and GoG and in the last scene the cocoon is open and empty.
     
  28. schmolioot

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    Oh really?

    I didn't see Thor 2 so i didn't notice. Cool.

    Given the last scene of Guardians I suppose Marvel has renewed plans for Howard as well, which is just hilarious.
     
  29. Fin D

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    Gunn (the director) said the Howard thing was just for himself.
     
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  30. Rick 1966

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    Namor is owned by Universal, IIRC. Silver Surfer is owned by Fox.
     
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    Warlock is certainly a given considering his presence in the Infinity Gauntlet storyline. Another good thing about Marvel going with Guardians is that it will allow Marvel to introduce some heavy hitters like Annihilus and Kang without the need of the Fantastic Four. With Marvel pushing the Inhumans you have to think a Phase 3 movie is in the works. This would give them the direct competition to X-Men as well as play the Family card mentioned earlier that the Fantastic Four have going for them.

    Marvel is also going to do a female superhero film and there's a good chance it's a Black Widow flick.
     
  32. Fin D

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    Also, Gunn mentioned that there will be another member of the Guardians joining the team.
     
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    It'll probably be Cosmo, the dog from the after the credits scene. The dark horse would be Major Victory, he's pretty iconic as far as Guardians goes.
     
  34. schmolioot

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    I wonder if we'll see Iron Man join up, in maybe Guardians 3 (depending on whether or not Downey is still around then).

    Iron Man has recently been a member of the Guardians and even got Gamora in the sack. Tony Stark is an intergalactic stud apparently.
     
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  35. schmolioot

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    Black Widow makes sense. Scarlett has proven that audiences will go see her in a solo action role with the success of Lucy, and after Downey, she's the biggest "star" that Marvel has in its universe.

    But there is also the new female Thor and the new Ms. Marvel as well.
     
  36. Two Tacos

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    [video=youtube;bWpK0wsnitc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc[/video]

    Now that Marvel is Disney, this is as close to the perfect Marvel universe antihero movie as we are going to get. That might because of the love I had for the character as a child.
     
  37. Deerless Dice

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    Tony was a dud when it came to Gamora. He's no Richard Rider
     
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  38. Fin D

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    The more I think about it, the more I think they are going to deviate from canon in GoG and:
    ...make Warlock Quill's dad and not J'son. I don't think J'son's DNA is powerful enough to survive the infinity stone, but Warlock's would be.Plus the whole part about the mom calling the dad an angel lends itself more to Warlock than J'son.
     
  39. schmolioot

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    Probably right.

    The obscure characters still need to make sense to a mass audience. Warlock is going to be tough enough to explain anyway.
     
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    I honestly think if they go that route it will make more sense. I also think it makes more sense what they're doing with Ultron in A2. It actually fits the spirit of the comics better to have Tony invent Ultron instead of Ant-Man doing it. Especially if they get into the Civil War arc later on. The guy that would side with registration is the same kind of guy that would create an Ultron in the name of safety. Plus, Ultron always looked like a modified Iron Man anyway.
     
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