http://www.advancednflstats.com/2012/01/air-yards-2011.html#more
Matt Moore ranks 4th in Air Yards per attempt. He also gained most of his total passing yards from Air Yards. He ranked 2nd in that category, meaning he only got 36% of his yardage from his receiver's YAC.
This would seem to confirm what I saw, which is that he is fairly aggressive and accurate throwing downfield. But we should be careful to read too much into that since he didn't start the whole year and thus had fewer attempts than most starting QBs. It's possible that if given a whole season he would regress. Though having said that, I think I saw enough to say that these impressive stats aren't just a matter of small sample size. I think Moore was displaying a fairly honed skill.
I also think it's interesting that Aaron Rodgers tops the Air YPA list. His Air Yards % is a bit low at 53%. I think that's partly due to Green Bay's scheme. But having the best Air YPA suggests that even though they ran a WCO style offense, they still gave Rodgers opportunities to throw deep. So that begs the question, does Moore's ability to pass downfield match well with what Philbin will want to do offensively?
That's difficult to say. We don't know how similar Philbin's offense will be to the one they ran in GB. We don't even know if they will keep Moore around. But if we do decide to keep Moore I'm a bit encouraged about seeing him continue what he started this past season. What do you think? Could I be reading too much into this?
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Interesting approach. Sounding somewhat similiar to "Net yardage" I searched the term, and found this article Net Yards per Snap with a few twists. Although this guy included scrambling yards, benefitting Vick or Tebow, not sure why Moore dropped considerably in the rankings compared to yours.
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It's certainly not automatically a good thing. Tom Brady was the third lowest in AY%. That confirms what I saw of the Patriots, which is that most of their offense is very short throws. But it works because the receivers are good and Brady is great at getting them the ball to where they can maximize their YAC.
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Nice find. I think Moore does worse in that ranking because he was sacked a ton. And his completion % was good but not great. What's interesting about that ranking is Henne is 4th. That's in large part because of his small sample size. But I do think Henne was trying to be more aggressive before he got hurt. It would have been interesting to see his progression this year.Califin likes this.
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You're a lot more negative this evening than usual. Everything alright on your end, man? I'm certainly not downplaying it because it shines a positive light on Moore. You know that's not my style. I even admitted that I'm not sure how to interpret this stats impact. I'm simply suggesting that there are several other variables to consider on this issue.
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I don't see YAC as any better than AY or vice versa. It is the end result that matters, and to me, the offensive system any given QB is in will help determine if he is going to get more opportunities for one over the other. Rodgers is 1st in AY, and that is at least as impressive as whomever is first in his receivers getting YAC.
As for my negativity in the BM Pro Bowl thread...when I see him catching room service passes like the one from Rivers when under zero pressure, I reminisce back to some of the room service potential TDs he dropped this past season, when there was a team, his actual team, counting on him to come through in crunch time. Anyone who believes the ball placement was any worse on those regular season TD drops than it was today, is suffering from selective amnesia.gafinfan, Larryfinfan, muscle979 and 1 other person like this. -
Maybe. But also at the same time we're a fan based starved for things to be happy and optimistic about. This is one of those things. At least for today Brandon Marshall and vicariously the Miami Dolphins were the toast of the NFL. That doesn't happen very often. So excuse us if we'd rather be happy about the present than upset about the past.Steve-Mo likes this.
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It doesn't matter for the team. But I think it could be another tool to use when evaluating QBs. Aaron Rodgers was insanely good whether he was throwing a five yard slant or a deep route. His efficiency on those deeper routes gained him more yards per attempt than someone like Tom Brady who didn't throw them as much. I think the logic is, that matters because it's more difficult to complete longer routes and they tend to gain more yardage than shorter routes. So if total yards and standard YPA with YAC are close, we can start splitting hairs by looking at AY.
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That is what we all watched in 2011 Deej, MMoore would also be among the league leaders in shortest scoring drives in terms of # of plays, I can recalll 4 or 5 "drives" of like 4 plays, and that would be a 55 yd drive or so, Moore's problem is there were also drives that were just ugly as his accuracy would just not be there, this is one of the reasons why imo, Moore has good trade value.
Stat I'd like to see is # of sacks when the play 4 to 5 seconds as sometimes MMoore did hold onto the ball to long hoping something would open up down the field and then take the sack, from a stats pov a sack is a sack is a sack, reality is in a game there are instant pressure sacks, then coverage sacks and no one measures them
Big picture, to me there should be no reason for disquiet if Philbin feels Moore is the guy as you can see he can be a Top 5 Qb in the NFL in some categories, fans throwing a tantrum about a Qb should not effect his decision at all. -
Well, this goes back to what I was asking for in the Brees-Marino air yards debate that I posted. 1/2 of Brees's yards were YAC. Now I wish I could see what that number was for Marino back in 84.
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IMO it makes sense for Moore to be high in this stat based on what I see from him. I think he is a very good deep ball passer. If you give him a clean pocket and time he can have a great deal of success. However, I don't see good accuracy from him in the short passing game. I think he forced our receivers to make some really difficult catches in the short range and I don't think his ball placement is good or conducive to YAC.