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McDaniel is here to stay

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by TheHighExhaulted, Aug 30, 2024.

  1. TheHighExhaulted

    TheHighExhaulted Well-Known Member

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  2. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Well, good for him that he has a payday but if Ross wants to fire him, that money doesn't come out of the salary cap.
     
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  3. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    The point is the organization has faith in what McD is doing and it looks like we have some stability at the HC position. Something we haven’t had since Wanny.
     
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  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Continuity to evolve the scheme and Qb.

    Capitalize on the culture which is already been happening that this guy created.
     
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  5. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    While you could imagine the seat getting hot if they flamed out this year you can't really expect a different coach to get more out of Tua and Tua isn't going anywhere.

    If a change ends up needing to be made its someone else calling the plays and nothing more.
     
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  6. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Hes earned it. Our franchise has not looked better since the mid 80s.. there were later years we made playoffs consecutively, but not with as much direction as we have now.
     
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  7. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    Try being positive man. This is the first HC we've seen get extended since Shula. After all the failed experiments we've suffered through this is great news.
     
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  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    We’ve been in head coach purgatory since Sparano I think

    Great point..

    Saban Philbin, Cameron, Gase, all failures
     
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  9. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I like McDaniel. I just think a coach getting a contract extension is less meaningful than, for instance, Tua getting a new deal. Tua's deal means he's going to be here long term. McDaniel's deal means he's going to be getting a paycheck long term.
     
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  10. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    That's not true.. Even Philbin had an extra year tacked on.. So did a lame duck Sparano..
     
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  11. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    Neither one of them made it past their initial contract but you're right.
     
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  12. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    It’s actually a bigger deal than some may feel. The head coach is the captain of the ship. He is ultimately responsible for the development and performance of his players. If a player plays well, credit to the head coach. If he plays poorly, critique to the head coach (provided said player isn’t the bottom of the barrel).

    By extending McDaniel, the team has said it has confidence in the player development and success the team has had. Will every season be a bed of roses? Every rose has its thorn just so long as our bed of roses doesn’t become a briar patch, McDaniel should be in Miami for quite some time.
     
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  13. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    This is the same FO and owner that people have been complaining about for years, right?

    Don't read more into this than intended, Dan.

    Lol
     
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  14. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    I’ve complained about Ross
    I’ve complained about Grier
    I’ve called for their heads.

    So

    Did it take a number of failures before they got it right?

    Were they just unable to get the staff they wanted?

    Were we fans just so overly critical? A combination of the above?

    Unless the Dolphins utterly FLOP this year and the following, I think we have the coach that can lead our team for the next decade at least.

    Let’s not point fingers at who said what, when. We’re winning, we’re happy, FINS UP!!!!
     
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  15. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    The only complaint I have of Ross is that he was caught doing what all owners do… woo a player they want.

    As for the rest of the FO, there’s criticism that needs to be dealt out, but that’s true for any FO.

    I guess I’m not sure why you’re whining about what I may reply to your post. You typically only whine when you’re questioned about your asinine posts.
     
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    I think it's great McD was extended. McD + Tua (thus far) looks like the type of HC + QB combo no Dolphins coach except Shula successfully put together.

    Main concern with McD is who the DC is. He gets that wrong we'll be one-sided and never win a SB (except by luck), he gets that right we're a perennial contender. Shula never got it right after Arnsparger left and wasted a lot of Marino years. Hope McD doesn't make the same mistake.
     
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  17. Fishhead

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    The difference between now and Shula’s era is that most coordinators now view the position as a stepping stone to a head coaching job, as opposed to the past, where most coordinators stayed in that role for many years. The better our defense is this year, the more likely it is that Weaver gets a HC gig.
     
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  18. OwesOwn614

    OwesOwn614 Well-Known Member

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    Not bad for a guy who doesn't project as a leader of men. But seriously, McDaniel's and Tua's contracts reflect the 20 year void of consistency we experienced since Marino hung up his cleats. Tua got his bag because his market might have been less than we paid to keep him, but his value to the team is at/above what he got. McDaniel could leave tomorrow and have a new job by Friday if he wanted. There's genuine excitement about Miami, even if both are mentioned in regard to what they haven't achieved instead of how well they've performed. I'm glad that we can quibble about the fine points of what determines a success as opposed to going into the season just hoping that something works in our favor for us to finish with a winning record.

    Good for Coach. Good for us, too.
     
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  19. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    One thing that irks me is the media bias against the Phins and Tua.
    For example, Lamar Jackson is hyped by the media as some sort of god. Since he was drafted the Ravens have been in 7 playoff games. In one of those games Jackson was injured and didn’t play. Out of his six playoff games, it took him until his 3rd postseason game to win one. Out of those 6 games the Ravens are 2-4, he’s posted a passer rating of over 78 once. All 6 of the games played were in Baltimore. His postseason passer rating is a paltry 75. He’s completed only 57% of his passes with 6 TD’s and 6 INT’s.
    Somehow, and even though this Dolphins team has had their HC for only 2 seasons, have back-to-back playoff appearances, and Tua has only played in one postseason game (against the same team that beat Baltimore last season in the playoffs and went on to win the SB) are somehow labeled “chokers”, along with Tua who is labeled as a guy who can’t “win when it counts.”

    The Bills, media darlings over the past several years, with Allen (another media darling) haven’t fared much better going 5-5 since Allen has been QB with 7 of those 10 games being at home and the 3 away games being losses.

    And let’s not forget about injuries.
     
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  20. Veritas

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    After barely beating Jacksonville in week 1 , last night's horrible performance against the Bills, and back-to-back late season collapses, it seems obvious to me that as a head coach McDaniel is in way over his head and I expect he may get fired before the end of this season.
     
  21. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Ok.
     
  22. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    :sidelol:

    Really? A head coach who in his first season goes 9-8 and made the playoffs ;Who in his second season goes 11-6 and makes the playoffs and you’re going to fire him after 2 games, going 1-1 versus playoff teams?

    Oh the overreaction is astounding.
     
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  23. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Hello “new” guy. What’s your other name?
     
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  24. Veritas

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    People who truly understand NFL football know that Mike McDaniel is in way over his head as a head coach. The job is too big for him.
     
  25. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Then, by THAT logic…the 7/8 head coaches McDaniel beat in 2022 and the 9/10 head coaches he beat last season are in over their head as well…

    I mean, if these other head coaches lost to a head coach that’s in over his head…

    :pity:
     
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  26. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    You wanted no moderation Dan. Here’s what it looks like.
     
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  27. Veritas

    Veritas New Member

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    I've taken some time to read thru threads here and notice you are consistently making personal attacks against other participants , are disrespectful and condescending. My guess is that one of the reasons this forum does not receive much traffic is because you are a bully in every thread, which turns people off to participating. Also, I've noticed most of your takes and predictions have proven very wrong, so my suggestion is that you start reading instead of writing, and you might learn something. Hope this helps.
     
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  28. Tuanon4Life

    Tuanon4Life Well-Known Member

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    I'm starting to wonder if being a Dolphin fan takes a toll on mental health.
     
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  29. Finatik

    Finatik Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    You must be a new fan. LOL
     
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  30. Destroyer

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    definitely does. Luckily I have been able to care less and less each season. I would get so mad over the losses and bad decisions. Now it’s par for the course.

    I used to be on here all year round now mostly only spend time on here during games. I don’t listen to podcasts, play fantasy or pay for Sunday ticket anymore. I don’t support the team or nfl with anything other than watching whatever games they put on. No tickets merch etc. if the Dolphins, Seahawks or Lions don’t make the playoffs I probably won’t even watch.

    As long as the dolphins have Tua, Grier or McDaniel this will continue.
     
  31. pumpdogs

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    Sorry but I see noway anyone can defend McDaniel here when he is 0-6 against the Bills and 3-10 in national games.
    Flores won 9 games with half the talent this team has.
    Tua,Hill,waddle also do not show up for these games.I have never seen a team beat up the lesser teams and then get smoked time and time again when they play the playoff teams.
    Unless we get a miracle Brock Purdy pick in next year's draft we will be on our way to 30 years of a playoff win drought as.25 is most likely already guaranteed.
     
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  32. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    That’s good to hear that you defend McD, because McD isn’t 0-6 against the Bills.
     
  33. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    lol… What? Show me when I said I wanted “no moderation”. And I’m not even sure what your comment is in reference to right now? Are you meaning the “new guy”?
     
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  34. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    Oh yes… sure…sure. These are all things you’ve “noticed”. Lol
    In reality you’d see that there are two people I call trolls and 2 people here that I don’t get along with, but that’s what you’re deciding to talk about after being here for a day? Riiiiight…Which one of them are you?
     
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  35. pumpdogs

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    Oh my bad 1-5 is so much better
    Lol.
     
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  36. danmarino

    danmarino Hyperbole or death Club Member

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    I remember when Belichick and Brady, at the start of their careers in New England, were 1-5 against the Broncos. The Broncos just had their number. Think if BB and Brady had been deemed crap because of their record against that one team.
     
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  37. pumpdogs

    pumpdogs Well-Known Member

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    Dude are u serious?The Broncos were not in the Pats divs.The Pats won superbowls during that time.Your argument make zero sense.
    This team had to win this game.At home bills had to travel on short week and you get this performance And the dumb *** qb tries to.play hero ball lowering his head instead of sliding and pretty much killed our season.
    The Bills had numerous injuries on defence and could not take asvantage as usual.
    Unless Thompson surprises us all the season is probably over.
     
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  38. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Yes, moderation should be for people violating ToS, discussing posters not posts, things like that.

    Yes, people should be able to post thugs you think are crazy and don't agree with.
     
  39. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Don't forget the last pick threw. Panicked and chucked up a balloon while rolling to his left.

    You can't be elite and pull **** like that.
     
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  40. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    This is a post that does nothing but cause contention.

    You know EXACTLY what he's saying, but you're playing semantics to avoid his point. It's disingenuous posting. You act like he's way off base.

    Yeah 1-5 is SO MUCH BETTER.
     
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