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[Merged] Dan Henning's playcalling

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Dorfdad, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Honestly. This is madding first we get an article stating today they are going to take the handcuffs off HENNE and let him and Marshall have some fun.

    Besides the first play of the game the offensive coordinator (He who I will not name or speak his name till he goes!) has been playing scared. Run, Run, short pass on 3-7.

    They are playing to hope we can hold them off at their home for 2 quarters!

    I swear to the almighty that if we lose this game due to the inability to PASS bad things are going to rip open in Dolphins Land..

    You think Marshall is going to sit for 16 games with 56-60 yards a game and 3-4 catches?

    I know Ricky fumbled but were playing scared and not to lose instead of to WIN...
     
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  2. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    and away we go...
     
  3. DolfanJake

    DolfanJake Banned

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    Well they got a REAL DC this year in Nolan, it looks like they need to get a REAL OC next year and we'll be set. But damn why does it always take a year for this FO to figure things out ? Meanwhile other teams pass us by in getting better. Its just so frustrating.
     
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  4. jaxdolfan

    jaxdolfan Journeyman

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    Ricky should spell Ronnie or play only if he is the hot hand.


    Otherwise Ronnie should start. No more of his rotating series crapola.
     
  5. CadStump

    CadStump New Member

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    The problem is that Henne is scared too ... The guy can't complete a third down ... :no:
     
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  6. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    marshall will get pissed soon. and rightfully so.
     
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  7. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=- Club Member

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    Is a slap still a slap if you were to use the sharp end of a machete?
     
  8. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    Ill keep saying it.....ive been saying henning sucks for 3 seasons now.
     
  9. bluehaze

    bluehaze New Member

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    Defense is playing to win, Offense is playing to lose...
     
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  10. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    The debate over whether it's Henning calling a crap game or if he's calling vanilla and conservative plays because Henne simply cannot make the proper reads and decisions under pressure is going to be a long standing debate this year I'm afraid.

    It could be either one or .... god forbid.... both.

    I saw a couple specific replays that really call Henne's ability to make time sensitive decisions during plays where he has a WR early.
     
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  11. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Def won the game no doubt.
     
  12. CaribPhin

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    Leave Henning to me....
     
  13. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    My only beef with Henning today was once we got the ball back after the Vikings score and HAD to get a first down, you knew exactly what was coming. Run for loss, short pass to the outside with the cornerback smothering followed by an incomplete short pass to go 3-and-out.

    The only thing that surprised me (maybe not) was that he called the exact same run on first down that got stuffed for 3-yard loss that got stuffed the first play of the last drive.
    Beyond that, I've got no issues. We were frequently backed up on our own goal line. In those situations, you have to be conservative. The running backs having fumbling issues didn't help.

    But let's not forget what we were dealing with. We were facing one of the league's better defenses. In fact, THE best run defense in the NFL the past 5 years or so. In a notoriously difficult venue where the opponent hasn't lost in two years.

    I know we want them to put the pedal down and attack. But uncommon situations dictated that we not press our luck. And in this venue, you had to be happy with the offense going on long drives, wearing on that defense and then pinning the opposing offense inside their five yard line.

    In short, the gameplan worked on offense. Three drives inside your 2 yard line and two critical fumbles will mar it. But they did well. Smart offensive football might have been the difference between winning and losing today.
     
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  14. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    jeez a voice of reason. not sure how to respond
     
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  15. SeanP

    SeanP Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I don't know... Henne looked brilliant on that pass to BMarsh, and played a very good game.

    I agree some calls by the OC were pretty ridiculous, but we had great field position through the entire first half, along with the TD strike.

    I'd love to see the passing game get opened up more, but we won. The Offense got a C today (A B if Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams didn't fumble). I'm ok with a C grade offense when our defense is playing A+ lights out for now.
     
  16. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    First and 20 and Henning calls a TE Screen?!! Even if Fasano catches it, WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO WITH IT?!! That call blew my mind.
     
  17. KeyFin

    KeyFin Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Here's the deal.....for two weeks in a row we haven't had to play agressively on offense because we've been ahead the entire game. I agree with you wholehartedly...we should have taken some shots down the field in the 3rd and early 4th quarters....but we didn't and it worked out.

    Weeks 3 and 4 are against our true rivals, and I think we will see a much different offense. We made it to this point being completely conservative (OMG the D rocked today!!!), I don't think we will see that as much against the Jets and Pats.
     
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  18. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    As long as we keep winning, I won't get on Henning for calling a safe game.

    Ronnie and Ricky; however, need to realize good RBs don't do that.
     
  19. FanMarino

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    And where the hell was Bess??? Seriously!
     
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  20. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Nah, he got paid. He'll be happy.

    As far as the offense goes... I don't know wtf is wrong with it. We can't seem to pass to save our lives. I have no problem running the ball, but where is the passing game? Why can't we connect beyond 10 yards consistently? Beyond Marshall making monster plays, we have no passing game. Is that Henne? Henning? I don't know, but something needs to be fixed.
     
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  21. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    maybe its because we're not playing a high school defense. these guys are a championship caliber defense. i didnt see new orleans lighting them up either
     
  22. Coral Reefer

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    One of the Leagues better defenses against the run.

    V.S. the pass they are lower half of the league.

    You have to be able to work an opponents weakness.
    If this team's culture is going to be to prepare the offensive unit to be prepared for conservative grind it out games only then we are going to have issues going forward. They are clearly not comfortable trying to open it up.

    The question is that I'm asking is why?

    Is it that they just don't trust Henne and the supporting WR crew or is it simply that Henning is just a conservative guy conceptually.


    You mention that on the road against tough opponents you should be conservative but I completely disagree.

    To beat top opponents on the road you have to take chances and play to win. Our D just played outstanding allowing us to win.
     
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  23. TheMageGandalf

    TheMageGandalf Senior Member

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    I think its a little of BOTH. (Henning and Henne)

    We can only hope that if we get into a shoot-out we can turn it on like a light switch.
     
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  24. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    We simply disagree. ;)

    Backed up on our own end, I don't want us taking chances. Having a great defense makes it unnecessary and IMO unwise.

    On the road playing with a lead, I don't think you take chances. You be assertive, yes. But you play the percentages and get the hell outta there with a win. Backed up on our own end, the percentages ain't great.

    I think it's predominantly the philosophy of the men in charge that we play conservative on offense. It's a run-first, don't-make-mistakes mentality. I agree that you can't continually put it on the defense to not allow more than 10 points a game. But some games just dictate that you keep it closer to the vest offensively.

    Three of our last four drives in the second half began inside the 2 yard line. That doesn't happen very often.
     
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  25. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I know everyone is all "who cares, we won?" because it was a road win---2 in a row, actually. And God knows, I am happy as all hell that we started the season with 2 wins, let alone 2 road wins, after the last couple seasons of dropping a bunch of games to start the year. But the problem is real, and it won't go away just because we feel good about our defense. Henning is a bad offensive coordinator, period.
    I don't blame Henne...it looks to me as if he can make all the throws and if he gets sacked a time or two that's better than throwing INTs. I blame Henning. A coach makes the most of what he has, and Henning is not doing that.
     
  26. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    these short sideline passes are making me pull my hair out. it really makes me wonder if its henne doing this. idk. we run far too many plays like this
     
  27. Zod

    Zod Ruler of the Universe

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    .....and here is the exclamation point to your commentary.

    Joe Flacco - 17 completions on 39 attempts and 4 interceptions
     
  28. pennphinfan

    pennphinfan Stelin Canez Arcade Scorz

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    So instead we should go for it on 4th and short or something instead of kicking it? Bc that worked real well for chilly
     
  29. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    we dont have a team built to be the Patriots or Colts offense. We have Baltimore Ravens personnell. We are running the correct offense for our personnell
     
  30. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    Giving the stats to another very troubled offense isn't exactly damning evidence. It just puts us in the category of having a troubled offense.
     
  31. Zod

    Zod Ruler of the Universe

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    Good run defenses always skew statistics. A defense can do it's job for the entire game. If the offense does it's job you are up by three scores in the 4th quarter. The opposition then does nothing but pass. The defense changes their plan from "shutdown" to just delay. It's inevitable that the pass defense will suffer statistically.
     
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  32. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    Dude you are one worry wart. Today, you might have a little point but man, were supposed to feed the wolf, not be the man who cries wolf!!


    They won in a place where not one team has won in the last 9 games. That's a pretty damned good thing......
     
  33. TheMageGandalf

    TheMageGandalf Senior Member

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    Yeah brother last week I complained some that Henne didnt do much to help win the game but this week I'll take the W in that place anyway we can get it.
     
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  34. Zod

    Zod Ruler of the Universe

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    I don't doubt that we have trouble at the QB position. That is also inevitable with this young of a QB. We kicked Peyton Manning's butt twice a year until the Colts were realigned out of the division. Everyone seems to forget that fact. But here we are in Henne's second year as a starter and people are calling for Henning's head. Why? For winning?

    The fact is that Henne falls somewhere between 15-25 among starters in this league. And folks seems to want our coordinator to "spread it and shread it". Well there is a guy in Dallas doing that with Romo and they are not winning. And he is one of the older of young quarterbacks in the league.

    Henne is not Brady. He is not Peyton Manning. He is not even a 40 year old Brett Favre. The reason I point to Flacco is that he came into the league at the same time. You can gauge Henne's success and failure against Flacco every Sunday. Today, the Baltimore Ravens took the handcuffs off Joe Flacco. He failed miserably. For that Cam Cameron must be a genius. Because the mob rule around here certainly thinks that Dan Henning is a dufus for what he's doing.
     
  35. Larry Little

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    Pissed at what? His hands?
     
  36. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    and lets not forget this same offense struggled just as much against the Bills.

    Listen even though we win I think someone needs to have a heart to heart with the coord and Henne. If He does not have faith in Henne than we either need a new coordinator with some balls or we need a new QB that is going to execute the offense.

    Why did we pay millions for marshall if we only use him sparingly? He needs 10 touches a game from here on out..

    We need to OPEN this team up... Build some confidence.
     
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  37. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    I still put more on the shoulders of the 11 on the field and their lack of execution than I do Henning 99% of the time.

    Our Offense got beat by the Vikings Defense on key situations......thats not on Henning. thats a lack of fundamentals and execution.

    Henning isnt our problem on offense, that statement concerns me more than threads about Henning.
     
  38. finfaninilinois

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    no **** what does he have to be pissed for - he had 8 balls thrown his way today and 12 last week.

    we are gonna have every other WR pissed except marshal because henne doesnt spread the ball around.

    Bess is gonna get pissed pretty soon - how in the hell does he only get 1 ball thrown his way and that was on a play that wasnt even called for him. already henne is forcing balls to marshal when he should be spreading it around
     
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  39. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    I disagree. We have a good WR corps, good pass protection and a strong-armed, reliable QB. We need to use that to our advantage more than once a game.
     
  40. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    His hands worked fine this game, when he was thrown to.
     
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