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[MERGED] Glazer - Porter ,other players confronted Cameron

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by SICK, Jan 6, 2008.

  1. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Watching the sunday pregame show on fox....supposedly Glazer said Joey Porter stood up, infront of the whole team and destroyed Cam infront of everyone, calling him spineless and a coward for kicking keith traylor off the team......and Cam simply said "Good, glad you got that out of your system, now lets prepare for Cincy"....

    He totally lost this team, so anyone who wanted Cam to have another chance....you are in the minority....this whole team wanted him gone!!!

    Glazer also said something about JT and ZT speaking out against Cam...and there was a mutiny in the locker room.....
     
  2. Brown42000

    Brown42000 Chillin

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    Guaranteed there will be a post saying if they didn't like him they could have left. The guy is not meant to be a head coach he is a coordinator and only that.
     
  3. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Agreed, he is not a leader of men
     
  4. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    The problem with coaching an 'old' team is that the players aren't going to openly accept what you tell them. Rookies will, they don't know any better. They think their first coach is a genious, or at least thats how they treat him. Guys like JT, ZT, Traylor, and Porter have been coached by Hall of Famers (Cowher, JJ, Belicheck) There not just going to respect a guy like Cam cause they'e supposed to. Cam had to earn it, and he couldn't.
     
  5. SMOKE

    SMOKE New Member

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    I was watching it too. What I don't get is why Taylor was defending Cameron prior to him getting fired. Why would he do that if he didn't like him?
     
  6. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    It is the "politically correct" thing to do as the leader of the team imo
     
  7. phinphever

    phinphever Punk, Make My Day!!

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    Hidden agenda?

    Look, the guy is gone. Why does is it seem some need to prove to others Cam was a mistake. Fine he was bad. Get over it. I supported cam a long after the time I should have had sence to give up on him. If I as a previous supporter of cam who thinks he sould have been retained can get over it and move on. Why do some need to beat a dead horse on the subject. I am as passionate as any finfan. why do we need to hear endless articales about what douch bags we were for supporting cam. I get it you think we are ******s. oK MESSAGE DELIVERED. Can we please move on.
     
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  8. cnc66

    cnc66 wiley veteran, bad spelur Luxury Box

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    so Mr H pays them millions, and instead of returning the respect by honoring the coach HE chose, they turn on him.. pieces of crap imo.. I hope bill cans every last one of them that were divisive punks in the locker room.
     
  9. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    I didn't like Cam, but i really didn't like the way Taylor handled himself all season either. Personally it feels very fake to me, like Taylors only saying nice things about Cam now because he doesn't want to come off as part of the reason Cam was fired.
     
  10. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    I was just posting something that was behind the scenes that was delivered on the pregame show today, incase people didnt see it....not a shot at you...sorry if you took it that way
     
  11. phinphever

    phinphever Punk, Make My Day!!

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    Amen, brother lol. look if they were winning games the players would have every right to complain but they were loosing They have no right to *****. their play was every bit as bad a cam's coaching if not worse.
     
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  12. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    I think, as is usually the case, you can find faults with all sides in this mess. Could Cam have handled things differently? Sure, I suppose. Could the players have acted differently? Again, I would assume that would be the case. It's apparent to me, regardless of who you "blame," that there were problems in the locker room. For a football guy like Parcells, I'm sure he saw that as well - which is why sweeping changes have been made. I think the important thing to focus on is that we are moving on from this awful season, regardless of who's "fault" it was, and focusing on the future.
     
  13. Brown42000

    Brown42000 Chillin

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    Cam was a weasle and a dewb who had no idea what he was doing, the team and locker room had every right to speak out against him. The guy deserved to be fired, not to mention he would watch the computer to make sure players were answering the questions the way they were supposed to and certain reporters to make sure they would ask the right questions.
     
  14. phinphever

    phinphever Punk, Make My Day!!

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    Na I'm not, don't worry. Just don't ever want to hear about cam anymore he burned me I had shuch high hopes and got disappointed. Maybe i should ignore the posts about cam lol. I do think we should be ok. parcells will right the ship and if he doesn't then he will be the next saban lol.
     
  15. ac_lanham

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    What goes around, comes around for Cameron. Look at how he treated Daunte earlier this season. Granted, he wasn't good for us as a QB but he lied about saying there will be an open competition and then strung Daunte around prior to releasing him. As a veteran, would you want to be treated like that? That's one huge reason why the veterans didn't like him, plus a 1-15 season, you know they were jumping for joy when Bill fired him.
     
  16. SICK

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    haha agreed!!! Hope we get out of the cellar and back into the limelight again!
     
  17. the big tuna

    the big tuna New Member

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    when he picked ginn over quinn and the fans booed him inside the training bublle i knew then he was a shmuck
     
  18. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Do not be surprised if some of those guys are gone next year!
     
  19. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    "Hey you gotta turn your thumbs THIS direction...." :up:
     
  20. cnc66

    cnc66 wiley veteran, bad spelur Luxury Box

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    pfft who cares.. Cam was THE COACH, he was the OWNERS choice.. they suck, each and every one that undermined the coach. Sadly, he didn't have the backing to crapcan porter right then and there.. so he could go hold hands with Truck
     
  21. ac_lanham

    ac_lanham Junior Member

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    I remember that fateful day :unsure: I was in the hospital room with my ailing grandmother and my uncle (a Jets fan). When it was our turn I though sure Quinn was ours, I was so anxious. When they announced the pick be laughed his rear end off. My grandmother died two days later, and the year 2007 turned out to be the worst year of my life.:sad:
     
  22. cnc66

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    no, that only meant he was smarter than you.. that's why he is a millionaire at his craft, and you and I post here.
     
  23. dolpns13

    dolpns13 Chest Rockwell is my hero

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    he lost the vets as soon as he drafted Ginn and signed Green
     
  24. lbmclean_sj

    lbmclean_sj New Member

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    we should have a special folder for threads about the past
     
  25. SICK

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    it was just reported today.......

    dont post on them and keep them fresh on the new thread page then :thumbup:
     
  26. lbmclean_sj

    lbmclean_sj New Member

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    the Miami press reported this quite a while ago and there is probably a very good reason why nobody cared
     
  27. alen1

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    he is not SPARTAN!!
     
  28. inFINSible

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    Sorry to hear that. Hope 2008 treats you better.
     
  29. SICK

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    GIVE THEM NOTHING......BUT TAKE FROM THEM....EVERYTHING!!!!
     
  30. SICK

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    3 pages of replys, plus 2 from you.....it wasnt exactly something that "nobody cared" about


    do you have anything constructive to add?
     
  31. ChambersWI

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    just a question cnc, why do you seem so venomous? Tired of talking about Cam, or just think undermining him was bush league? I did not like Cam after awhile, but the players did not do the right thing.

    People talk about what Cam did to C-Pep, and looking back on it, the team turning on him after that (atleast a lot of Vets did not like the move) should have been a hint that this marriage was not gonna work. Remember how Billicheck treated Lawyer Milloy a couple years ago, and then told him to leave only days before the season started? He had players calling for his head, and everybody was sure he would be fired. The team lost 2 games that year.

    Part of that is probably Cam's fault, but the blame also rests on the players shoulders (I do remember JT in particular did not support Green)
     
  32. nenothtu

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    Joey Porter is a punk that should have never been signed. I wish Parcells would get rid of his sorry butt before next season.
     
  33. big0mar

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    if given the opprotunity, i would probably confront cam also
     
  34. mexdolfan

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    He's a rude guy, but a nice LB. He's also a very expensive player, but his stats are fine, just fine: 65 tackles, 56 solo, 5.5 sacks, 1 ff, 2 ints.

    Trying to understand his behavior about Cam, one of the responsible crew that hired him, he was tired of failing, and opposite to the general conception, he wants to be a winner. Even there's no way to justify his actions, but he was reacting with impotence about the results.

    He's not the kind of leader we need, but with Parcells as boss, he'll have to change his mind.
     
  35. Desides

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    Exactly.

    I think too many people here are enamored with the concept of the strongman head coach.
     
  36. Nublar7

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    He may be a punk, but he is the best linebacker we have. Despite all the negativity he received for his play early in the year, he turned out a pretty good year overall.

    Cutting/Trading him is not an option after the contract Mueller gave him. It is not financially worth getting rid of him. Hopefully with no non-sense people like Parcells and Sparano running the show, they can keep Porter's off the field crap to a minimum. He is still a good player.
     
  37. SICK

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    Yeah he was good for us this year, his stats were very pleasant......be good to see him in our defense next year....his off the field stuff wasnt really anything big during the season....the before season stuff with levi jones got cut off quickly once the season started. Besides i like having a firey guy on our defense for every play, regardless of record
     
  38. FinFan_Est.1984

    FinFan_Est.1984 Get Aggressive!!!

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    Nice guys can win and be followed, if they command respect and carry themselves as such. Cameron was in over his head and is better suited as an OC. He is not head coach material and now it has been proven twice. Once in Indiana and now in Miami.
     
  39. psingh01

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    I hope they get rid of Porter.
     
  40. dolphindebby

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    There were times he acted more like a man than many of the people around him.
    IMO it takes a real man to be able to control his temper and not act like a jerk. It would have been much easier to act like a child and throw tantrums, but he kept his cool through a lot of junk,and for that, I admire him.
     
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