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[MERGED] News on Camarillo, Hilliard, Merling

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by ATVZ400, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

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    Camarillo getting some first-team work
    http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed.../greg-camarillo-getting-some-first-team-work/


    Fresh Phins: Miami Dolphins' Tuesday practice
    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...9/fresh-phins-dolphins-saturday-practice.html
     
  2. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Some interesting info on Greg C, Hilliard, Greg Camarillo

    Well, if Hilliard is to make the 53man he will have to block better than I've seen him block during the preseason, and GregC running with the first team is no surprise, that 50yd run last game did not go unnoticed.

    I still think Hartline will start this season, maybe not on opening day, but he will start.
     
  3. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    I agree
     
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  4. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    This hurts my Greg Camarillo theory
     
  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    My Greg C theory is he is trade bait and they want to showcase him for KC.
     
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  6. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    I still think Cam is gone.

    Either that or London is out.
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Nahh, we keep Camarillo. You don't get rid of players like him. Class acts that give it their all no matter what.

    IMO, London will be outside looking in.
     
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  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    London is a goner. Camarillo starts opposite Ginn. Hartline, Bess and Turner will battle throughout the season for the number 3 spot
     
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  9. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    Yeah, I also think London will be the odd man out if we're going with 5 WRs. And actually to me, 5 WRs makes sense since we're supposed to be a run first offense.
    Camarillo? Probably the guy starting opposite Ginn for now. But who knows Hartline may yet win out. I could see Camarillo being traded if the price was right. You never can tell what a team will offer for a guy. No one would have guessed that someone would actually give up a 2 (and 7) for a Wes Welker. But I do not believe he's being actively shopped. I just can't see it. Right now we seem to be waiting/hoping for some of these WRs to step up and distinguish himself. Do you really want to give up the wrong one? So IMO looking to get rid of them now would seem to be pretty premature.
     
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  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Teams get rid of players like thsi all of the time
     
  11. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    This is what I am thinking as well. As long as Camarillo is healthy, he starts IMO.
     
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  12. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Aint a chance in hell Camarillo goes anywhere outside of a genuinely desperate team throwing picks around.
    Yup, and are generally mocked heavily for it.
     
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  13. B.Sebo

    B.Sebo TV Mastermind

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    I've said it before and I will say it again, Camarillo is the best receiver on this team (right now) and would have been in the Pro Bowl discussion last year had he not got hurt.

    He will start and he will prove all of you that doubt him and/or want to cut him in favor of a model wrong . . . again.

    Yes, I am a big Camarillo fan, so I am a bit biased, I will admit that.
     
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  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    No one outside of Miami is going to Mock Miami for moving/cutting Camarillo
     
  15. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I totally disagree. For one Camarillo is behind Bess as Bess out performed him by a great margin when he took over.

    I also disagree that he would of been in the Pro Bowl discussion.
     
  16. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I agree, they won't be.
     
  17. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You uh, look at what their projected stats would be over a full season as starters?
     
  18. padre31

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    Ravens fans think we cut Greg C and he winds up in Baltimore because he knows Cam Cameron's offense from 2007.

    I'd trade Greg C straight up for Yamon Figurs.
     
  19. PHINANALYST

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    i don't know many on this site who don't like CAM ... the problem is having too many 'like' WRs ... that's why CAM is the likely candidate to get moved ...

    it is not an issue of moving CAM to keep London ... not a chance ... London just benefits IF that happens ...
     
  20. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Yes Bess's are higher and the amount of touchdowns throw by the offense is higher AND converted 3rd and longs.
     
  21. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    Maybe this is by design.
    I don't think it's an accident that we have of them.
    1. I think it's safe to assume that the people who evaluate talent here knew the kind of WRs Hartline and Turner are long before they were drafted.
    2. It's also safe to say that they were well aware of the similarities shared by Camarillo, and Hartline, as well as what Bess and Ginn bring to the table.
    3. Knowing all this they still showed little if any interest in acquiring any of those big name WRs. Not through trade, nor through FA.
    4. Yet they also ignored Nicks, Brit, Robiskie, Massaquoi, etc in the draft.
    I think we have this group because these are the guys that the team wanted.
     
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  22. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So wait...the amount of touchdowns thrown by the offense? You're going to give Bess credit for passes thrown to other players? And for a higher percentage of first downs per game, despite as far as I can tell, that stat not being checked?

    Here's the reality of both of their times as starters being extrapolated over 16 games-

    Camarillo- 80 catches, 891 yards, 3 TDs
    Bess- 84 catches, 960 yards, 0 TDs

    This is not remotely close to true.
     
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