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Merged: Suh's post interview / Suh Freelancing?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    ''We havent been startin out fast and furious, and throwin the first punches, they set the tone, and we had to take what they gave us''

    ''we need to figure out whats best for our front line players, our back end players, we need to go back to drawing board''...'' we need to set the tone''

    literally said that three different times..

    http://www.miamidolphins.com/multim...he_Media/4557a208-5b24-458d-a644-6c2303a74c5d

    ''the miami herald has learned that suh freelanced at times creating confusion for the defense''


    either he doesnt believe in what the coaches are selling or he's freelancing and needs to be reeled in.
     
  2. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    seems like he doesn't believe in our coaches or what they are doing on defense, also seems the sluggish magoo like attitude of our HC isn't lost on him.
     
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  3. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    So coaching sucks and it takes Suh one and a half games to decide to ignore them.

    Took Odrick two years to blow up publicly. Suh is less tolerant of incompetence. Lol.

    Philbin will ask Tannenbaum to trade or cut Suh asap. Lol.


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  5. 3Pmi

    3Pmi IT Specialist Staff Member Administrator

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    I had reservations about signing Suh this offseason. Not so much because of Suh, but because of how I didn't think he'd mesh very well with the coaching staff. Suh is an intense dude who has a reputation here in Detroit for interesting comments in pressers.

    I think it is a bit early to call this anything like a failed experiment or anything crazy like that, but after the "chat" on the sideline with Philbin and now these comments, I think it deserves monitoring. If it comes to it, I think a Philbin/Coyle/Suh clash could spell the end for Philbin and company. I think we can all guess how a dispute between highest-paid defensive player and lowest paid coach will go.
     
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  6. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Not making the playoffs and losing to a team like the Jaqs is going to spell the end of Philbin and this coaching staff. The fact Suh might be clashing with the coaching staff is a given when you consider how many players have questioned this coaching staff over the past three years.

    I just wonder if Suh is now questioning if signing with a team who was willing to pay him the most money was really worth having to deal with such an incompetent coaching staff.
     
  7. Georgia Fin

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    No way in hell does this go a full 14 weeks and end well. Joe is a tractor trailer stuck on the train tracks, the only question is when is the next train coming.
     
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  8. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry but he's getting paid way too much money to come in here and not do what the coaches tell him to do. We didn't bring him here to create his own scheme and freelance. Either way, he's been non-existent, just like the rest of our defense.
     
  9. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Well...heres how I see it. Philbin and Coyle are hurting this team. Not sure how anyone can argue thats not the case. Suh is off to his worst start in his career, I think, and he took it upon himself to make **** happen. Forget this coaching staff
     
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  10. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Hello...where have you been last few weeks. He freelanced because the Coaches suck. Him freelancing actually made a difference in the game.
     
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  11. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    good news is if its suh or philbin, philbin is gone. should have been gone years ago, ross must like wasting time.
     
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  12. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    add lazor to that list. no suprise that philbins uselessness rubbed off on lazor. philbin is a cancer destroying this team
     
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  13. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    No doubt. Did we smoke the Packers while he was a coach there and he's secretly getting payback?!?!?

    Seriously though, he don't have this team.
     
  14. SICK

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    Saw Suh a couple times telling Shelby something As jax came out of huddle then they'd stunt or twist at the snap. Suh was absolutely calling his own stuff at times.


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  15. Alex13

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    freelancing or not, this guy is a huge disappointment so far, the much needed push from the middle this signing was suppposed to bring.....i'm still waiting to see it
     
  16. MikeHoncho

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    That's actually not far from the truth.
     
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  17. dolphin25

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    and Odrick actually made plays yesterday
     
  18. Tannephins

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    Then again, if you're going to pay somebody that sort of money, you ought to be comfortable giving him some sort of "voice" in this regard. That doesn't mean he should be doing his own thing during games, but when he has something to say in meetings, you probably ought to listen and incorporate some of it. Otherwise, why did you pay him that much? Surely if he's worth that sort of money, his contribution doesn't stop at being merely the "robot" you send out there to follow your instructions.
     
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  19. firedan

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    Looks like the next train arrives Sunday at 4:25pm.
    Let's hope they are ready for the Rex express!
     
  20. 3Pmi

    3Pmi IT Specialist Staff Member Administrator

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    After Philbin was retained last year, I don't have any faith that Philbin won't be able to blame it on his coordinators, fire Coyle a year after it was obvious he needed to go, struggle to find a replacement due to lame duck status, and then continue to coach us to a ****ty record again next year. Shouldn't be able to, but he's at least got a shot at it even if we don't make the playoffs.
     
  21. Disgustipate

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    Suh wouldn't be the first Dolphins defensive linemen to have an issue.

    Randy Starks and Jared Odrick both have, and I'm sure that there are other players as well. I'd imagine that Olivier Vernon probably isn't too happy with the defensive coaching either.
     
  22. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Can you fire a coordinator during the season? I know the Ravens did it to Cammy Cameron, but can we just fire Coyle now? If yes who would take over the rest of the season? Legitimate question here on my part, I mean there is no way in Hell our defense should be struggling like this.
     
  23. Disgustipate

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    Mark Duffner would almost certainly be the guy who would take over for Kevin Coyle in-season.

    I'm kind of curious if Joe Philbin would throw anyone under the bus like that, unless forced.
     
  24. MikeHoncho

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    Was that the year they won the Superbowl?
     
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  25. Finster

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    Suh freelanced all the time in Detroit, he's not good enough to play lane responsible and still be disruptive.

    As I have been saying all along, that signing was a huge mistake.
     
  26. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    Joe philbin's loyalty will cost miami another year. In fact, ross's loyalty too.
     
  27. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    Yes...Baltimore won the SB that year.
     
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  28. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    He would not. He wasn't going to fire Turner after that cluster happened, there's no way he's capable of firing a guy on his own initiative.
     
  29. Unlucky 13

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    Suh isn't wrong with what he's saying, however he obviously needs to follow the gameplan or it isn't going to work, either. Its a mess. NOT changing out Philbin and Coyle after last year was a mistake from the moment the choice was made, and it has the potential to get ugly. Instead of getting the best out of all the talent we have on both sides of the ball, we're going to just scrape through the year yet again.

    I'll keep my hopes up every single week. Its what I do. But I think it'll be harder for the next head coach to come in and just take over without a lot of changes. At this point, hopefully Tannehill is a selling point, along with Landry, and we can bring in a defensive HC who scraps everything on that side of the ball other than Suh, Jones and a few others and starts fresh.
     
  30. ckparrothead

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    For all he supposedly put his job on the line refusing to fire Mike Sherman (to where they remain friends to this day), I notice that Mike Sherman was dismissed and Joe Philbin still kept his job. So...

    I would never accuse our fair sergeant of being strong in the face of pressure. If Ross and Tannenbaum wanted it done, it would probably be done.
     
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  31. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Incidentally let me translate what Ndamukong Suh is saying.

    He's saying, like Jared Odrick and Randy Starks before him, that the scheme is not playing to the talents of the players on the defensive line, and they should change it.
     
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  32. cdnfinfan

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    or maybe he's just sick of being told to stay in a spot where you continually have offensive lineman diving at your legs.



    You really are proving to not be very knowledgeable with football
     
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  33. Phins_Fan_87

    Phins_Fan_87 Phins and Heat fan Club Member

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    Is it the coaches being stubborn? Why isn't tannenbaum doing or saying anything? Are they giving the coaching staff enough rope to hang themselves? Seems like the same **** as last year and year before. ****ed up.
     
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  34. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    This is going to be one of those club level revelations that there's pictures of people's junk in a safe somewhere.
     
  35. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    WOW, just holy freakin WOW.
     
  36. brandon27

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    I'm really not sure why Philbin just doesn't get it. I mean, at what point as the head coach do you start looking at things and trying to put it into perspective? We had two good DLmen, complaining about the system, and we were ineffective. So, we got rid of them, stuck with the scheme, and made it "simpler", brought in Suh, and some other new guys that have a proven track record, and we are still ineffective.

    I don't get why it's taking this fool so long to realize that maybe, just maybe it's the damn scheme, and it's not all on the players. His stubborn stupidity is going to be his downfall, and I personally, can't wait much longer.
     
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  37. Brasfin

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    Darlington's dead on here:

     
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  38. Rocky Raccoon

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    Kevin Coyle isn't stupid. At what point does he realize what he's doing isn't working and the talent you he has knows it? Multiple players have said "this isn't working" so why doesn't he make adjustments? Stubbornness?
     
  39. Rocky Raccoon

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    Jared Odrick and Randy Starks are good players, but Suh is all world. If Suh has an issue with the scheme then Coyle better listen to what he has to say. It's clearly not good enough.
     
  40. Phins Up Wins Up

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    At this point best case scenario is the team gets 5 wins and they finally fire Philbin, Coyle, and Lazor. They're all bad. Bringing this team no where. How do you mess up with Suh and Wake? Any coach that can't bring a pass rush with those guys really blows. Also Tannehill needs to be more mobile and get some throws down the damn field. Instead of all this dink and dunk play calling. Last possession of the game no time outs and 40 seconds left the team was still doing the dink and dunk. This run game is the worst in the NFL. And can we finally get an offensive line this offseason?!
     

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