MERGED: With the First Pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, The Miami Dolphins Select.....

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I cant wait till the draft is here. we've beat this to death
Sorry, had too...

The only ones worthy of the 1st pick is Dorsey, Long, and McFatty and we dont need McFatty so I dont care who we take whether is dorsey or long...

Ultimately I hope to god we can trade down* because not 1 player in this draft is worth 40 mil garuanteed

"dolpns13 wrote:

:yawn:

I cant wait till the draft is here. we've beat this to death
Sorry, had too...

Unfortunately this season gave us a head start on the discussion...

I don't see a draft with only two defensive players taken, especially after last year.

Glenn Dorsey makes sense to me.
I think we were ranked 30th against the run this season.

"emocomputerjock wrote:

I don't see a draft with only two defensive players taken, especially after last year.

It really depends upon Free Agent signings. To early to say one way of the other as to our draft focus.

"emocomputerjock wrote:

I don't see a draft with only two defensive players taken, especially after last year.

too true, we need LB's in the worst way

There are no free agent DT's as good as Glenn Dorsey. Albert Haynesworth is there but is he better than Dorsey? He had a great season but where was he the rest of his career? Anyways, he is in contract negotiaions with the Titans.

not a bad mock but not even a mention of gholston??

"sabanhater wrote:

Glenn Dorsey makes sense to me.
I think we were ranked 30th against the run this season.

32nd 153 ypg :thumbup:

I knew it was bad. I wasn't sure if we were the worst.

now we know....

"dolpns13 wrote:

32nd 153 ypg :thumbup:

Co-sign

"dolpns13 wrote:

:yawn:

I cant wait till the draft is here. we've beat this to death
Sorry, had too...

Ultimately I hope to god we can trade up because not 1 player in this draft is worth 40 mil garuanteed

Me too

"dolpns13 wrote:

:yawn:

I cant wait till the draft is here. we've beat this to death
Sorry, had too...

The only ones worthy of the 1st pick is Dorsey, Long, and McFatty and we dont need McFatty so I dont care who we take whether is dorsey or long...

Ultimately I hope to god we can trade up because not 1 player in this draft is worth 40 mil garuanteed

I believe you meant trade down? It's kinda hard to trade up if you already sit at #1, don't ya think? Not trying to a smart-a$$, just pointing out a fact, Bro.

"sgtphin wrote:

I believe you meant trade down? It's kinda hard to trade up if you already sit at #1, don't ya think? Not trying to a smart-a$$, just pointing out a fact, Bro.

yeah, I mean trade down smart***.. jk :smile:

Any scenario that DOESNT have us picking up a stud Linebacker is suicide. You think just by picking Dorsey our defense is gonna be able to stop the run?

"emocomputerjock wrote:

I don't see a draft with only two defensive players taken, especially after last year.

Guys, Our defense was HORRIBLE last year. I could very well see that being our entire draft. Bottom line is in today's nfl you NEED to have a solid offense. NO matter HOW good your defense is. Bc the rules are swayed towards offense and like we used to find out... if your offense sucks your d will get tired by the end of the game anyway. I think offense is a LOT harder to build. Get a great offense and then build the D. Look at what Indy did. Look at NE this year (D is ok, but that o...)

Get one or two great players on D (Dorsey and a CB) and I think that will help the D immensely and allow us to continue to build the offense.

"Oboy wrote:

Guys, Our defense was HORRIBLE last year. I could very well see that being our entire draft. Bottom line is in today's nfl you NEED to have a solid offense. NO matter HOW good your defense is. Bc the rules are swayed towards offense and like we used to find out... if your offense sucks your d will get tired by the end of the game anyway. I think offense is a LOT harder to build. Get a great offense and then build the D. Look at what Indy did. Look at NE this year (D is ok, but that o...)

Get one or two great players on D (Dorsey and a CB) and I think that will help the D immensely and allow us to continue to build the offense.

Realistically in FA and the draft we need to acquire....

offense - a veteran qb, a te, an OT (either left moving Carey back to right or a right) 2 guards, and a wr with size.

defense - 2 DT (yes we need 2), DE, OLB, ILB, CB,

We need a LOT of help.

"azfinfanmang wrote:

Any scenario that DOESNT have us picking up a stud Linebacker is suicide. You think just by picking Dorsey our defense is gonna be able to stop the run?

D-line is really important, If Running backs our getting to the linebackers(that means your running game suck.) Thats means their in the 4-5 yard a carry zone. A line backer needs DL in front of him to help him start the run.

"Dfan06 wrote:

D-line is really important, If Running backs our getting to the linebackers(that means your running game suck.) Thats means their in the 4-5 yard a carry zone. A line backer needs DL in front of him to help him start the run.

NIce, but RB's were averaging more than just 4-5 yards a game..and guess what, as much as I LOVE Dorsey (In a manley football type of way) he isnt gonna stop that alone.

I like Dorsey, and I think without any doubt, we pick up a STUD lb in the second round.

"azfinfanmang wrote:

NIce, but RB's were averaging more than just 4-5 yards a game..and guess what, as much as I LOVE Dorsey (In a manley football type of way) he isnt gonna stop that alone.

I like Dorsey, and I think without any doubt, we pick up a STUD lb in the second round.

I actually think we go lb at our 2nd 2 rounder or in the third even. We can pick up some good talent there like J. Lehman, Goff, or Beau Bell.

1_ Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
2) Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
3) Chris Long DE Virginia
4) Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State
5) Matt Ryan QB Boston College
6) Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State
7) Sedrick Ellis DT USC
8) Calais Campbell DE Miami
9) Kenny Phillips S Miami
10) Mike Jenkins CB South Florida
11) Jake Long OT Michigan
12) Keith Rivers OLB USC
13) Brian Brohm QB Louisville
14) James Laurinitus LB Ohio State
15) Ryan Clady OT Boise State
16) Jeff Otah LT Pittsburgh
17) Antoine Cason CB Arizona
18) Dan Conner LB Penn State
20) Dominique Rodgers Cromartie CB Tennesse State
21) James Hardy WR Indiana
22) Fred Davis TE USC
23) Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
24) Limas Sweed WR Texas
25) Adarius Bowman WR Oklahoma State

As you can see from my power Rankings, I am a huge fan of Vernon gholston and would not be terribly depressed if he were the pick. Bottom Line, GLENN DORSEY

"azfinfanmang wrote:

You think just by picking Dorsey our defense is gonna be able to stop the run?

The run defense will take an immediate leap forward, yes.

"Desides wrote:

The run defense will take an immediate leap forward, yes.

I am a HUGE advocate of Dorsey, and I think we Will take him...but, he is 303 playing DT in a 4-3..He is gonna probably project to DE in parnsips grand scheme, and unless he has help behind him he isnt going to be able to single-handedly stop the run.

I say that if Dan Connor or Crable are there at 32, they will also be wearing Orange and Aqua.

"RealDriscoll wrote:

A lot of names have been thrown around such as Chris Long, Darren McFadden, Jake Long, Matt but with this pick the Miami Dolphins should select the best player in this draft, Glenn Dorsey. Yes I did say that Dorsey is the best player in the draft over Darren McFadden and Chris Long.

Why not Darren McFadden?

-McFadden is going to be a good and maybe great NFL Running Back. With that said I am very optimistic on the return and future of Ronnie Brown. What Ronnie showed us of his shortened season was not only promising, it was MVPish. If Brown plays a whole season like he played before his injury and Tom Brady doesn't have the best season that anyone has ever had, Ronnie Brown is the MVP of the league on the worst team in the league. Wow! I think the fact that he is almost running already is indeed a very positive sign. I do not question Ronnie's durability and predict that he will be a clear cut Top 5 Running Back in the league for years to come.

Simply put, ronnie has played 3 seasons and has managed to play all 16 games 0 times. Regardless of how good he can play in 7 the NFL plays 16 games and more if you do well. There is nothing good about a back that can't make it the entire season. Do you see any of our other backs as talented enough to keep our team on a playoff run when ronnie goes down on the 10-13th game of ever season?

Regardless of how many RBs you have its always good to have more. It is not a problem to have 2 1st tier rbs, especially when 1 has proven he cant carry the load for the entire season. If we cant trade the pick and we dont plan on picking up kevin smith then Mcfadden has my 1st vote.

Why Not Jake Long?

-Long will not be a dominant Left Tackle in the NFL. His skill set does not include that of a high caliber left tackle. Jake Long will be a Right Tackle in the NFL and #1 pick money is way too much to pay a right tackle. Jeff Otah out of Pittsburgh would b e a much better option for this team at Left Tackle. I like Long's intensity, mean streak, and strength but he just isn't blessed with the feet to make him elite.

I personally haven't seen much of his play so i can't judge this. That being said the Tuna knows how to pick up linemen better than most. If he gets picked I assume that Bill gave approval and that will be good enough for me. This is also a position that can be and i think should be filled through FA

Why Not Matt Ryan?

Ryan could become a great NFL QB but the key word is COULD. I know players such as Carson Palmer, Peyton Manning, and Big Ben have been first round picks but drafting a QB this high just scares me. If it doesn't pan out, it kills your franchise for years to come. I don't think Ryan is as good as QB Prospects over the last several years and to be honest I am not sure how much better, if any, he is than John Beck. It is not fair to give Beck a bad grade as a rookie b/c the supporting cast around him was just terrible. The one thing that was obvious is that he was not comfortable yet which caused him to fumble a few ball. Bottom Line is that ROOKIE Quarterback's turn the ball over. Let's talk about the poise he was showing against the Steelers and Eagles in their houses; not to mention that they are two of the hardest places to play in football. Let's talk about the arm strength and accuracy he portrayed against the Bengals in the 2nd half. I am sold on John beck and think he has a bright future here in Miami.

You are sold on a QB that is older than many of the vets? I'm not sold on anyone after 1 year. At this point if he were a normal NFL QB he would have 3 years of practice under his belt. I think Beck is a good man for following his faith the way he did but it does not make him an nfl QB. He is going to be 30 soon, a time when he should be entering the prime of his career and he will still be learning how to be an nfl qb. We need a #1 round qb eventually, picking the OPA (oldest pick available) was another cameron mistake and its time you people see it.

Why Not Chris Long?

Nothing really negative to say here except Dorsey's ceiling is much higher than Long's. Chris Long is an absolute machine with a non stop motor and he will cause havoc in the NFL for years to come. Being a Maryland Alumni, I know full the effects of playing against Chris Long, Al Groh even said that Long is the best player he ever coached not name Lawrence Taylor. If Not Dorsey, then long is the pick BUT ....

I call that high praise. We will be losing taylor next year if not this year. This man will make the transition for us easier. He has my 2nd vote if we get stuck with this pick.

WHY DORSEY:

Dorsey would make an immediate impact for our team. The man demands double and in some cases triple teams and still gets to the ball. Getting sacks and tackles is not a defensive tackle's primary objective. The primary objective of the position is to eat blockers so that everyone around him can make plays. Dorsey does that better than anyone I have ever seen. He is nasty, intense, and one bad mofo. Passing on Dorsey would be a huge mistake. As far as him being an injury prone player, one injury doesn't mean your prone especially when that injury comes from an illegal chop-block. Why Dorsey? He is the best player in the draft.

Round 1: Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
Round 2(a): James Hardy WR Indiana
Round 2 (b): Dominique Rodgers Cromartie CB Tennessee State
Round 3: Martin Rucker TE Missouri
Round 4: Barry Richardson OT Clemson
Round 6: Matt Flynn QB LSU
Round 7: Andrew Bain G Miami

That's My Fins Mock: Complete Mock coming soon

I dint see much double teaming during the championship game. I saw a short slow player get blocked effectively by 1 man. I saw him jump on the ball carrier a few times after he had already been tackled. believe me the announcers wanted to call his name but didn't. Just because the press builds you up doesn't mean you are what they say you are.

If you use the #1 pick overall on a player with a history of injuries it will bite you in the end.