I was looking at cbs and who might be cut and Jabar Gaffney came up would you guys be interested? At this point I just want someone who isn't going to drop the ball and help build Tannehill's confidence for the next season
I mean Gaffney did almost have 1000 yards last year with Grossman and Beck there throwing him the ball. Are there any other expected cuts you might be interested in?
It's hard for me too guess who will or will not be cut...I'd be looking for a guy who could stretch the field and hold onto the ball. As fore mentioned teams like GB and NYG will have to let go of some talent at the position.
With the log jam @ WR and RB in SF, Kyle Williams may be a casualty... Brandon Gibson is worth watching over in ST Louis as well.
If SF keeps that slew of RBs, they can't keep 6 WRs...that leaves. Crabtree AJ Jenkins Moss Manningham Ginn SF couldn't wait to resign Ginn especially after Wiliams basically cost them a birth to the SB. If they keep 5, I bet Kyle is the casualty. If not? I'll gladly take any of the other options.
Exactly he's pretty reliable and he's way better than Nanee, who from everything I've heard is likely to make the team. I'd much rather have someone like Gaffney
It's a tough deal, because you're balancing wanting to develop Tannehill with receivers who can play, with wanting to develop young receivers, who players like Gaffney are not. If you're rebuilding, you want to develop players like young receivers, but if you're developing a quarterback, you need receivers who can play. I think the happy medium is that you make sure your starters are reliable and capable guys like Hartline and Bess, and you develop the guys further down on the depth chart, which means I think you don't need players like Gaffney, as long as Hartline is healthy. I do think there needs to be a solution for Naanee. Tannehill IMO needs someone more capable out there starting. Hopefully he's just a placeholder for Hartline who will soon be back.
I still say Gaffney would be worth it this year its not like the young guys we have are that extraordinary and we all seem to agree that Naanee isn't worth it
Right, but the young guys at least have the potential of becoming extraordinary (i.e., something better than ordinary) with further development, whereas Gaffney has hit his ceiling and is still simply ordinary. If you're a rebuilding team, there is no need for guys who have hit their ceiling and are still simply ordinary. Again, the other concern of course is that you're developing a rookie quarterback, so again the happy medium IMO is that you make sure your starters, and maybe your third WR, are capable. I'd say as long as Hartline, Bess, and Gates are healthy, there is no need for the Jabbar Gaffneys of the world. Now if you want to nominate a younger guy who still has some undeveloped potential, or an extraordinary veteran (i.e., unlike Gaffney), I'd be all for that.
If we can get Gaffney, I say get him. Tanne needs more reliable receivers who can catch ball consistently if he is to develop as soon as possible. I've read all the anti-Gaffney comments above and not a single one makes sense to me.
And Kyle Williams is still looking to see where both those fumbles vs the Giants went. Do. Not. Want.
I dont understand the anti-Gaffney comments either the guy has produced well for the last 2 years....btw that girl in your sig is amazing
He's three years younger than Chad Johnson, has consistent hands, runs a great slant pattern, and has been a good soldier, his environment changes but his production doesn't.Id bring him in if he's cut..like to know why he's being cut.
My issue with the Gaffney-type players is this: if Brian Hartline is healthy and can start, which I'm assuming he soon will be and will, and your top two other receivers are Bess and Gates, then whom do you cut to make a Jabbar Gaffney type your fourth WR? I don't think it makes sense to cut any of the other WRs who stand to make the team to have a Jabbar Gaffney type as your fourth WR, not on a rebuilding team where the development of young players is the primary goal. I don't want to cut a Marlon Moore, Julius Pruitt, or Rishard Matthews, and sacrifice their potential development (as well as their special teams play) on my rebuilding team so that I can have a Jabbar Gaffney type in the peripheral role of fourth WR.
That should really throw up some red flags to the front office about the sad state of our wr corp Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Well if you think that then I can see why you'd want to sign him. If I thought he'd be our best receiver I'd want to sign him too.
I am watching the game again this morning and Naanee dropped two passes out right, but there was at least one bad throw. Fasano had some inexcusable drops, especially in the endzone. However, there appears to be a timing issue there. Naanee still doesn't get separation and has serious flaws in his game, but I might have bee exceptionally hard on him. Still don't want him on roster.
I see your point, I'd bring him in , let RT throw to him for a session, see what kind of chemistry there is, if its good and if you cut Naane, then maybe you can.
Not saying he's an ideal number 1 target but still only guy on the team I might rather have would be Bess at receiver
You bring up a valid point. However, in my opinion, none of those receivers save for Matthews have shown any reason as to why they deserve a roster spot. Gaffney, I believe, will give us better production at a position that is a HUGE need.
There have been some great teams with lesser known WR squads. I think the committe approach can work.
It's not really about it being a lesser known squad. What has this WR squad shown you that makes you think it can work out? I'm honestly asking. The only potential saving grace is if Gates decides to go HAM on opposing defenses this year.
I am not even advocating for a number one receiver. I undertand the primace for the WCO. You can use lesser known quanities at wr, but we have a group that can't do the things necessary to play in the WCO, like catching the ball consistently and running after the catch, or getting separation.
I dont know that we need someone to go deep. We need someone who can get open and catch the ball on a consistant basis. Once Hartline is healthy, I think that he and Bess are a solid #2 and #3, but the problem is that not only do we not have a number One, the rest of the guys dont even look like #4s. If we can somehow get another guy who is a competant starter opposite Hartline, then I think that we'll be ok. The team just needs to eliminate 4 and 5 WR sets from the playbook, LOL. Roll with a lot of formations that get Bush, Fasano and Clay on the field at the same time.
Skins will waive Armstrong or Banks, imo either would be an upgrade. Naanee has the "practice like Tarzan, play like Jane" thing going on..we can do better.
And I think we can do better with someone like Jeff Fuller. Now there may be a better "Jeff Fuller" who is cut from another team, but the point is to stay with the theme of young player development here, since this team is rebuilding.
Just watching the game , and the drop by Fasano that should have been a TD reception was awful. Critical play , chance to take the lead after the interception , Tanney leads the team down the field from inside our own 20 and basically gets you a major score , except a veteran leader at a key position for your rookie QB simply doesn't make the play he needs to. We have a lot of guys with questions , no proven track records , no real reason to expect substantive improvement and we are counting on them to do that.
every team needs veterans. i dont see the harm in signing him to a one year contract. hartline is a big question mark and bess is the only one that can catch the ball consistently. we wont be sacrificing rebuilding as much as you are implying by signing a vet wr to a small contract. we would be sacrificing tannehills confidence if we dont make a move like this. its just a matter of time before tannehill gets extremely frustrated and makes bad decisions. it would also just be a matter of time before defenses shut down bess if we dont make a move like this.
