Merged:Is Chad Henne's job in trouble?

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ATVZ400ATVZ400New MemberOP
Oct 6, 2010, 02:52 PM

Is Chad Henne's job in trouble?
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/19546/is-chad-hennes-job-in-trouble

In a video piece for "Countdown Daily," Hasselbeck said he has been impressed with Henne and partially blamed Brandon Marshall for the third interception Monday night.

"When I watch Chad Henne, I'm not really that discouraged about his game," Hasselbeck said. "We saw in the Monday night game he throws for over 300 yards, throws a couple of touchdowns. We saw the interceptions, and partly, in my mind, a lot of it has to do with guys being dropped back into coverage. You have to be patient. You can't force the ball to Brandon Marshall on a deep in cut when you have Ricky Williams open in the flat.

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Darrelle RevisDarrelle RevisNew Member
Oct 6, 2010, 02:56 PM

At this point, he's inconsistent. He shows flashes of a very good QB. However, maturity and time is something that will get him over those problems.

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Roman529Roman529New Member
Oct 6, 2010, 03:21 PM

I think Henne will have a decent career but I would prefer that he became our backup. I think Henne has the same problem that Cutler (of the Bears) has. He stares down his wide receiver and takes too long to deliver it resulting in a lot of pickoffs and bat down passes.

I would still play Henne to see what he has, but if he contues struggling then maybe you see what Thigpen can do. I would hate having to draft another QB but I think we may have to next year. Henne is better then Feeley, Beck, White,,,who else am I missing??? BUT I still am not convinced he is our future QB.

BicketyBamBicketyBamforum_veteran
Oct 6, 2010, 03:22 PM

"Darrelle Revis wrote:

At this point, he's inconsistent. He shows flashes of a very good QB. However, maturity and time is something that will get him over those problems.


Sounds like another QB I know whose name rhymes with Manchez.

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adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 6, 2010, 03:24 PM

"Roman529 wrote:

I think Henne will have a decent career but I would prefer that he became our backup. I think Henne has the same problem that Cutler (of the Bears) has. He stares down his wide receiver and takes too long to deliver it resulting in a lot of pickoffs and bat down passes.

I would still play Henne to see what he has, but if he contues struggling then maybe you see what Thigpen can do. I would hate having to draft another QB but I think we may have to next year. Henne is better then Feeley, Beck, White,,,who else am I missing??? BUT I still am not convinced he is our future QB.

he's shown enough that he has to get three years of starting time. if he still has the inconsistencies and flaws next year we can start discussing benching him but for now his progress has been great. still inconsistent but that should improve



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Oct 6, 2010, 03:24 PM

Damn you know it's bad when Jets fans are trying to make us feel okay about our team :lol:

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Oct 6, 2010, 03:31 PM

"BicketyBam wrote:

Sounds like another QB I know whose name rhymes with Manchez.

Which is ironic because he isnt a man at all....

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GridIronKing34GridIronKing34forum_veteran
Oct 6, 2010, 03:33 PM

"BicketyBam wrote:

Sounds like another QB I know whose name rhymes with Manchez.

He makes a good post and you just start smack talk?

Roman529Roman529New Member
Oct 6, 2010, 03:33 PM

The first two picks Henne threw completely changed the game. I really think if he doesn't throw them, we score 7 or 14 points and probably have a 20-6 halftime lead. Maybe the 2nd half disaster would never have occured because of this??? The third pick wasn't Henne's fault as Marshall stopped his route. I just would like to see him making smarter throws....he threw some nice passes to Bess, but he also short hopped a pass to a wide open receiver, and then threw some way too hard and off the mark. Hopefully he will come out with a little chip on his shoulder against the Packers and play better.

RoninFin4RoninFin4subscriber
Oct 6, 2010, 03:35 PM

Is Henne's job in jeopardy. In a word: No!

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MerauderMerauderNew Member
Oct 6, 2010, 03:37 PM

"Roman529 wrote:

The first two picks Henne threw completely changed the game. I really think if he doesn't throw them, we score 7 or 14 points and probably have a 20-6 halftime lead. Maybe the 2nd half disaster would never have occured because of this??? The third pick wasn't Henne's fault as Marshall stopped his route. I just would like to see him making smarter throws....he threw some nice passes to Bess, but he also short hopped a pass to a wide open receiver, and then threw some way too hard and off the mark. Hopefully he will come out with a little chip on his shoulder against the Packers and play better.

Both times he threw the first two I thought that passing was a bad call. Both times 1st and 10 near redzone, second time at the 30 with under 3 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter. The first one, the majority of the previous calls leading up to that 1st down were passes. Henne is obviously still maturing. You would think that Henning understands this and would take some pressure off him, and not expect him to complete 10 straight passes without making a mistake.

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Oct 6, 2010, 03:39 PM

According to Sparano today, No!

Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Oct 6, 2010, 03:40 PM

"Roman529 wrote:

The first two picks Henne threw completely changed the game. I really think if he doesn't throw them, we score 7 or 14 points and probably have a 20-6 halftime lead. Maybe the 2nd half disaster would never have occured because of this??? The third pick wasn't Henne's fault as Marshall stopped his route. I just would like to see him making smarter throws....he threw some nice passes to Bess, but he also short hopped a pass to a wide open receiver, and then threw some way too hard and off the mark. Hopefully he will come out with a little chip on his shoulder against the Packers and play better.

That doesn't make sense to me.

They ran back the opening kick at halftime. Then the score would have 20-14. I doubt, we would have a different gameplan at 20-14 then we would have at 7-13. We march the ball down the field, drive stalls we punt. We would have punted there regardless if the score was 20-14. Blocked and returned for a go ahead TD.

This was special teams fault all the way.

adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 6, 2010, 03:51 PM

"Roman529 wrote:

The first two picks Henne threw completely changed the game. I really think if he doesn't throw them, we score 7 or 14 points and probably have a 20-6 halftime lead. Maybe the 2nd half disaster would never have occured because of this??? The third pick wasn't Henne's fault as Marshall stopped his route. I just would like to see him making smarter throws....he threw some nice passes to Bess, but he also short hopped a pass to a wide open receiver, and then threw some way too hard and off the mark. Hopefully he will come out with a little chip on his shoulder against the Packers and play better.

no doubt he played poorly with those picks. it wont be the last game like that either. the key is that those types of games become fewer and fewer as he grows and gets smarter. he's getting better, you can see it in how he's throwing. we just need patience. cant have the miami media start bashing him and creating controversy



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BlameItOnTheHenneBlameItOnTheHenneforum_veteran
Oct 6, 2010, 03:58 PM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

He makes a good post and you just start smack talk?

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AbideN703AbideN703New Member
Oct 6, 2010, 04:01 PM

"BicketyBam wrote:

Sounds like another QB I know whose name rhymes with Manchez.

Donald Qranchez!

jdang307jdang307subscriber
Oct 6, 2010, 04:05 PM

"BicketyBam wrote:

Sounds like another QB I know whose name rhymes with Manchez.

Mark sanchez has been outplaying Henne since week 15 of last year, including 3 playoff games. He is ahead of Henne right now

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Oct 6, 2010, 04:14 PM

Unless we have the option of starting Sanchez, I'm not sure how he is relevant to this discussion.

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Roman529Roman529New Member
Oct 6, 2010, 04:14 PM

"Finascious D wrote:

That doesn't make sense to me.

They ran back the opening kick at halftime. Then the score would have 20-14. I doubt, we would have a different gameplan at 20-14 then we would have at 7-13. We march the ball down the field, drive stalls we punt. We would have punted there regardless if the score was 20-14. Blocked and returned for a go ahead TD.

This was special teams fault all the way.

Here is what I mean. Lets say Henne doesn't throw those two picks. We probably would have scored 10 to 14 more points? We would have had a nice cushion at halftime, instead of being up by one.

I taped the game and watched the game a couple more times. If you watched the first half, WE stopped ourselves. That's why I got so mad when we were moving the ball, and then on a critical third down we went to the Wildcat and stopped ourselves at the Pat's 35. No field goal and we punt the ball. We would have come out in the 2nd half fired up, instead the Pats run back the opening kick and Miami's curls into the fetal position and waives the white flag. :angry:

JMHPhinJMHPhinsubscriber
Oct 6, 2010, 04:23 PM

"Roman529 wrote:

The first two picks Henne threw completely changed the game. I really think if he doesn't throw them, we score 7 or 14 points and probably have a 20-6 halftime lead. Maybe the 2nd half disaster would never have occured because of this??? The third pick wasn't Henne's fault as Marshall stopped his route. I just would like to see him making smarter throws....he threw some nice passes to Bess, but he also short hopped a pass to a wide open receiver, and then threw some way too hard and off the mark. Hopefully he will come out with a little chip on his shoulder against the Packers and play better.

too easy. fact is they got 6 total points out of those ints. lets say we get 2 more tds that adds 14 making 28. then say as a result the pick 6 doesnt happen, they still have 34, if u go further n assume pats only got 2 fgs due to ints, then that makes it tied @ 28.

problem is it is based on huge assumptions. no guarentees or likelihood we get 2 tds n pats get 0 points w/o the 2 ints.

young qbs make mistakes, to expect not is nnaive imo. sanchez faced one d playing tough, sorry our d is good but still gelling n maturing, db made bunch mistakes. Snatchez is good n playing well but hhasnt been fully tested yet. blt game they were ready to sh*t can him

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DolfanJakeDolfanJakeNew Member
Oct 6, 2010, 04:24 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

he's shown enough that he has to get three years of starting time. if he still has the inconsistencies and flaws next year we can start discussing benching him but for now his progress has been great. still inconsistent but that should improve

next year ? you mean 2012, there is no next year (at least not right now).

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Fin DFin Dforum_veteran
Oct 6, 2010, 04:27 PM

"Roman529 wrote:

Here is what I mean. Lets say Henne doesn't throw those two picks. We probably would have scored 10 to 14 more points? We would have had a nice cushion at halftime, instead of being up by one.

I taped the game and watched the game a couple more times. If you watched the first half, WE stopped ourselves. That's why I got so mad when we were moving the ball, and then on a critical third down we went to the Wildcat and stopped ourselves at the Pat's 35. No field goal and we punt the ball. We would have come out in the 2nd half fired up, instead the Pats run back the opening kick and Miami's curls into the fetal position and waives the white flag. :angry:

I understand what you're saying, I just don't think its accurate.

Those two picks being TDs instead only changes the score and not the final result. After the Pats ran back the kickoff, we still marched down the field for a TD. It was the Special Teams that broke our back and took the wind out of our sails. Even with the picks, our defense held the Pats to just 2 FGs in the half the picks happened in, then only allowed one TD in the second.

TEtexasPHINSfanNew Member
Oct 6, 2010, 05:25 PM

"Is Chad Henne's job in trouble?"

If Chad Henne was on special teams, then yes.

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SESeanPsubscriber
Oct 6, 2010, 05:41 PM

"DolfanJake wrote:

next year ? you mean 2012, there is no next year (at least not right now).

I'm concerned, but I am fairly confident we will have a next year. Maybe not an 16 game next year, but the players can't miss out on an entire year of their livelihood, and they've got a lot of bargaining chips to play around with last I read.

They are no where close to a deal, but there are places that both sides can work with that can make a deal possible.

High DefinitionHigh DefinitionNew Member
Oct 6, 2010, 06:22 PM

I still don't see how people blame Brandon Marshall for the third OT. It was pretty obvious to me that Marshall's intention was to fake the linebacker by coming across the slant left, then cut right to get separation with all green in front of him, and that's exactly what he did. Henne forced it in there too early just like he forced the first INT. Had he waited (and he had all the time in the world) and hit Marshall in stride.... there's no telling what happens after the catch. New England's DB's were all down the field.

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