Merged:Marino: "Wildcat would be difficult for me"

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JimTossJimTossforum_veteranOP
Oct 19, 2009, 09:30 PM

"It would be difficult for me because, I think, there's a certain thing about rhythm," Marino told WQAM (560-AM). "But, at the same time, if you're running off seven or eight yards a clip you can understand it. But me, personally, I don't think I can handle coming on and off the field and breaking up your rhythm as far as throwing the football."

Marino also said the word "gimmick" should be removed from any mention of the Dolphins' use of the Wildcat -- which has a tailback taking a direct snap and features the quarterback either leaving the field or lining up as a receiver -- because it's been a staple of the team's offense.

"It's not a gimmick for the Dolphins," Marino said. "It's something they've been working on for two years. It's not a gimmick. It's what they do. The thing about it is they're getting two of their best players on the field at the same time in Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams. That's just being smart."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-dan-marino-dolphins-wildcat-101909,0,4903786.story

Interesting to hear what one of the greatest QB's ever would think about the situation. But he definitely "gets" it.

I don't really think you need to run a wildcat when your most dangerous player on the field is your QB. The wildcat is all about creating mismatches and putting the ball in your best players' hands.

Either way interesting read. Not too much analysis needed.

Finatic8480Finatic8480New Member
Oct 19, 2009, 09:31 PM

Marino would have had a problem with the Wildcat

But it's somewhat significant when the quarterback in question was the best ever for a team that has mastered the single-wing attack.

"It would be difficult for me because, I think, there's a certain thing about rhythm," Marino told our friends at WQAM in Miami. "But, at the same time, if you're running off seven or eight yards a clip you can understand it. But me, personally, I don't think I can handle coming on and off the field and breaking up your rhythm as far as throwing the football."

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

You know I love Danny boy, but what is it with eveyone dissing the WCat. I don't get it is the heart of our offense, It has brought back the Fins from the trenches of the NFL and it has won us big games. Yet, someone who has meant so much to this organization has a problem with it. :no:

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JimTossJimTossforum_veteran
Oct 19, 2009, 09:33 PM

HAHA FIN! I BEAT YOU TO IT BY 1 MINUTE!

Got the thread in first.

You must now hang your head in shame.

NolePhinNolePhinNew Member
Oct 19, 2009, 09:34 PM

I think if you have a QB like Dan Marino you don't need the WC. Im not sure he was dissing the WC, I think he was just saying that he wouldn't like it if he was playing, as it messed with his style of play.

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djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 19, 2009, 09:48 PM

I love Danny, but hes old school, and were not.

I dont care who the qb is, ronnie brown is to be respected in this running formation, by any of em..

Danny never had a running game, so he doesnt know any better...

SilverphinSilverphinforum_veteran
Oct 19, 2009, 09:51 PM

"Finatic8480 wrote:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx

You know I love Danny boy, but what is it with eveyone dissing the WCat. I don't get it is the heart of our offense, It has brought back the Fins from the trenches of the NFL and it has won us big games. Yet, someone who has meant so much to this organization has a problem with it. :no:

Read the article from Sun-Sentinel.

He wasn't dissing the Wildcat. Later, in that same SS article, he says that thw Wildcat shouldn't be called a gimmick. He's just saying that he probably couldn't run it.

Oct 19, 2009, 09:56 PM

He's not dissing the Wildcat, he just feels that it would disrupt his rhythm.

Even if he was, I think he has free reign to say whatever the hell he wants about this team.

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SICKSICKforum_veteran
Oct 19, 2009, 10:18 PM

i dont understand the "upset rythm" thing.......whats the difference between handing off the football and watching the running back run, or standing on the sideline or split wide as a WR and watch the running back run the ball

when he says "disrupts rythm throwing the ball" its just a few plays where he doesnt throw anyways...whether handing off traditionally or letting some wildcat plays be ran.....dont understand the issue.

Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Oct 19, 2009, 10:39 PM

Handing off was difficult for Marino

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TJamesW_PhinfanTJamesW_PhinfanNew Member
Oct 19, 2009, 10:41 PM

If he is handing off he is still the guy at center doing the snap count maintaining and controlling the rythm or pace of the drive.

He isn't dissing it at all he is simply saying it would be difficult for him to run. He goes on to say it isn't a gimmick that it is smart to get Ronnie and Ricky on the field at the same time.

To each their own guys the wildcat isn't for everyone and I think if Dan Marino says it would effect his rythm, not others but his then he would know better than any of us here.

Clark KentClark Kentforum_veteran
Oct 19, 2009, 11:11 PM

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Handing off was difficult for Marino

Exactly... I love that story of Don Shula telling him to pay attention during the running game discussions at offensive meetings and Marino saying "yeah, yeah, we'll get to that after I throw the ball 50 times."

dolfan7171dolfan7171New Member
Oct 19, 2009, 11:55 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

I love Danny, but hes old school, and were not.

I dont care who the qb is, ronnie brown is to be respected in this running formation, by any of em..

Danny never had a running game, so he doesnt know any better...

Yup that's true...he didn't know what his teams could have done if he had a running game that we have now. I wonder would his ego get in the way???

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jdang307jdang307subscriber
Oct 20, 2009, 01:12 AM

"djphinfan wrote:

I love Danny, but hes old school, and were not.

I dont care who the qb is, ronnie brown is to be respected in this running formation, by any of em..

Danny never had a running game, so he doesnt know any better...

What? You disrespect the legacy of karim Abdul jabbar. Oh wait, it's abdul-karim a-jabbar (after the Laker Karim sued him).

in his rookie season over 1,000 yards and 11 TDS! 1997 he had 900 yards and 15 TDs! That's elite almost ... :pointlol: granted his ypc SUCKED!

Dolphin1184Dolphin1184New Member
Oct 20, 2009, 01:20 AM

"jdang307 wrote:

What? You disrespect the legacy of karim Abdul jabbar. Oh wait, it's abdul-karim a-jabbar (after the Laker Karim sued him).

in his rookie season over 1,000 yards and 11 TDS! 1997 he had 900 yards and 15 TDs! That's elite almost ... :pointlol: granted his ypc SUCKED!

You cant forget the HoFers John Avery and J.J. Johnson. And our resident jailboy Cecil Collins.
God to think what Jimmy Johnson did to set back this franchise so many years (including bringing Wannsteadt).

Huffer13Huffer13New Member
Oct 20, 2009, 02:20 AM

I love Marino and loved watching him play....... but it was pounding opponents with two good running backs and a balanced passing attack that won this franchise super bowls and delivered the perfect season. I like to think with the emergence of Henne we can again become a team that can beat you by running or passing. Of course great defense also helps...... we still have some work to do in that department.

the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Oct 20, 2009, 07:17 AM

all about the talent we have now
Marino is irrelevant

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The G ManThe G Manforum_veteran
Oct 20, 2009, 07:51 AM

"Finatic8480 wrote:

You know I love Danny boy, but what is it with eveyone dissing the WCat.

He wasn't dissing it at all. He was just saying it would be hard for him to come off the field. That's the competitor in him as much as anything else.

It's also an excellent point in terms of the rhythm he mentions. I've thought the same could be true for Henne. In other words, and this has happened already...right after a big gain pass play, Henne comes out and they run the WC. Timing is important in everything. I just wonder sometimes about the timing of pulling Henne, because I think Danny is right...you gotta give your QB a chance to get into the rhythym of things.

"djphinfan wrote:

I love Danny, but hes old school, and were not.

I am...:wink2:

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

Handing off was difficult for Marino

LOL...so true, so true.

"the 23rd wrote:

Marino is irrelevant

Blasphemy!

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ZodZodNew Member
Oct 20, 2009, 08:15 AM

"Finatic8480 wrote:

Yet, someone who has meant so much to this organization has a problem with it. :no:

Dan does not have a problem with the Wildcat. Dan has a problem with running the ball when he is on the field. Jimmy Johnson stripped Dan of the right to audible at one point and Dan still audibled to the pass.

What was JJ going to do about it? Cut him? :shifty:

ZodZodNew Member
Oct 20, 2009, 08:19 AM

"djphinfan wrote:

I love Danny, but hes old school, and were not.

Danny never had a running game, so he doesnt know any better...

Wrong and wrong.....

Danny was the beginning of the NEW school. I do not think Dan Marino ever wanted a running game. Dan wanted a defense. A defense the likes that Don Shula was never able to field without Bill Arnsparger on his staff.

OphineratedOphineratedforum_veteran
Oct 20, 2009, 08:42 AM

"The G Man wrote:

Blasphemy!

+1 :up:

opfinisticopfinisticNew Member
Oct 20, 2009, 10:08 AM

Are we actually turning on Dan because he expressed an honest opinion regarding his feelings on running the Wildcat? :pity: Nowhere did he diss it, and I can understand his comments on 'disrupting his rhythm' it makes sense. Imagine driving down the field, then sitting out a couple of plays, then hopping back in, your adrenaline will drop, your muscles will cool down and your Super Powers will regress slightly. Dan is never irrelevant, he created more Dolphin Fans than you can count.

firedanfiredanforum_veteran
Oct 20, 2009, 10:13 AM

It would never work with Marino.Sorta like Peyton Manning,no need for those formations when you have the best passers in the game.

RunRickyRunRunRickyRunNew Member
Oct 20, 2009, 10:17 AM

Can you imagine Dan Marino being the Ronnie Brown Component of the Wildcat in 1983---that would have been fun to see.

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Oct 20, 2009, 10:49 AM

Daaaaaanny booooooooy.

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HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Oct 20, 2009, 10:53 AM

Of course it would be difficult for Marino. If the Wildcat offense is a 44 Magnum, then Marino was a Missle Launcher.

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