Miami Dolphins Might Want To ‘Overpay’ For Ryan Tannehill

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OnehondoOnehondosubscriberOP
Apr 8, 2012, 09:25 PM

Many draft Speculators, Scouts and Charley Casserly believe Miami would be overpaying for Tannehill at pick #8 but the question would be, is Miami willing to take the risk?

Here is the article in the Miami Herald:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/08/2736801_p2/miami-dolphins-might-want-to-overpay.html

Also here is Brian Billick and Taylor Jones from Fox Sports breaking down the top Quarterbacks in the 2012 draft.
They have a reserved opinion or doubts about Ryan Tannehill. Billick says Tannehill Scares him.

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/brian-billick-nfl-draft-top-qb-s/12l0sdfg?from=

bakedmattbakedmattNew Member
Apr 8, 2012, 10:04 PM

Billick says Tannehill Scares him.

Billick knows something about over-drafting a QB, who's stock soared late.

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the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Apr 8, 2012, 10:19 PM

Tannehill @ 8:dolphin:

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OnehondoOnehondosubscriber
Apr 8, 2012, 10:21 PM

This is going to be a real interesting draft! I believe if Philbin and staff really believe Tannehill could be good quarterback and a potential Franchise Quarterback then Ireland should draft him at #8. I am not so sure I believe they should trade up to get him. There are too many needs for the Dolphins to spend draft picks to trade up unless the choice is ready to start day one and unfortunately I don't think Tannehill is ready to do that.

Killer BeesKiller Beesforum_veteran
Apr 8, 2012, 10:33 PM

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Its not overpaying to get a guy I think will be a lot like Aaron Rodgers.

That's a pretty bold statement.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Apr 8, 2012, 10:51 PM

That "breakdown" by Brian Billick and Taylor Jones was painful to watch.

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bakedmattbakedmattNew Member
Apr 8, 2012, 11:21 PM

"ckparrothead wrote:

That "breakdown" by Brian Billick and Taylor Jones was painful to watch.

Really in-depth, huh? :001_rolleyes:

@matthewfpepin

Apr 8, 2012, 11:35 PM

"bakedmatt wrote:

Billick knows something about over-drafting a QB, who's stock soared late.

Billick wasnt in charge of the draft.
Although I wouldn't want Billick's opinion on anything besides how to look like a thinner Jim Belushi.

MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Apr 9, 2012, 12:34 AM

Apropos of nothing, man Kirk Cousins is bad at football.

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ANAnonymoussubscriber
Apr 9, 2012, 12:43 AM

"Aqua4Ever04 wrote:

Its not overpaying to get a guy I think will be a lot like Aaron Rodgers.

Really? I don't know, I just don't see it. Andrew Luck reminds me of Rodgers, but I don't see that in Tannehill.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Apr 9, 2012, 12:45 AM

"Anonymous wrote:

Really? I don't know, I just don't see it. Andrew Luck reminds me of Rodgers, but I don't see that in Tannehill.

Aaron Rodgers right now, or Aaron Rodgers coming out of Cal?

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branbranNew Member
Apr 9, 2012, 12:59 AM

aaron rodgers coming out of cal was just as raw as tannehill IMO. rodgers got to sit and watch the game for years behind favre while the packers developed him, changing many things along the way. looking at tannehill and his skills the guy has huge upside IMO but he needs time to develope

byroan;2178644 wrote:

Tannehill could have had more time had Clabo just fell down and forced Mario to step over him.

MonstBlitzMonstBlitzforum_veteran
Apr 9, 2012, 01:02 AM

No such thing as overpaying for franchise QB potential. I just hope the Browns don't plan on "overpaying" before we get a chance.

ANAnonymoussubscriber
Apr 9, 2012, 01:08 AM

"ckparrothead wrote:

Aaron Rodgers right now, or Aaron Rodgers coming out of Cal?

Aaron Rodgers today.

ToddsPhinsToddsPhinsNew Member
Apr 9, 2012, 02:06 AM

"Anonymous wrote:

Really? I don't know, I just don't see it. Andrew Luck reminds me of Rodgers, but I don't see that in Tannehill.

Tannehill reminds me more of a raw Rodgers. Luck doesn't remind me of anyone really. Luck just seems like Luck.

firedanfiredanforum_veteran
Apr 9, 2012, 07:46 AM

After luck and RG3 are there any QBs worth investing a first round pick on?They might want to look at other positions and go for a QB next year.Alot of fans won't stand for it but I wouldn't take one just because it's a big need and the guy they want is not there.

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Apr 9, 2012, 08:13 AM

"MonstBlitz wrote:

No such thing as overpaying for franchise QB potential. I just hope the Browns don't plan on "overpaying" before we get a chance.

Perhaps...but there is certainly the pain and anguish of overpaying for a potential franchise QB when he doesn't turn out to be that guy...look at how much consternation Chad Henne has brought to this franchise and it's fanbase. Sure, he wasn't considered a franchise guy coming out, but he was expected to be one once he was on the roster, particularly and moreso with the fanbase than the staff. Do you overpay and it not work out for you or try again in the next draft/FA period ?? I've been saying this about Tannehill since the beginning, that maybe he's the real deal and maybe not...does Ireland get a pass from the fanbase if he chooses Tannehill at 8 and he doesn't work out ?? Probably not...

Ohio FanaticOhio Fanaticsubscriber
Apr 9, 2012, 08:19 AM

You can't win the lottery if you don't play. Tannehill will drop to #8, then select him.
If he doesn't pan out, it is painful, but not as bad as if you traded multiple picks to get him.

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gunn34gunn34New Member
Apr 9, 2012, 08:27 AM

I wouldn't be opposed to select him if he dropped. I def don't want to trade up to get anyone.

The G ManThe G Manforum_veteran
Apr 9, 2012, 08:56 AM

No way I trade up to get Tannehill. But, if he's there at #8, and you think he's got the potential to be top-caliber QB, then yeah...pull the trigger. If not, or he's gone, there are plenty of other holes to plug. Draft a developmental guy later on and roll with Moore/Garrard for '12.

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Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Apr 9, 2012, 09:10 AM

Aaron Rodgers comparison? Alrighty...hey if we get him I'll be hoping he is every bit of an Aaron Rodgers. But let's be honest with ourselves, how many QBs were strong armed and mobile who turned out to be busts? Rodgers had talent and was developed very well....that has a lot to do with his success, a lot more than just having the physical attributes.

BulldogBulldogNew Member
Apr 9, 2012, 09:13 AM

It's been said over and over...If this coaching staff thinks Tannehill is the guy...get him.

However, I'm just not seeing the Rodgers in Tannehill. Saying that the 3rd best QB prospect coming out of college is comparable to Rodgers is wishful thinking, IMO. Rodgers is the best QB in the league right now.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Apr 9, 2012, 09:52 AM

"Fin-Omenal wrote:

Aaron Rodgers comparison? Alrighty...hey if we get him I'll be hoping he is every bit of an Aaron Rodgers. But let's be honest with ourselves, how many QBs were strong armed and mobile who turned out to be busts? Rodgers had talent and was developed very well....that has a lot to do with his success, a lot more than just having the physical attributes.

Actually there are a number of reasons people resort to the Aaron Rodgers comparison.

Rodgers consistently hurt defenses with his legs in college. Both years he more than canceled out his sack yardage with rushing yardage. I believe he ended up with something like 500 rushing yards in the 2 years with 8 rushing touchdowns. Both throw the ball very well and uncommonly accurate while on the move. Just recently I heard one draftnik talking about the difference in Tannehill between 2010 and 2011, in 2011 he clearly tried harder to become a system guy instead of going out there and winging it like he did when he went 5-1 in 2010. Rodgers' career at Cal went remarkably similar, from when he played a little more fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants football in 2003, to playing more within the confines of the Tedford system in 2004. You have a criticism out there about Tannehill's inability to consistently throw with anticipation. In 2008, Merrill Hoge brought up that when Rodgers was coming out, he felt like he was a guy that had to see it in order to throw it, didn't throw with anticipation. Tannehill only has about 1.5 seasons' worth of starts under his belt, but Rodgers only had 2 seasons at Cal, post-junior college. Both players are guys that could clearly throw the deep ball with plenty of pace and good spin, and I think plenty of accuracy, but neither had a lot of tape of them completing a whole lot of those deeper passes.

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BulldogBulldogNew Member
Apr 9, 2012, 10:10 AM

"ckparrothead wrote:

Actually there are a number of reasons people resort to the Aaron Rodgers comparison.

Rodgers consistently hurt defenses with his legs in college. Both years he more than canceled out his sack yardage with rushing yardage. I believe he ended up with something like 500 rushing yards in the 2 years with 8 rushing touchdowns. Both throw the ball very well and uncommonly accurate while on the move. Just recently I heard one draftnik talking about the difference in Tannehill between 2010 and 2011, in 2011 he clearly tried harder to become a system guy instead of going out there and winging it like he did when he went 5-1 in 2010. Rodgers' career at Cal went remarkably similar, from when he played a little more fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants football in 2003, to playing more within the confines of the Tedford system in 2004. You have a criticism out there about Tannehill's inability to consistently throw with anticipation. In 2008, Merrill Hoge brought up that when Rodgers was coming out, he felt like he was a guy that had to see it in order to throw it, didn't throw with anticipation. Tannehill only has about 1.5 seasons' worth of starts under his belt, but Rodgers only had 2 seasons at Cal, post-junior college. Both players are guys that could clearly throw the deep ball with plenty of pace and good spin, and I think plenty of accuracy, but neither had a lot of tape of them completing a whole lot of those deeper passes.

I'm betting that if you wanted to you could find similarities between all college QB's and all NFL QB's. All have 2 arms, and 2 legs. All of them throw a football.

Comparing Rodgers today, (like the one poster did) to Tannehill today, IMO, is wishful thinking. Not because I'm positive Tannehill won't or can't become Rodgers-like one day, but because, and as you wrote here, there is insufficient tape on Tannehill and he's yet to play a down in the NFL. Tebow consistently hurt defenses with his legs in college. I'm sure he also canceled out his sack yardage with rushing yardage. Is he also comparable to Rodgers?

ASASUFinFanforum_veteran
Apr 9, 2012, 10:35 AM

"Bulldog wrote:

I'm betting that if you wanted to you could find similarities between all college QB's and all NFL QB's. All have 2 arms, and 2 legs. All of them throw a football.

Comparing Rodgers today, (like the one poster did) to Tannehill today, IMO, is wishful thinking. Not because I'm positive Tannehill won't or can't become Rodgers-like one day, but because, and as you wrote here, there is insufficient tape on Tannehill and he's yet to play a down in the NFL. Tebow consistently hurt defenses with his legs in college. I'm sure he also canceled out his sack yardage with rushing yardage. Is he also comparable to Rodgers?

No. Because you're leaving out one huge attribute...his arm!

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