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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by TotoreMexico, Dec 16, 2008.
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You know, when we shipped Thomas and Taylor to the Boys and DC I was thinking, we'll I'll cheer for them once we're out of the playoffs. How ironic that both may be cheering us on instead!
I miss both JT and Thomas. They have the hearts of champions!
He can keep his cheers for others. HE CHOSE TO LEAVE THE DOLPHINS and he spurned us. I really wish that he would keep his mouth shut about our Dolphins.
I hope JT signs a one day contract at the end of his career and retires a Phin...same with Zach. Hope they both make the Hall of Fame as well.
JT will always be a Dolphin. That whole offseason saga was blown way out of proportion. He was the face of the Dolphins for an entire generation of young fans who grew up watching him. He has always been (and always will be) a class act.
I'd love to see him back in Miami playing on a contending Dolphins team in a year or two.
11 solid years, and yet in one moment of drama all of that is forgotten.
Time to take your 'I'm not bitter' pill.
Yes because at the greatest moment of need, after a 1-15 season, he then decided that he was more important that the team. He lost all he had gained because he became selfish. Had he worked with, instead of against Parcells I would feel differently. We should have gotten a bidding war, and a 1st out of his departure, but because of his taking the issue public he diminshed his trade value, and we were very lucky to have gotten a 2nd round pick.
He got a very big head while he was in Hollywood with DWTS and he became very selfish. Any of his acts of charity I take with a grain of salt.....many of them are done to promote his image, and many people here just eat it up.
actually I find that quite funny. But I am bitter, and as an Old Queen I am allowed that priviledge
Figured you'd get a chuckle. Wait till she pulls out the thermometer!
And no, I wouldn't vote for the guy.
Miss them both we could of been so much better with them.
I miss Zach.
If JT comes back to miami someday and plays even close to what he played like his last few years here ill be very happy. Ive always loved JT.
so he does charity work to promote his image? Maybe that's why he was Man of the Year? Dude, your hatred of the man just reached an all time low.
Depends on what she wants to do with it
JT has always been a great guy. He didn't spurn anybody.
Yes, because I finally saw through the guy. His veneer got very thin. He stated many times during his DWTS, and then during his fight with Parcells, that he has had "plans for a Hollywood career" for years. What better to make him look good, than to have a charity foundation ? Make himself "Man of the Year" ? Yes it will help out some kids, but more it makes his profile look better to those that can't see the real motives (IMO). It makes him more palatable for Hollywood and a career in show biz. They will not look at him as this "big tough football player", but will also see "he has a heart".
Please, I see through a lot of these athletes, many of which couldn't give a rats azz about poor kids, but they are looking out for the chance to market themselves and charities are the best way to do that. Its all goody-goody and feely-good, and makes a lot of people cry when they see the big tough rich football player (with cameramen in tote) at some charity event. Ask anyone that has been involved at any of the charity events many of these athletes and celebrities names are attached to, and the only time these guys are involved is for the few minutes that the cameras are there. All of the events are carefully controlled and only certain people ever get to interact with the celebrity/athlete.
Take the Thanksgiving giveaway the Dolphins do.....the cameras were there taking publicity pics, and the athletes were there for about 10 minutes, just long enough for the camera shots. Then miraculously all the players and coaches are gone. I give the Dolphins props for the giveaways, they went to some very needy people, but lets not lets be real, the players didn't do all that much. It made for nice 30 second clips on all the local evening news shows, and it makes for good pub for the Miami Dolphins.
When we see a player who has a story come out, not by a publicity agent, or by Miami Dolphins publicity dept that they gave there time anonymously I'll believe its for real.
Man I must have taken a really strong bitter pill today.....oh well its my time of the month
He absolutely did, he decided he needed to be traded, and he meticulously weaved a web that caught the Miami Dolphins in a corner and forced them to trade him.
He signed a contract to play for the Miami Dolphins. He didn't sign a contract to play for a team in the playoffs because he deserves to play in playoffs. He should have shut his piehole, and done what Parcells, Ireland and Sparano wanted him to do. If they wanted to ship his contract somewhere else that is their right. His contract said he was supposed to be at mandatory team functions, and he didn't comply. He made the situation worse by going public, and by holding his "press conference" to really say nothing at all. Although he didn't say anything much, it was the lasting impression that he was unhappy here that then diminished his trade value. That was selfish and disloyal.
I supported him up until that time. That showed me exactly where his true loyalty was and it wasn't to the team so many of you think he still loves.
Bill Parcells decided Zach Thomas, a true Dolphin through and through, no longer needed to be one. Parcells should be scorned as well.
IT works both ways and is still a business. He said he'll play if traded, he'll play if not. Nothing wrong with that. You have every right to still be bitter, but most of us feel, whatever, that's the NFL life.
Remember, there are other Dolphins who have done the same.
Dan Marino gave the dolphins a list of teams he would like to be traded to.
Why do you care? Both sides are better off for how it ended. It's what we both wanted. I don't see the point of still being bitter about it like the guy ran over your dog.
Love 'em both. Always will.
However, neither belong in the ring of fame. They didn't win anything worthy of note during their tenure. That may not be their fault, but that's my opinion.
Thomas does IMO. Isn't he the all-time leader in tackles for a MLB?
Be nice if we still had Jason Taylor, we could use him...
Well considering that JJ was a complete douche to him....
And that Wanny told him flat out he wasn't wanted.
I am only bitter about the way he did it. He KNEW he wasn't going to play for the Dolphins this year, but he didn't work with Parcells, but fought with him publically. And I feel that cost the Dolphins a chance for a 1st round pick. Washington probably will end up no better than 8-8 and that pick could have been # 13-17 range. Instead it will be probably # 45-49.
I don't think that stat is relevant for the ring of honor. Why not put the leader in tackles for all 11 positions on defense in the ring of honor?
Nah, no way do they give us a 1st bro. As it is Tuna flat out played Washington for fools for the 2nd.
I dont think theres any doubt that the first part of this will happen... the hall of fame part... thats a whole other story possibly.
I caught so much heat for stating this on the D.D. , that Wanny didn't want Marino, I was told repeatedly that Marino left under his own terms even though Marvin Demoff stated Marino was basically thrown out.
This above statement was labeled as being "disruptive" or "baiting".
You guys are about 10 years late. This was in the 80s with Don Shula. held out of training camp, and missed a lot of it, and his agent turned in a list of teams they could trade Dan to.
Still love him? Still hate JT? What Dan did was worse.
Dan Marino was given the opportunity to play for the Minnesota Vikings, but decided to retire instead.
It's also a fact that almost all veteran players with the clout that Marino had almost always carry trade clauses in their contracts... often with details as to what teams they may be traded to. IMO, what Marino did, and what Taylor did, are two completely different things.
The way I see it, Dan Marino will always be a Miami Dolphin... and, as unpopular as it may be, Jason Taylor will always be a former Miami Dolphin to me. He had a choice, and he chose to 'dance with the stars'. Ridiculous.
JT wanted a trade when Cam came here but the Dolphins and the NFL wouldn't let him be traded,,,a large part was because he was the star they were selling to the people in London to come out and see the game there.
They told him to wait tell next year and he did.When nothing was getting done as far as a trade he told his friend Jason Cole to start making waves, and Jason was down with doing that, and did it well.
Any Dol~fan that's upset with him has every right to be.
Why do players have to have the up most dedication to the team and the team does not? BP got rid of zt, and yet I bet you are fine with BP.
Second of all you really have no clue as to what really lies in JTs heart besides the fact that you think you have seen some clues. Just as thoughs who have seen how he acts and says he really is dedicated to the dolphins take those actions as clues. I would say if you want to interpret actions and such the umpteen years jt was here and played would overwhelm any and all actions of the past few months.
Right. And the only reason that we were even to make that deal is because Washington lost their starting DE for the year in TC. People act like JT's value was so high to begin with. He was 34 years old and showing major signs of slowing down. lol There was hardly a bidding war. As a matter of fact, our FO were the only ones talking about only trading him for a 1st. And that was to try to get some of his value back up.
With ZT, I believe it was more of a show of class by our FO to cut him and give him the option to sign with whatever team he wanted. As opposed to shipping him off to some bum team who was willing to offer up a late round pick.
Well stated, we could have got something for him, but it wouldn't have been much and who knows where he would've ended up?
Right. I think we had too much respect for him to do that. Just how he had too much respect for us to go to NE.
Someone posted before reading to the end ... Look right above your post Larry. I'm talking about the 80's, not late 90's.