Lovely:pity:
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All kidding and conspiracy-mongering aside, I like that Ross seems to be a consensus-builder as an NFL owner, given his inexperience with the game in general.
It's whom he chooses to consult that makes me uneasy, even though I thought Mangini got a raw deal and wasn't nearly as bad as he was made out to be in New York. -
Where I think Armando is going with this is it's more sign that Stephen Ross is no longer holding Jeff Ireland in the confidence that he once did, and he chooses to speak with other people about the Dolphins' situation so as to be able to maintain objectivity and not have all his thoughts on the Dolphins be what Jeff Ireland wants him to think.
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I see a clean sweep of the organization at season's end, top to bottom. -
If I bash my head against the wall hard enough to make it seem like this regime is comepetent and if there is no one around me to prove me wrong, am I right?
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I don't want Mangini as our coach, but the guy is far from stupid. Nothing wrong w/ seeking his opinion.
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not only working to secure the #1 pick in the draft, but the Title of most embarrassing franchise in the NFL...nice!:pity:
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Two fresh reasons why I'm glad Steve Ross is seeking opinions outside the organization and therefore distancing himself from Jeff Ireland:
1. What if the Dolphins don't get the #1 overall pick, but a team that already has a young QB they've invested in does? Does anyone see Jeff Ireland brokering the deal for moving up? Does anyone see him paying the price? Hell no. He's like the fantasy owner that won't make any trade unless the trade is obviously in his favor by a wide margin. You know the type. I know, you're going to say that Ross could just mandate it...but if Jeff Ireland doesn't believe in what he's doing, he'll botch the negotiations. Either he'll severely pay more than was necessary (see the recent Carson Palmer deal) and chalk it up to it being Ross' fault because he mandated it, or by the time Jeff Ireland is through with the team they'll be convinced they should just go ahead and take Andrew Luck and trade whatever young guy they have.
2. You notice what kind of system Luck is in at Stanford? You notice who he throws to a lot? The tight ends. Harbaugh recruited a ton of tight ends to Stanford and Luck uses them in creative ways to attack defenses. You think that's going to happen here by default, with the likes of Jeron Mastrud and Charles "Whoopsie" Clay? You think Mr. Compulsive TE Underspender Jeff Ireland is going to provide Luck with some tight ends to throw to?Phins28, Mile High Fin, ssmiami and 2 others like this. -
to ck's point no#1. i think this was a contract year for jason campbell, barring an injury to palmer i don't think the raiders will bring him back. do you think if ireland stays he would go after campbell instead of drafting a qb with a probable top 5 pick?
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It's a bit hard for someone like Mangini, who wasn't the most successful coach, to go into Cleveland with a winner like Holmgren and really get his way. Mangini was able to secure some nice pieces though. And wasn't he the one who pulled the trigger on Peyton Hillis?
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On NFL32, Mort just asked Mangini about his conversations with Ross and Mangini said he hasn't spoken to Ross at all.
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Well actually he did speak to Ross........once at the beginning of the season to say Good Luck.......How did he know ? :wink2:
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WHY? Of all people?
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