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Miami narrows focus of #1 selection... (yahoo sports rumor)

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by brandon27, Mar 23, 2008.

  1. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Just something I stumbled across, didn't see on this board. Not much surprise to this but I hope it helps shift some of the focus back to football.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Miami-narrows-focus-of-No-1-selection;_ylt=AvNMxJltRbFCY_3xT3hiiRaL2bYF?urn=nfl,72900
     
  2. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    i think it will be either chris or jake long i will be happy with either
     
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  3. FinsPensFan

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    Me too, dude. I just can't make up my mind which one I like more.
     
  4. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    im with you. im torn. we really really need help with our pass rush, and we really really need help on the o-line. I think chris long is the safer pick, especially with the talk by alot of people saying that jake will end up being more of a RT than an LT. However, his leadership on that Michigan team with Chad Henne, is really something to take note of. With Zach gone, and JT's future still somewhat in question, leadership is something were lacking from our players too it seems.
     
  5. FinsPensFan

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    How much leadership can be expected from a rookie lineman?
     
  6. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    point taken. however its a character trait of a person. as a rookie it may not have much of an impact, however as a player gels with the team, and if he becomes a dominate player, it will eventually emerge in his personality and hold the team together and provide motivation etc, etc.
     
  7. Phins28

    Phins28 Up the Irons

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  8. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    i am also torn i cant really decide i really like chris long love the guys motor and his heart and the guy is a gamer

    i also like jake long just as much he would help anchor the oline with satele for a decade i am a florida gator fan and i saw what jake long did to the gator pass rush

    i will jump for joy with either one the only pick i would not get excited about would be matt ryan i just think he is vastly overrated
     
  9. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    the guy is a heck of a run blocker. no way mike hart would have had as many yards as he did without Jake. theres a reason why... i think it was about 85% of michigan's running plays always went to the left side.
     
  10. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Honestly I'm thinking its Jake Long.
     
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  11. Mongo

    Mongo Mongo like candy!

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    All I really want out of our first pick (or, well any of them) is that that they have heart and the drive to actually get better. You see too many crybaby lazy asses comming out of college in all sports now that don't wanna work for their paychecks or think they are just going to get by on their god given talents. what a bunch of overgrown two year olds I tell ya!

    I would prefer Chris long for that reason, but when your as lousy as our fins were this year and they need so much it just makes me happy that we might actually have someone compitent in charge of our selections now.
    I for one have had enough of the years of wasted drafts.
     
  12. djphinfan

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    am i the only one who questions the leadership on that Michigan team last year, talk about underperforming, with all the talent on that team, it displayed inconsistency, lack of motivation with a heavy dose of egoism.

    Especially that offense, Henne, Hart, Long, Manningham could'nt get it done. i'll take the other long.
     
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  13. KB21

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    That's a good point. However, I think you also have to take into account how they bounced back from the 0-2 record to start the year, and they thoroughly dominated a very good Florida team in the Capital One Bowl. Chad Henne fought through some injuries this year, but according to a lot of people I have talked to, there is a feeling that he really matured as a quarterback this year. He finished the season with the best game of his career against Florida.
     
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  14. bluegrassbubba

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    If you take a look at the depth chart, where is all the OL players going to come from, we only have 7 on the roster, don't we usually carry 10 on the active roster, going into camp that should be more, it will be interesting which way we go, but looking at the roster, I think Jake, at this point.
     
  15. KB21

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    Looking at the roster and thinking Miami will take Jake Long is logical. However, it also ignores Bill's history when it comes to the draft. He just doesn't take offensive linemen that high. Back when he ran the draft for the New York Jets in 1997, he had the opportunity to take Orlando Pace with the 1st overall pick. Instead of taking him, he traded out of that pick. The next pick came up, and Bill had the opportunity to take Walter Jones. He traded down once again, and ended up taking James Farrior. This was despite the fact that he had Marvin Jones, Mo Lewis, Dwayne Gordon, and had signed Pepper Johnson at linebacker.

    Jake Long may be a possibility, but as of right now, Parcells's history tells me it will be Chris Long.

    From 2003-2006, the Dallas Cowboys were needing a right tackle very badly, but they didn't draft one higher than the third round during that time.
     
  16. UCFinfan86

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    Im torn between the chris and jake long as well. While i love chris long i am a little worried that he will never be a star and end up just being a very good player. While there is nothing wrong with that, its not what you need from the #1. However if i had to pick, i think id choose Chris Long just because i think you can still get a quality first round OT with the #32
     
  17. Marino1384

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    I agree but if you are going to say look at Parcells history and who he likes to take, you can't forget that Sparano is a former offensive line coach and it is the most needed for us as if we were to line them up today we couldn't even put out an entire starting unit without playing guys out of position.
     
  18. sgtphin

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    Sure we could, take this line-up for example:

    Carey, Mormino, Satele, Smiley, Wilson. Alternates: Darilek, Ndukwe.

    Now, I'm not suggesting or implying that they would be good, just that we could start a full line with people in the right positions, barely.
     
  19. brandon27

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    i never thought i'd hear something like that from a buckeyes fan! :ffic:
     
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  20. phunwin

    phunwin Happy kids are Dolfans. Luxury Box

    I think you can rule out Ryan. I really don't think he's what the FO is looking for. More likely that they're just doing their due diligence (never rule out a potential franchise QB without giving him a good look), and perhaps trying to induce the Falcons, Chiefs or Ravens to move up for him.
     
  21. unluckyluciano

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    I don't know about that our dl was pretty horrible last year.
     
  22. Idahophin

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    I'm all for taking C Long #1, but I haven't gotten excited about J Long yet. Even though he is being ignored by our team I wouldn't mind taking Dorsey #1 if his knee is okay.
     
  23. alen1

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    Didn't Dorsey have some kind of fibula injury too or am I mixing him up with someone else?
     
  24. Marino1983

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    The Tuna is doing what any GM does with the first overall draft pick...
    Blowing smoke!

    I still cannot see him leaving C Long on the board.





    Marino1983
     
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  25. sgtphin

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    From what I've read, he doesn't have any problems with his knee, he supposedly has a stress fracture in one leg, tho. I believe it was reported that he had calcification of a stress fracture show up on an x-ray taken during his physical at the combine? Anyone else have more or newer info, please help us get all the right info.
     
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  26. KB21

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    I think the same thing is happening with Chad Henne. I believe they are doing their due diligence in evaluating the quarterbacks in an attempt to compare them to John Beck, but I'm not 100% convinced that they will take Chad Henne at this point. It certainly seems like he is a likely target though, but just like Matt Ryan, they may be checking him out just to make sure. Personally, if they don't believe he will be better than John Beck, they shouldn't use the pick on him.
     
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  28. Rick 1966

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    I wouldn't mind any of the three mentioned. Frankly, it's way past time we invested a first round pick in a QB, but I just don't know if Matt Ryan is worth the first pick. Still, if they go that route, I wouldn't get angry, but of the three, I think I'd like to see Chris Long. We really need help on the D line.
     
  29. emale2u1

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    And the pick is ... Jake Long

    The more I think about it, the more i believe the Jake Long is the player that is the highest demand by the top 5 teams. Why is that? It's because top OTs are so very hard to find and are 2nd IMO to QB in importance to a teams success.

    Yes, a dominant pass rusher is a extremely important position well ... might very well be #3 on the list, but if you look at the top players at the position in the league, they can be found later in the first round or even in the second. I am hoping we won't have a top 5 pick next year, so the top OT will not be an option. If we do have a top 5 pick next year, that doesn't spell good news for Beck, so we will most likely have to draft a QB. That means if we don't take Jake this year, we will have to wait 2 more years.

    If we are picking at 10 next year, there may still be a dominant 3/4 pass rusher available. And if not, we can take the top CB which will also be a need.
     

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