Michael Vick....the most overrated QB of all time

"phins3454 wrote:

Ive never liked Michael Vick and I have always thought he was overrated as hell.

Career completion percentage: a whopping 53.8%
career rating: a whopping 75.7

His best year was in 2002 when he threw for a whopping 16 Touchdowns and 8 INTS and less than 3,000 yards with 54.9 completion %

That same year he was selected to the pro bowl by the fans. How? and why? I dont know

wait....it gets better
in 2004 he threw a whopping 14 TD (holy ****....I know) and only 12 INTS! Not only that but he also threw an outstanding 2,313 yards that year and finished with a 78.1 rating....and he STILL MAKES THE PRO BOWL?

that same year Vick signed a contract worth $130 million! Why? and how? I dont know

Before the whole dog fighting thing...Michael Vick was one of the top 5 richest athletes

What has Michael Vick done? I think hes won 2 playoff games maybe...big deal Rex Grossman has won 2 or 3.

here is a list of QB who have better career rating that Michael Vick

1. Sage Rosenfels 79.5
2. Rob Johnson 83.6
3. Jay Fiedler 77.1
4. Brian Griese 82.7
5. Steve Beuerlein 80.3
6. Chris redman 79.5

Im just tired of everyone saying that Michael Vick is "So Special".... Ive heard that since he was draft 1st overall in 2001

and Im tired of people making excuses saying "he didnt have any good WR's"
Because in 2005 Michael Vick got hurt and missed a game.....matt schuab came in a threw for 495 yards and 4 TD's ...the WR's were catching the ball just fine

While I agree with you that he is over rated, you failed to mention his ground threat which adds a whole new dimension to his game. I still never was that impressed with him.

Overrated? Yes. Most overrated of all time? I'm not sure I'd go that far.

Overrated as a passer? Oh god yes. As a QB, no... because as the game, and its players have changed, so has the QB role... Some teams, and systems covet a QB who is mobile and can run, Vick could do just that... and he did. ALOT. I think you have to keep in mind that part of his game as a QB as well. Definitely over rated as a passer, yes.

I guess it depends on how you rate him. He was a below average passer with above average running ability. The result was a pretty decent winning %. Of course, QBs get too much credit when they win and when they lose. IMO a fair assessment is that overall Vick was an average QB. He was, however, more popular than most average QBs b/c he had above average highlights.

You forgot the only important thing in a QB of his style.

Winning %

"phins3454 wrote:

His best year was in 2002 when he threw for a whopping 16 Touchdowns and 8 INTS and less than 3,000 yards with 54.9 completion %

You forgot to mention:
2939 Passing yards (61 yards less than 3000 big deal)
777 Rushing yards with 8 TD's
=3716 total yards

"phins3454 wrote:

in 2004 he threw a whopping 14 TD (holy ****....I know) and only 12 INTS! Not only that but he also threw an outstanding 2,313 yards that year and finished with a 78.1 rating....and he STILL MAKES THE PRO BOWL?

902 Rushing yards
More than the Dolphins Running backs combined in 2004

I'm not saying I like Vick, but he deserves more credit than "The most overrated QB of all time". His play style is just different He makes ALOT of plays on the ground. he has almost 4000 rushing yards AS A QB.

Ask yourself this, if your down by 5 with 2 minutes left, do you want dog killer back there?

"steveincolorado wrote:

Ask yourself this, if your down by 5 with 2 minutes left, do you want dog killer back there?

I think we should refer to him by his name and not call him "The Dog Killer".

Actually yes I would. Because he has that "IT" factor, and there are a lot of ways he could pick up a lot of yards in a hurry. Is he my #1 choice? Of course not.

"steveincolorado wrote:

Ask yourself this, if your down by 5 with 2 minutes left, do you want dog killer back there?

Because his off the field activities affect if he can get a TD or not? Your arguement holds no water :thumbdown:

"Alex44 wrote:

You forgot the only important thing in a QB of his style.

Winning %

So hes won a few regualr season games....big deal, so did jay Fiedler and so does jake Delhomme and Kyle Orton has won quite a few games as a starter.

IMO Vick was too cocky and he wanted to be the "one man show" and Football is a team sport....one man can only take you so far.

"Alex44 wrote:

I think we should refer to him by his name and not call him "The Dog Killer".

Actually yes I would. Because he has that "IT" factor, and there are a lot of ways he could pick up a lot of yards in a hurry. Is he my #1 choice? Of course not.

He's a POS dog killer, F-him

"steveincolorado wrote:

He's a POS dog killer, F-him

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