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Mike Pouncey doesn't think he needs a mental health eval & doesn't regret last year

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Kucha, May 27, 2014.

  1. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

    Mar 22, 2008
    Don't forget the amazingly ironic Nazi reference in a rant against political correctness.

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  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

    Nov 27, 2007
    You're getting caught up in the specifics (so is everyone else for that matter).

    The public choices he's making aren't smart from a professional level. When you were embroiled in 2 huge scandals (Bullygate & Free Hernandez), there's public record of your drug use, you were questioned in a gun running investigation and the line you're the leader of gave up 58 sacks....then its a sign of a lack of intelligence and a huge ego to not play humble to the media and avoid further controversy.

    Stupid people, with big egos tend to screw up pretty bad at some point (see: Incognito). Which way is Pouncey's arrow pointing: stupid and arrogant or smart and humble?
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  3. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    We need to find his replacement next year... great... another draft pick on a linemen... wish we could trade him to Cleveland for Mack...
  4. You guys should write a letter to philbin demanding he is cut immediately.

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  5. Kucha

    Kucha Season Ticket Holder

    Dec 21, 2007
    Oh, great. Now Hickey is talking about giving Pouncey a greater leadership role and that he and Albert are taking our two new rookie OL players "under their wing." An unremorseful guy with a history of bad judgment should not be a team leader, IMO.

    "Against this backdrop, Pouncey, a Pro Bowl selection last season, is being continually given more leadership and prominence on the Dolphins."

    "General manager Dennis Hickey has mentioned how Pouncey and Albert are taking rookie tackle Ja’Wan James and rookie guard Billy Turner under their wing."

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  6. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

    Nov 23, 2007

    As I have said before.Much ado about very little.Yes he lacks criteria but thats not really a requisite for a football player.No criminal activity has been proven.

    He is not going to be traded over this .He would be traded if he didnt fit the scheme or if he becomes a poor teammate or disses his coaching staff.That hasnt happened yet.
  7. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

    Jan 6, 2010
    No they exercised the 5th year option for next year....as well I would bust his balls and tag him in 2016....

    In that time I would deal him for the best available package.....but if they do the above essentially they dont need a replacement until 2017....
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  8. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

    Nov 29, 2007
    They might need a replacement for game 1 if he keeps jawing off at the NFL and the psych evaluation.

    Goodell has a history of suspending players who don't comply with the NFL's wishes.

    In any event if he turns up at the psych eval and says he is truly humble and sorry the psych will report that he's lying. If he goes in and says he isn't sorry then the psych eval says he hasn't learned anything which opens the door for discipline.

    Pouncey has just put himself into a good old fashioned catch-22 despite every possible warning sign and one that even with a thimbleful of intelligence he could have seen coming.
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  9. Deerless Dice

    Deerless Dice Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Pouncey is a more of a follower than a leader. Best Miami can do is hope that with Albert in the fold, it will help Pouncey out.
  10. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

    Dec 1, 2007
    Did nothing wrong? So grabbing "Player A" (whom they regularly accused of being gay and for all they knew, actually could have been) in the shower and restraining him while John Jerry simulated butt sex isn't wrong?

    Remind me not to shower with you. :)

    A refresher:
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  11. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

    Dec 7, 2007
    Get off my lawn.
    If they were to trade him, I could only hope it would be to San Fran
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  12. Eop05

    Eop05 Junior Member Club Member

    Dec 8, 2007
    Pretty sure he proved to be a bad teammate to the fellow younger Offensive Linemen.
  13. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

    Nov 22, 2007
    inching to 100k posts
    Exactly, meanwhile Aldon Smith plead no contest to a DUI and 3 felonies, Pouncey is at most guilty of being insensitive, which is actually a positive trait in a pro athlete
  14. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

    Nov 23, 2007
    Putting Incognito in a leadership position was like asking the fox to take care of the chickens .He was the negative leader and instigator and fear is one of their weapons .The other OL were the followers .Perhaps they even feared Cogs and were victims of his bullying too.
  15. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

    Nov 26, 2007
    Concord, MA

    yes, he was an immature butthole. But I never underestimate the negative influence someone like Cogs can have on a younger person. I personally have seen examples of people I've recruited over the years that when you remove the negative influence, they can grow up and be fully functional within your team. One specific example of a scientist that made my wife's life hell at a former company - his fellow employees didn't enjoy working with him. I met him and realized that his manager was such a prick that he had brought out the worst in this kid. My wife called me a f*#$in idiot for recruiting him, despite his talent level. I brought him to my company and he flourished and within months became the best leader on my team.

    I'm not saying Pouncey will improve and stop making this politically incorrect statements. But he's extremely talented and the negative force that is Cogs is gone. So there's a CHANCE that he could do well in an environment sans-Incognito and replaced with Brandon Albert. I'd much rather take that chance and keep the all-pro center than trade him away and go back to the garbage we had at center before.
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  16. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    Good leadership and good decisions start at the top and trickle down.

    So do bad ones.
  17. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    He's got a big ****ing mouth for a follower.
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  18. Kucha

    Kucha Season Ticket Holder

    Dec 21, 2007
    Thank you!
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  19. Kucha

    Kucha Season Ticket Holder

    Dec 21, 2007
    And don't forget the Japanese trainer incident(s).
  20. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Picked at 15 world class dumbass . Tactless and embarrassing .
  21. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

    Dec 10, 2007
    BTW, did anyone catch hernandez when he entered the courtroom yesterday? Did you see how hard he was "ice-grilling" someone in there? Probably the family members of one of his victims. So here you have someone shackled, in court with his future on the line yet he still finds time to "keep it hood."
  22. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Dec 3, 2007
    Typically the personality type that commits multiple murders. (Sociopath...not hood)
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  23. ASOT

    ASOT New Member

    Mar 29, 2013
    Coral Gables, FL
    This guy needs to be replaced as soon as they can. He just doesn't get it.
  24. DPlus47

    DPlus47 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Jul 14, 2008
    I don't think you can be desperate to trade him because I don't think anybody's going to trade anything for him. You let him play out his contract and don't sign him to another one. He becomes somebody else's problem then. If he's able to straighten up without Incognito's influence (that's something I'll acknowledge is possible no matter how unlikely I believe it to be), you sign him then.
  25. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

    Dec 8, 2007
    Well away from here
    Too bad Al Davis isn't still around. Just convince him Pouncey can run in 4.7's and he'd likely be all over it. Otherwise, I'd like to think the NFL has gotten smarter in recent years, though I may be wrong though.
  26. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

    Jan 14, 2008
    Alexandria, VA
    Thank goodness Jeff Ireland drafted us so many quality character guys to build around... :shifty:

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