Mike Wallace On The Trade Block!!!

To reiterate, I don't think Miami cares what it's going to cost. I also think certain receivers in this draft can get you that production in year 1. Heck, if you can get Keenan with any semblance of a deep game I think you're winning production-wise.

 

Thats the rub right there. If he does not live up to expectation it was a bad signing. It does not matter who it was to blame. In this case RT has shown he can throw the ball well and Wallace has shown he is a good WR. Chemistry between them is not what it should be. That IMO falls on the coaches.

If Hickey gets rid of Wallace its because he does not think the staff can figure out how to use him effectively. That is a strike against Philbin. At the very least it indicates that he is a ridgid thinker who is incapable of adapting to the talent he is given to work with. The exception to that being if somebody offered to give us more value for him than we expected to get from his play. That would change the situation to being a sound buisiness deal rather then just cutting your losses and trying to recooperate anything you can to salvage the loss from making a bad deal.

 

I get the win now mentality but there is a hard cap and trading Wallace and then using a pick to replace him uses up resources. We have cap room but its not infinite and there are more pressing holes to be filled.

 

Its not a strike against anyone but Wallace, IMO.

Coaches aren't magicians. Most coaches aren't these miracle workers that we tend to pretend they are.

 

There are some teams that could use Wallace, if I was Carolina I'd call and offer a 2nd round pick...
I don't think we are going to trade him because of his contract and the impact it would have for us but I could see the team moving him if we were offered enough and could take the cap hit. I don't think this is a real possibility though.

 

I would rethink my position if the first person to reply and express agreement was Darrelle Revis (the Jets fan not the corner).

 

Hard to throw deep to Wallace when the pass pro sucks. I don't understand the sudden amnesia on this issue.

 

I'm not talking specifically about a rookie story like Keenan Allen, I'm talking about Allen level production. I think there are some guys ready to give that in the draft, and I do think that increased Matthews usage + a rookie would exceed what we would have gotten from Wallace.

There is an idea floating around that Miami and Philly could potentially trade speedster for speedster. I am almost certain Miami would need to take on some of that guaranteed money. I think this could happen though. Wallace's cap hit comes in if he's traded before June 1. After the May draft, if the same sentiment persists, this could still happen IMO.

 

I remember when many on here thought Brandon Marshall was a ****ty WR and overpaid. Good Times.

 

Not a WR available at 19 that can come in and be as good as Mike Wallace.

 

However, if they plan on making a big move (with all the teams expressing a desire to trade down) and get the kid from A&M, well....next Megatron IMO.

 

How about Hartline?

 

He's not draft able.

 

Is there a WR who can be drafted and be better than Hartline?

 

"Keenan Allen is a first round pick in this draft..the stats against this kid make me laugh.."

 

he put up similar numbers in his first year with miami as he did in his last season with pittsburgh(outside of touchdowns)

 

The Steelers pass pro in 2010 was one of the worst in the league.

 

There was an exact quote from Wallace I can't find explicitly saying he wasn't going to work with Tannehill any more on the deep ball:
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...heat-notes-tannehill-wallace-wade-um-qbs.html

Wallace is gonna put in the work that is required of him in practice and nothing more.

 

It's not that rare:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=lONkf

 

Mike Wallace had the most deep targets of his career last year.

 

Absolutely.

 

link?

 

I posted it above

http://www.thephins.com/forums/show...ade-Block!!!&p=2316525&viewfull=1#post2316525

 

Drew is a Browns fan. He'd never snuggle up to Rex wearing a Jests shirt.

 

It's where Rt admits Wallace is open. That part must've been made up.

 

Why didn't that result in more big plays? Did he fight for balls in Pittsburgh just not here?

 

But they weren't perfect so he shouldn't be expected to catch any of them.

 

Yes, Mike Wallace has been way better in his career at making an effort to come down to the catch. It's what separated him from a lot of guys whom are simply fast. Like someone pointed out earlier, the guy had a 40 inch vertical, and he's hardly a 170 pound guy who can't try and box someone out.

 

I call bull**** and will believe it when I see Wallace in somebody else's uniform.

This would be like buying a brand new crate engine and selling it for pennies on the dollar after a few races because you didn't want to make the mount and chassis adjustments and play around with the tune so you could get the extra second you need to win the race.

 

Hard to throw deep to Wallace accurately when the pass pro sucks.

 

Unless it's for Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, yeah you get the point!

 

His quote was specifically regarding deep balls. Do you want your speedster running deep routes right before a game? That's silly. The disconnect between Wallace and Tannehill seems to be timing on go routes where Wallace is all out sprinting. Why would they run those routes right before a game? How many do you think he can run before getting tired? You also see Tannehill admitting the deep ball is not affected by not playing catch before the game. Why? Because you don't run all out sprints before the game more than a few times, if at all.

Tannehill even admits he needs to work on getting Wallace the ball deep.

 

*Checks author. Hilarity ensues.*

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...nehill-wallace-wade-um-qbs.html#storylink=cpy

Eagerly await your spin.

 

Did you even read that? I said a drafted WR could potentially give us Keenan Allen production which was partially QB driven. I said a rookie + Matthews in a larger role could exceed what we got from Wallace.

EDIT: From a production standpoint, going back to 2011, at least one drafted WR has exceeded Mike Wallace's numbers in their rookie year.

 

Would the people who think Wallace for DeSean Jackson makes sense please tell me how it makes sense?

To me, DJax is a similar player with a worse attitude and more injury issues. The deep ball problems seem to be there with Tannehill regardless of who the receiver is. Jackson may do a little better on short/intermediate routes, but he is almost never happy and he has had multiple concussions. Every year, like clockwork, he goes through contract drama.

Am I missing something?

 

Drafted at 19 or later? And has the vertical presence of Wallace?